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Topic: US Marine Defends Wall Street Protests
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Sat 10/29/11 08:33 AM



Let me explain by syllogy



It would appear the Deux's arguments are fallacious by choice, rather than as a consequence of ignorance.


The syllogy was correct with regard to logical flow... I was attempting to educate.

The arguments are not fallacious as they are at the core fairly truthful in that the left is more prone to violence and bigotry in their protests... a few of which I have been to. Right wing protests are fairly lame as there is no entertainment value attending them, they are not exciting like the leftist ones... no one is topless, no one is raging, no one is spewing irrationality that it is comedic, no fire bombings, they respect the cops enough that the cops are even intermingle with them freely so there are no altercations taking place meaning no one is getting their backsides kicked so there is no fight to watch for free, so I don't do the right wing protests; not much fun.

I do like checking out the left-wing protests. In fact, interviewed some of the protesters at the G8 summit and at the Petroleum conference. There is a definite core group of ideologues and a whole bunch of hangers on who just want to be cool and be a part of something. I can attest that the Chinese Consulate was involved distributing Maoist literature through Chinese organizations during the G8 summit. One idiot called himself a communist so I questioned him about an aspect of Marxist theory. After much hmm-ing and hawing he decided to bring in his "handler". I am guessing that the handler was a good communist because he was distributing little red books courtesy of the consulate. But our good communist friend seemed lost as well not knowing much regarding Marx's dialectic as pertaining to the theory of history. I guess Reagan was correct when he said "How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin." However, both idiots probably did not bother reading Marx and were merely third-handers. Communism seems just a fad for some impressionable duds who have not much to do otherwise. The arson, mayhem and carnage they leave behind in their wake is a form of entertainment for them, they seem to enjoy it - all I want to see a few of them get beat up and roughed by the cops; whack 'em and stack 'em. laugh rofl laugh Its hard to find good wholesome entertainment in a corporate city which has the highest rate of residents filing million $ RevCan forms per capita so for excitement we are relegated to counting on the clowns from the left to provide the comic relief.




A Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican"

Joe gets up at 6:00am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.

All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance, now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe’s employer pays these standards because Joe’s employer doesn’t want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he’ll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn’t think he should loose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

Its noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FDIC because some liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his life-time.

Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dads; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans. The house didn’t have electric until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification. (Those rural Republican’s would still be sitting in the dark)

He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to. After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home.

He turns on a radio talk show, the host’s keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn’t tell Joe that his beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day) Joe agrees, "We don’t need those big government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I’m a self made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have".

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/thom-hartmann-day-life-joe-middle-class-re

Bestinshow's photo
Sat 10/29/11 08:33 AM



Let me explain by syllogy



It would appear the Deux's arguments are fallacious by choice, rather than as a consequence of ignorance.


The syllogy was correct with regard to logical flow... I was attempting to educate.

The arguments are not fallacious as they are at the core fairly truthful in that the left is more prone to violence and bigotry in their protests... a few of which I have been to. Right wing protests are fairly lame as there is no entertainment value attending them, they are not exciting like the leftist ones... no one is topless, no one is raging, no one is spewing irrationality that it is comedic, no fire bombings, they respect the cops enough that the cops are even intermingle with them freely so there are no altercations taking place meaning no one is getting their backsides kicked so there is no fight to watch for free, so I don't do the right wing protests; not much fun.

I do like checking out the left-wing protests. In fact, interviewed some of the protesters at the G8 summit and at the Petroleum conference. There is a definite core group of ideologues and a whole bunch of hangers on who just want to be cool and be a part of something. I can attest that the Chinese Consulate was involved distributing Maoist literature through Chinese organizations during the G8 summit. One idiot called himself a communist so I questioned him about an aspect of Marxist theory. After much hmm-ing and hawing he decided to bring in his "handler". I am guessing that the handler was a good communist because he was distributing little red books courtesy of the consulate. But our good communist friend seemed lost as well not knowing much regarding Marx's dialectic as pertaining to the theory of history. I guess Reagan was correct when he said "How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin." However, both idiots probably did not bother reading Marx and were merely third-handers. Communism seems just a fad for some impressionable duds who have not much to do otherwise. The arson, mayhem and carnage they leave behind in their wake is a form of entertainment for them, they seem to enjoy it - all I want to see a few of them get beat up and roughed by the cops; whack 'em and stack 'em. laugh rofl laugh Its hard to find good wholesome entertainment in a corporate city which has the highest rate of residents filing million $ RevCan forms per capita so for excitement we are relegated to counting on the clowns from the left to provide the comic relief.




A Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican"

Joe gets up at 6:00am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.

All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance, now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe’s employer pays these standards because Joe’s employer doesn’t want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he’ll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn’t think he should loose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

Its noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FDIC because some liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his life-time.

Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dads; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans. The house didn’t have electric until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification. (Those rural Republican’s would still be sitting in the dark)

He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to. After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home.

He turns on a radio talk show, the host’s keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn’t tell Joe that his beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day) Joe agrees, "We don’t need those big government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I’m a self made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have".

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/thom-hartmann-day-life-joe-middle-class-re

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Sat 10/29/11 10:49 AM



You have no idea of what guild by association is ... just like the fact that you either not well informed about topic of conversation and also have been known exaggerate or minimize your claims as they fit your ideology.

Remember when you told an untruth about who authored a article you did a copy paste hack job on? Remember trying to weasel out when shown to the deception? Yeah I get it...

At least in my defense, I do make it a point to get under the left's skin because they actually believe that they should be the arbiters of what is right and what is wrong.

On the other hand, in my opinion Michelle Obama lacks class not because I disagree or er er er teleprompter-in-chief which her but because of the how she says and does things. On the other has Laura exhibited a lot of class with the way she spoke and carried herself, her poise. While I disagree with LBJ I thought his Ladybird carried herself with dignity. On the other had I think Nancy R. lacked class (but was not a cow) and Barbara B was a cow (with class).


Does it make you feel better about yourself to continuously insult people? It's certainly not helping you get your points across or to get people to take you seriously.

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Sat 10/29/11 11:24 AM
Reward Offered for the Identity of the Police Officer Who Shot Marine Vet Scott Olsen
Posted on October 29, 2011 by WashingtonsBlog
Reward for the Identity of the Police Officer Who Shot Marine Vet Scott Olsen
A generous friend is offering a $4,000 reward for the identify of the policeman who shot Scott Olsen.

The officer can likely be seen in publicly available videos (see this and this). But his badge and face are not visible.

Similarly, Anonymous is already leaking names and information of officers in the Oakland P.D., but it is still difficult for outsiders to identify the shooter.

As such, the tip will likely have to come from someone within the Oakland Police Department or the other law enforcement agencies present at the protest.

Do your force proud and stand up for liberty … identify the shooter.

Update: As this video shows, he might actually be with the San Francisco Sheriff instead of Oakland police:


http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/10/reward-offered-for-the-identity-of-the-police-officer-who-shot-marine-vet-scott-olsen.html

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