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Topic: WTH
motowndowntown's photo
Fri 07/22/11 04:37 PM
Who would want to bomb Norway for God's sake???????

msharmony's photo
Fri 07/22/11 04:42 PM

Who would want to bomb Norway for God's sake???????



who knows? times are a changing,,,,,

motowndowntown's photo
Fri 07/22/11 04:54 PM
But a car bomb in Oslo?

What are they trying to prove?

Do they have a thing against reindeer or something?

no photo
Fri 07/22/11 11:16 PM
Yeh I thought that was kind of weird too. It doesn't make much sense.

There is always some agenda or motive behind such things.... time will tell.


msharmony's photo
Sat 07/23/11 01:32 AM
sometimes the agenda is personal and sometimes its just insanity

this 'suspect' looks as if he could have followed Hitler,,,

http://politicons.net/breaking-name-of-utoya-shooter-released%E2%80%A6-anders-behring-breivik%E2%80%A6-photos/


he didnt try to flee, I think he wants to be known/heard,,,,


he is reported to be some type of bigot, but who knows what that has to do with his shooting of 'fellow' norwegian youth,,,,

no photo
Sat 07/23/11 01:37 AM
Its funny that he had a face book page. It has been removed. Probably getting too much traffic.


msharmony's photo
Sat 07/23/11 01:39 AM

Its funny that he had a face book page. It has been removed. Probably getting too much traffic.





strange that it was only two days old though,,,,,what

s1owhand's photo
Sat 07/23/11 02:40 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Sat 07/23/11 03:00 AM
Once people start arguing (and we have seen such arguments in these
forums) that terrorist attacks like these are a legitimate form of
political protest (which they are most certainly not) then any nutbag
with a grievance no matter how trivial can go on a crusade to kill
people as a form of political coercion.

Usually the argument is "one person's terrorist is another person's
freedom fighter" which is FALSE. These acts of bombing innocent
civilians and shooting up kids - attacking the public in cities are
war crimes even in warfare and must NEVER be tolerated by society or
we will have constant bombings surrounding any political controversy.

People who attack innocent civilians for their cause need to be
simply stopped and no one should ever allow such vile attacks to
advance their cause.

At least with the spate of attacks of this sort in recent years has
galvanized the world community against the common enemy of terrorism.

no photo
Sat 07/23/11 02:50 AM


Its funny that he had a face book page. It has been removed. Probably getting too much traffic.





strange that it was only two days old though,,,,,what


Really? Maybe someone else created it for a practical joke. laugh

msharmony's photo
Sat 07/23/11 03:05 AM

Once people start arguing (and we have seen such arguments in these
forums) that terrorist attacks like these are a legitimate form of
political protest (which they are most certainly not) then any nutbag
with a grievance no matter how trivial can go on a crusade to kill
people as a form of political coercion.

Usually the argument is "one person's terrorist is another person's
freedom fighter" which is FALSE. These acts of bombing innocent
civilians and shooting up kids - attacking the public in cities are
war crimes even in warfare and must NEVER be tolerated by society or
we will have constant bombings surrounding any political controversy.

People who attack innocent civilians for their cause need to be
simply stopped and no one should ever allow such vile attacks to
advance their cause.

At least with the spate of attacks of this sort in recent years has
galvanized the world community against the common enemy of terrorism.



one persons terrorist IS another persons freedom fighter, that is actually not false at all

its about how people perceive intentions when they consider the affects

IF I shoot someone who is about to stab my child they are just as dead as someone I shoot because I dont like their shoes

the affect is the same, the intention makes me a lifesaver in one instance and a cold blooded killer in the other

likewise with 'wars' and 'causes',

terrorists are perceived as taking the lives of civilians at some point that were not considered 'justified' or 'collateral'


freedom fighters are perceived as taking the lives of civilians at some point that were considered 'collateral',, the citizens are all equally dead though


its all in perception of the intentions behind the act,,,that make one perceive someone as a 'soldier' and another as a 'tyrant'

s1owhand's photo
Sat 07/23/11 03:08 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Sat 07/23/11 03:10 AM
Nonsense. There is never any justification for murdering innocent
civilians. I don't care what the "sacred cause is". There is a
reason it is considered too vile for warfare.

