I guess we are starting off well then, considering we have had a record number of deportations under this 'fearless leader'

believe nothing. said it's absurd.

ok. The notion is an absurd one. IT seems to be reflected in statements like Herman Cain's

' “Don’t blame Wall Street. Don’t blame the big banks. If you don’t have a job and (if) you’re not rich, blame yourself.”

a sentiment I have heard repeated by minglers as well

In a society set up like ours is, there will always be poor and homeless.

The mind of an enlightened intelligent person will see that there are basic things that need to be provided in every society. Educating the young is one of them along with safety and health for all. We are low scoring on the safety and fail miserably on the health of our humans in this country.

Privatizing the schools does not create competition as was suggested. Because the poor schools in poor areas will not be able to compete.

So public education should be available to all.

Even the illegal children. We should not discriminate against any child for it is not their fault they are illegally here.

Only the ignorant (don't know what the hell they are talking about) believe that a tax free country would be a better country.

Paying for the betterment of this country, it's education, the safety and health of it's human inhabitants is a benefit for all.

I agree with all that except the illegal immigrant. Children are affected by their parents choices, however well intentioned.

IF I steal a thousand from a bank to pay for my childs education,, my child will suffer if I am caught breaking the law,,,thats not the government being insensitive , its parents making poor choices and government enforcing the laws,,,


unfortunately, children will always be impacted by their parents choices,, and when those choices are illegal,,,those children suffer even more because of removal of a parent and an income when they are incarcerated,, but again, that is the responsibility of the parents


stealing to feed your kids, I empathize with, but along with that choice is the risk you take of getting caught and what that will mean for you and your children

we cant stop enforcing laws because those who break them have children,,,

Individuals, working individually, and only concerned for their own individual welfare, will never outperform a well trained well led team.

hardly a reflection of what cain said. the national parks employ about a third of their workers each season from foreign countries simply because they cannot get enough americans to work. when i spent a summer at mt. rainier my neighbor was there from spain so he could at least earn enough to pay his mortgage so his family would not lose their home. i see people on unemployment who simply will not work until their benefits run out. blackberries are rotting on the vines and farmers are going bankrupt in georgia because illegals have left the state because of increased immigration inforcement and no americans will lower themselves to pick the berries. cain never suggested that the poor are to blame for being poor. what he meant was that the first place to look when you're down and out is at yourself and what you are doing to correct the problem. if everybody accepted their share of personal responsibility unemployment figures would improve dramatically.

except he didnt say if you are down and out look at yourself

he said if you dont have a job(which the economy is set up to make sure of a certain percent NOT HAVING JOBS) and arent rich (as if thats what unemployed people are concerned about, and as if RICH doesn't actually REQUIRE some people to be poor and therefore not something that everyone can have),, BLAME YOURSELF

totally disregarding any potential responsibility held by the system itself


as to farming and national parks, not everyone even lives in an area where those industries hire, so that paints all unemployed with a pretty big and inaccurate brush,,,

oh i can assure you that the people who come thousands of miles to work in our national parks don't live in the area. still, they come to work. i think a survey would be in order to determine what percentage of the unemployed are doing to better their education and qualifications. my guess is that it's a very small number. sure, you'll say that that takes money but it costs nothing to read up on many work skills on the internet. fact is, industries are changing and workers can adjust to the change or not work. i stand by my point that were more prsonal responsibility excercised in this country the unemployment rate would drop dramatically.

a survey would also be in order to see how many walk away from mortgaged homes and families and other roots to go work in parks that are thousands of miles away

or how much such a change in that one small industry would change unemployment (currently , the agricultral industry employs 1.5 percent of the workforce), and pays a pittance

why would people strive for that and if people have invested time and money to strive for more,, why would they settle for it when its hardly going to cover the expenses to repay their investment?

its a pitiful double standard that individuals are expected to have this exclusive type of responsibility,, but corporations and companies and banks are continually protected against potential hardships and 'down and out times'


people like Cain are all for blaming economic policies when banks fail, but when individuals fall on hard times,, its all on them


its a pretty sucky attitude, in my opinion, and I dont think unemployment will change until we first change that double standard that places big profits for business above financial stability for individuals..

People are in school for 16 years. Thats it. People have healthcare the whole time they are alive. Average life is what 70ish? so about 6 times more. Not to mention education is paid mostly by state and is less expensive than healthcare.

I still dont get your point. We dont pay taxes on an INDIVIDUALS health or an INDIVIDUALS education. We pay taxes for the ONGOING EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM. We could do the same with an ongoing health system,, if we placed the same significance on it.

OMG its not hard to understand. We pay taxes to cover costs. Yes people are always in school, but an individual is only in school for 16 years. Thus the entire population is not taking money for school thus the cost is way way cheaper. Healthcare everyone is all their whole life. Not to mention the cost per person is more.

Education we are only paying for people for sorry 12 years not 16. 6-18 thats it. Thats all we pay for.

I disagree. Far fewer people are getting healthcare 'for a lifetime' than are getting a public education. The numbers are not an excuse.