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Im not making that generalization
notice I never said love didnt matter Im saying love is not really 'all that matters' responsibility matters compatibility matters maturity matters love doesnt feed my kids, money does(so money matters) love doesnt give my kids a mirror into where they came from, parents do (so parents matter) if we take out all the exceptions where there is fighting or no love(Which is unhealthy under ANY type of structure obviously) there arise other things that are ALSO important many things matter in life and child rearing in ADDITION to just 'love' |
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why can't they marry like i can? no one says they can't marry... where did you get that? The laws that prohibit it in some states maybe?? Come on now. there is no law that say someone that is gay cannot marry...any gay can get married just like anyone else... the law says it has to be a man and a woman that gets married, not two men or two women...being gay has nothing to do with getting married Oh give me a damn break! Yeah technically they can marry, but to do that they'd have to go against their own feelings. Thus, this fails, it does not work. How would you like it, if the law said you had to marry someone of the same sex to marry? so how is that inequality? they have the same rights as anyone that is not gay, and that is not equal? Because they'd have to change to be equal, and that's absolute garbage. I can't even believe you're trying to use this argument, you make yourself look very foolish. ok, since i'm so foolish... i can marry any woman i want, any gay man can marry any woman he wants... i cannot marry another man... niether can a gay man... any woman can marry any guy she wants... so can any gay woman... straight women cannot marry another woman, neither can gay women... so where is this inequality???? it is perfectly equal, you can't get more equal than that the argument is not about equality in the sense of equality apparently,, its about equality in the sense of 'love' everyone marrying whom they 'love' ,, with no condition, would be equal yet I apparently offend when I suggest that siblings should likewise be afforded that 'equality' and minors(with parental consent),,,, ok, i also want 3 wives... lets change those laws too, while we are at it... There ARE places where you can go and have your multiple wives... and NO body cares there there are places you can go for gays to be married also... and they are way better! Australia and Argentina, for starters... |
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Im not making that generalization notice I never said love didnt matter Im saying love is not really 'all that matters' love doesnt feed my kids, money does(so money matters) love doesnt give my kids a mirror into where they came from, parents do (so parents matter) No, but love is the base of a relationship, and if you can't be with the one or ones you love, what's the point of it? |
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why can't they marry like i can? no one says they can't marry... where did you get that? The laws that prohibit it in some states maybe?? Come on now. there is no law that say someone that is gay cannot marry...any gay can get married just like anyone else... the law says it has to be a man and a woman that gets married, not two men or two women...being gay has nothing to do with getting married Oh give me a damn break! Yeah technically they can marry, but to do that they'd have to go against their own feelings. Thus, this fails, it does not work. How would you like it, if the law said you had to marry someone of the same sex to marry? so how is that inequality? they have the same rights as anyone that is not gay, and that is not equal? Because they'd have to change to be equal, and that's absolute garbage. I can't even believe you're trying to use this argument, you make yourself look very foolish. ok, since i'm so foolish... i can marry any woman i want, any gay man can marry any woman he wants... i cannot marry another man... niether can a gay man... any woman can marry any guy she wants... so can any gay woman... straight women cannot marry another woman, neither can gay women... so where is this inequality???? it is perfectly equal, you can't get more equal than that the argument is not about equality in the sense of equality apparently,, its about equality in the sense of 'love' everyone marrying whom they 'love' ,, with no condition, would be equal yet I apparently offend when I suggest that siblings should likewise be afforded that 'equality' and minors(with parental consent),,,, ok, i also want 3 wives... lets change those laws too, while we are at it... There ARE places where you can go and have your multiple wives... and NO body cares there there are places you can go for gays to be married also... and they are way better! Australia and Argentina, for starters... But should they be forced to just because some others disagree with them? I say no way. |
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Im not making that generalization notice I never said love didnt matter Im saying love is not really 'all that matters' love doesnt feed my kids, money does(so money matters) love doesnt give my kids a mirror into where they came from, parents do (so parents matter) No, but love is the base of a relationship, and if you can't be with the one or ones you love, what's the point of it? a foundation is a base for the home, but I doubt many people just want to live on top of a foundation,,, OTHER THINGS Are important and serve a point too |
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Im not making that generalization notice I never said love didnt matter Im saying love is not really 'all that matters' love doesnt feed my kids, money does(so money matters) love doesnt give my kids a mirror into where they came from, parents do (so parents matter) No, but love is the base of a relationship, and if you can't be with the one or ones you love, what's the point of it? a foundation is a base for the home, but I doubt many people just want to live on top of a foundation,,, OTHER THINGS Are important and serve a point too Yes but it still starts from love, and yes other things are important, but it doesn't mean your way is the only way. |
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Im not making that generalization notice I never said love didnt matter Im saying love is not really 'all that matters' responsibility matters compatibility matters maturity matters love doesnt feed my kids, money does(so money matters) love doesnt give my kids a mirror into where they came from, parents do (so parents matter) ********! Calling ya out on this one ALL these things you do because YOU love.... |
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Im not making that generalization notice I never said love didnt matter Im saying love is not really 'all that matters' love doesnt feed my kids, money does(so money matters) love doesnt give my kids a mirror into where they came from, parents do (so parents matter) No, but love is the base of a relationship, and if you can't be with the one or ones you love, what's the point of it? a foundation is a base for the home, but I doubt many people just want to live on top of a foundation,,, OTHER THINGS Are important and serve a point too Yes but it still starts from love, and yes other things are important, but it doesn't mean your way is the only way. I know, everyones way is 'a way', and Im sure we are moving towards a time when to suggest a 'right' way to do anything will be the ultimate bigotry and everyone will just be doing whatever with whomever and demanding that it be supported,,, |
