Topic: Smart college student...
Dragoness's photo
Fri 10/07/11 04:39 PM
when asked about a rash of burglaries on campus, he said "Until we solve the problem of human evil, we should be locking our doors".

Just thought I would share his thought.....:thumbsup:

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Fri 10/07/11 04:59 PM
DOH slaphead

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Fri 10/07/11 05:05 PM
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Jesus H. Christ! Private Pyle, why is your footlocker unlocked?
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, I don't know, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Private Pyle, if there is one thing in this world that I hate, it is an unlocked footlocker! You know that, don't you?
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, yes, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: If it wasn't for dickheads like you, there wouldn't be any thievery in this world, would there?
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, no, sir!


msharmony's photo
Fri 10/07/11 10:53 PM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 10/07/11 10:54 PM
there are places where people leave doors unlocked and still have less theft and crime than where people lock them


I also dont think theft has to necessarily do with people being 'evil'

I dont think we have to lock doors everywhere(thankfully), but I do think locking doors in places where theft is known to be an issue is more than logical

EquusDancer's photo
Sat 10/08/11 04:36 AM
I think letting thieves get away with it, basically a slap on the wrist, shows that it's okay to keep doing it.

Personally, I think after an offense they should be shot.

msharmony's photo
Sat 10/08/11 11:39 AM

I think letting thieves get away with it, basically a slap on the wrist, shows that it's okay to keep doing it.

Personally, I think after an offense they should be shot.



that sounds more like middle eastern justice, which, apparently, also has its place,,,

Im anti violence though ESPECIALLY when it comes to replacable and material things,,,but thats just me

motowndowntown's photo
Sat 10/08/11 04:38 PM
There's an old Arab saying;

Trust in Allah, but don't forget to tie up your camel.

msharmony's photo
Sat 10/08/11 05:01 PM

There's an old Arab saying;

Trust in Allah, but don't forget to tie up your camel.



lol.. what on earth

I think some of the middle eastern justice does work quite well in DETERRING crime,,(just a bit harder to steal with one hand than with two and people see ya coming,,for instance)

I just cant wrap my head around pre meditated violence on another, although i understand the 'just' part of it

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Mon 10/10/11 05:08 AM
it is not just to cut off someone's hand for stealing or cut out
their tongue for lying or evil speech. or as many have pointed out
it is not just to stone someone to death for infidelity, dishonor
or blasphemy.

material things can be replaced - period.
there can be restitution for false statements, infidelity, dishonor
and blasphemy as well.

however,

hands and tongues cannot be replaced and leave someone handicapped
for the rest of their life. honor killing is murder plain and simple.
this is not just punishment and never has been.

it is immoral and criminal to exact such unfair horrible punishments.

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Mon 10/10/11 06:12 AM
Edited by Mikey117 on Mon 10/10/11 06:14 AM
If they come through my door they will meet Cherokee, which if I am not home, is NOT they way they want to meet her!!! A big dog is the BEST way to discourage a home invasion or robbery!!!

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/10/11 07:28 AM

it is not just to cut off someone's hand for stealing or cut out
their tongue for lying or evil speech. or as many have pointed out
it is not just to stone someone to death for infidelity, dishonor
or blasphemy.

material things can be replaced - period.
there can be restitution for false statements, infidelity, dishonor
and blasphemy as well.

however,

hands and tongues cannot be replaced and leave someone handicapped
for the rest of their life. honor killing is murder plain and simple.
this is not just punishment and never has been.

it is immoral and criminal to exact such unfair horrible punishments.



I Ask this,, is it fair to execute someone with multiple personalities or split personality for a murder, since it was only a 'piece of them' that committed the crime?

this is where the definition of 'just' gets tricky and is interpreted differently and subjectively

I do understand the concept, whether Im agreeable to it or not, that if the hand offends, cut it off

its barbaric, but its also affective,, IM glad its not a justice we apply in the US, but I do think it has a logic behind it as much as any other 'justice' does,,,

you can also replace or pay for what was stolen, but does that deter from stealing again nearly as much as losing the hand? do we want to just replace or to deter it from happening again? these are the questions I Think are asked when people seek 'justice'