Bombing buses, cafes, schools, camps, hotels etc. should result in
crimes against humanity charges and never with advancement of the
cause celebre.


no photo
Sat 07/23/11 09:53 AM

Nonsense. There is never any justification for murdering innocent
civilians. I don't care what the "sacred cause is". There is a
reason it is considered too vile for warfare.

Bombing buses, cafes, schools, camps, hotels etc. should result in
crimes against humanity charges and never with advancement of the
cause celebre.




That's probably one of the rare posts you have made that I can agree with.

I hope in the future, our government and the people can see a very clear line between a terrorist and a resistance or freedom fighter.

s1owhand's photo
Sat 07/23/11 02:52 PM


Nonsense. There is never any justification for murdering innocent
civilians. I don't care what the "sacred cause is". There is a
reason it is considered too vile for warfare.

Bombing buses, cafes, schools, camps, hotels etc. should result in
crimes against humanity charges and never with advancement of the
cause celebre.




That's probably one of the rare posts you have made that I can agree with.

I hope in the future, our government and the people can see a very clear line between a terrorist and a resistance or freedom fighter.


drinker

It is quite clear. Not difficult to tell the difference.
Do they actually TRY to harm civilians on purpose? That is
the difference.

Freedom fighters do not AIM at civilians on purpose with the
idea of harming innocent men, women and children. But terrorists
do. There is a difference between a military operation in which
civilians are hurt or killed accidentally and terrorist operations
whose only aim is to kill innocent people.

For example, if a group of snipers operating from the roof of a
hospital is carefully targeted and they are killed because the
snipers were shooting at our troops and using the hospital as
a shield then this is not terrorism even if some civilians are
harmed or caught in the crossfire.

If someone bombs a civilian bus, cafe or shoots up a school with
the goal of harming as many people as possible. This is terrorism.

msharmony's photo
Sat 07/23/11 03:22 PM
IF someone targets an area where they KNOW civilians will be,, is that not 'terrorism'? or is that just 'collateral damage'?


military have 'targets' and they dont exclude a target because there are civilians there,,, is this terrorism or collateral damage

its certainly not an ACCIDENT if they are aware in advance civilians will be present

motowndowntown's photo
Sat 07/23/11 03:23 PM
I guess it just goes to show that there are nutbags where ever you go.

msharmony's photo
Sat 07/23/11 03:24 PM
that is an undebatable fact,,,

s1owhand's photo
Sat 07/23/11 04:19 PM
Edited by s1owhand on Sat 07/23/11 04:21 PM

IF someone targets an area where they KNOW civilians will be,, is that not 'terrorism'? or is that just 'collateral damage'?


military have 'targets' and they dont exclude a target because there are civilians there,,, is this terrorism or collateral damage

its certainly not an ACCIDENT if they are aware in advance civilians will be present


It is not terrorism if you are trying to attack an armed enemy who
is currently attacking you. If your attacker has a hostage for
example even if the hostage was an innocent bystander you may not
be able to simply let them continue shooting at you.

But this is distinctly different than trying ON PURPOSE to kill a
busload or cafe dining room full or schoolyard filled with innocent
people.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 07/23/11 04:50 PM
it seems he was mad about the pro - Palestinian plan the government just adopted... they are saying he was a mulism hater with right wing views...

motowndowntown's photo
Sat 07/23/11 04:57 PM
Gee that's a heck of a good reason to blow up a street full of people and shoot a bunch of kids at a resort.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 07/23/11 06:19 PM

Gee that's a heck of a good reason to blow up a street full of people and shoot a bunch of kids at a resort.


there might be a better reason out there, don't know yet... this is just what they have gotten off his posting on websites, so they are saying... i have read where it is the mind control mossad, the NWO, the lefties and our government so far...whoa whoa

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