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Topic: Why Dems Should Vote RP
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Thu 10/20/11 08:26 PM


No woman should be asked to risk her life by taking a pregnancy to full term and having a baby. Not to mention having to raise it or having to find adoptive parents for it.

A woman who decides she does not want children will have a hard time finding a doctor who will tie her tubes while she is still in child bearing age. Most men prefer sex without protection, especially husbands. Some religions consider birth control to be a sin.

Until these things change, abortion should remain a option.

Women should not be asked to risk their lives and they should not be expected to be nuns for life either.

Society needs to grow up and realize that a woman's body is her business and is not the business of anyone else, pregnant or not.




its her body until it creates another body,, in my opinion anyhow

people who create life should be responsible for it in some way other than ending it

there is adoption, there is also just the option to say no without protection ,,,


You can of course have your opinion. Everyone does have their opinion. I have mine.

There are many situations where saying "no" is not an option. (Rape for example.) But there are others.



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Thu 10/20/11 08:30 PM
Edited by Peccy on Thu 10/20/11 08:32 PM
Sperm alone is not a life, nor is an egg, it's when the two combine is when life starts in my opinion. Because from then on, the cells have the potential of becoming human. And I think the ruling in Colorado is absurd. The child is alive I believe long before that, 9 months before. Yes JB, everyone has their own opinion and I won't say the opposite is wrong, just not my beleif.

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Thu 10/20/11 08:36 PM

Sperm alone is not a life, nor is an egg, it's when the two combine is when life starts in my opinion. Because from then on, the cells have the potential of becoming human. And I think the ruling in Colorado is absurd. The child is alive I believe long before that, 9 months before. Yes JB, everyone has their own opinion and I won't say the opposite is wrong, just not my beleif.


AH... but POTENTIAL for the life of a human being exists even before the sperm and egg get together. That is, if you are talking about "potential."

An embryo may be considered to be 'alive' but it is not considered to be a 'person' or a human being as defined by law.







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Thu 10/20/11 08:40 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 10/20/11 08:44 PM

but why just when they take a breath,, why not when they become self sufficient,,,,

I think it should start when it begins in the womb

perhaps someday, children will just be property incubated outside of wombs,, and then parents can argue who, when , and if either should have the right to just incenerate them....



Because the breath is "the breath of life."

If you can't breathe, you aren't alive. Not for long anyway.

Let that be a hint to you chain smokers.smokin smokin smokin smokin








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Thu 10/20/11 08:45 PM


but why just when they take a breath,, why not when they become self sufficient,,,,

I think it should start when it begins in the womb

perhaps someday, children will just be property incubated outside of wombs,, and then parents can argue who, when , and if either should have the right to just incenerate them....



Because the breath is "the breath of life."

If you can't breathe, you aren't alive. Not for long anyway.

Let that be a hint to you chain smokers.smokin smokin smokin smokin










so much for double homicide charges when a person kills a woman who is pregnant,, whether 3 months or 8...because it wasnt breathing and therefore not alive,,,,

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Thu 10/20/11 08:48 PM



but why just when they take a breath,, why not when they become self sufficient,,,,

I think it should start when it begins in the womb

perhaps someday, children will just be property incubated outside of wombs,, and then parents can argue who, when , and if either should have the right to just incenerate them....



Because the breath is "the breath of life."

If you can't breathe, you aren't alive. Not for long anyway.

Let that be a hint to you chain smokers.smokin smokin smokin smokin










so much for double homicide charges when a person kills a woman who is pregnant,, whether 3 months or 8...because it wasnt breathing and therefore not alive,,,,



Right. What's the point of double homicide charges anyway? So they can sentence him to two life sentences?

The only reason they want double homicide charges is because the prison system tends to let a murderer out after 10 or 20 years. They make too many deals.


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Thu 10/20/11 08:50 PM
Besides, if abortion is legal you can't charge someone with double homicide for killing a pregnant woman. Killing the unborn child is either legal or not. Its either murder legally or its not.

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Thu 10/20/11 08:55 PM

Besides, if abortion is legal you can't charge someone with double homicide for killing a pregnant woman. Killing the unborn child is either legal or not. Its either murder legally or its not.



the law cuts off at a certai point in the pregnancy,, depending upon the state

tell a mom who has carried life for eight or nine months, feeding it, being kept up by its kicks, etc,, ,that it wasnt a life,,,,,

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Thu 10/20/11 08:59 PM


Besides, if abortion is legal you can't charge someone with double homicide for killing a pregnant woman. Killing the unborn child is either legal or not. Its either murder legally or its not.



the law cuts off at a certai point in the pregnancy,, depending upon the state

tell a mom who has carried life for eight or nine months, feeding it, being kept up by its kicks, etc,, ,that it wasnt a life,,,,,


I agree with that. An abortion at that late date would be murder in my opinion, although the law may not agree. Personally, I think anything after 3 months is too late, unless the mother's life is in imminent danger.

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Thu 10/20/11 09:37 PM
It all comes down to the fact that no one has the right to tell a woman what to do with her body.

If a woman doesn't believe in abortion, THEN SHE NEED NOT HAVE ONE, but she can't stop another woman from it.

Men need to not get women pregnant if they don't believe in abortion unless they have made the mutual agreement that she will have the child and they will care for it. And don't fight with her during the first six months or so of the pregnancy at least to make sure she carries it full term.:thumbsup:

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Thu 10/20/11 09:39 PM
I agree, I just dont agree that a pregnancy is merely the womans 'body'

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Thu 10/20/11 09:57 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 10/20/11 09:58 PM

I agree, I just dont agree that a pregnancy is merely the womans 'body'


I disagree.

Unless they can find a way to remove the fetus and put it inside of someone else without harming it.

Otherwise if a woman is pregnant, it is her 'body' that is stuck with it, and its her life at stake and it should be her decision ALONE what to do.

If you want to make a claim that it's anyone else's business, then you are taking away her rights to choice.




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