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why can't they marry like i can? no one says they can't marry... where did you get that? The laws that prohibit it in some states maybe?? Come on now. there is no law that say someone that is gay cannot marry...any gay can get married just like anyone else... the law says it has to be a man and a woman that gets married, not two men or two women...being gay has nothing to do with getting married Oh give me a damn break! Yeah technically they can marry, but to do that they'd have to go against their own feelings. Thus, this fails, it does not work. How would you like it, if the law said you had to marry someone of the same sex to marry? so how is that inequality? they have the same rights as anyone that is not gay, and that is not equal? Because they'd have to change to be equal, and that's absolute garbage. I can't even believe you're trying to use this argument, you make yourself look very foolish. ok, since i'm so foolish... i can marry any woman i want, any gay man can marry any woman he wants... i cannot marry another man... niether can a gay man... any woman can marry any guy she wants... so can any gay woman... straight women cannot marry another woman, neither can gay women... so where is this inequality???? it is perfectly equal, you can't get more equal than that the argument is not about equality in the sense of equality apparently,, its about equality in the sense of 'love' everyone marrying whom they 'love' ,, with no condition, would be equal yet I apparently offend when I suggest that siblings should likewise be afforded that 'equality' and minors(with parental consent),,,, ok, i also want 3 wives... lets change those laws too, while we are at it... There ARE places where you can go and have your multiple wives... and NO body cares there there are places you can go for gays to be married also... and they are way better! Australia and Argentina, for starters... Well, you don't even have to leave the country...go west young man! You said you wanted 3 wives, just trying to help a brother out. : ) |
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Im not making that generalization notice I never said love didnt matter Im saying love is not really 'all that matters' responsibility matters compatibility matters maturity matters love doesnt feed my kids, money does(so money matters) love doesnt give my kids a mirror into where they came from, parents do (so parents matter) ********! Calling ya out on this one ALL these things you do because YOU love.... I disagree, not everyone who feeds their kids loves them not everyone matures out of a place of love etc,,, what I do is not the way for everyone,, isnt that the argument of this thread? |
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why can't they marry like i can? no one says they can't marry... where did you get that? The laws that prohibit it in some states maybe?? Come on now. there is no law that say someone that is gay cannot marry...any gay can get married just like anyone else... the law says it has to be a man and a woman that gets married, not two men or two women...being gay has nothing to do with getting married Oh give me a damn break! Yeah technically they can marry, but to do that they'd have to go against their own feelings. Thus, this fails, it does not work. How would you like it, if the law said you had to marry someone of the same sex to marry? so how is that inequality? they have the same rights as anyone that is not gay, and that is not equal? Because they'd have to change to be equal, and that's absolute garbage. I can't even believe you're trying to use this argument, you make yourself look very foolish. ok, since i'm so foolish... i can marry any woman i want, any gay man can marry any woman he wants... i cannot marry another man... niether can a gay man... any woman can marry any guy she wants... so can any gay woman... straight women cannot marry another woman, neither can gay women... so where is this inequality???? it is perfectly equal, you can't get more equal than that the argument is not about equality in the sense of equality apparently,, its about equality in the sense of 'love' everyone marrying whom they 'love' ,, with no condition, would be equal yet I apparently offend when I suggest that siblings should likewise be afforded that 'equality' and minors(with parental consent),,,, ok, i also want 3 wives... lets change those laws too, while we are at it... There ARE places where you can go and have your multiple wives... and NO body cares there there are places you can go for gays to be married also... and they are way better! Australia and Argentina, for starters... But should they be forced to just because some others disagree with them? I say no way. ladylid was nice enough to invite me to move somewhere else when i said i wanted 3 wives... so you tell me |
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Edited by
Ladylid2012
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Sun 06/26/11 09:00 PM
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Im not making that generalization notice I never said love didnt matter Im saying love is not really 'all that matters' responsibility matters compatibility matters maturity matters love doesnt feed my kids, money does(so money matters) love doesnt give my kids a mirror into where they came from, parents do (so parents matter) ********! Calling ya out on this one ALL these things you do because YOU love.... I disagree, not everyone who feeds their kids loves them not everyone matures out of a place of love etc,,, what I do is not the way for everyone,, isnt that the argument of this thread? If one is a bad parent, it doesn't mean they don't love them, means they are a bad parent. Silly -ness You don't like the concept of gay people having sex let alone getting married so you are reaching and grasping at anything in your argument. Not even making sense anymore. All we have is love.. peace out peopleoids |
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why can't they marry like i can? no one says they can't marry... where did you get that? The laws that prohibit it in some states maybe?? Come on now. there is no law that say someone that is gay cannot marry...any gay can get married just like anyone else... the law says it has to be a man and a woman that gets married, not two men or two women...being gay has nothing to do with getting married Oh give me a damn break! Yeah technically they can marry, but to do that they'd have to go against their own feelings. Thus, this fails, it does not work. How would you like it, if the law said you had to marry someone of the same sex to marry? so how is that inequality? they have the same rights as anyone that is not gay, and that is not equal? Because they'd have to change to be equal, and that's absolute garbage. I can't even believe you're trying to use this argument, you make yourself look very foolish. ok, since i'm so foolish... i can marry any woman i want, any gay man can marry any woman he wants... i cannot marry another man... niether can a gay man... any woman can marry any guy she wants... so can any gay woman... straight women cannot marry another woman, neither can gay women... so where is this inequality???? it is perfectly equal, you can't get more equal than that the argument is not about equality in the sense of equality apparently,, its about equality in the sense of 'love' everyone marrying whom they 'love' ,, with no condition, would be equal yet I apparently offend when I suggest that siblings should likewise be afforded that 'equality' and minors(with parental consent),,,, ok, i also want 3 wives... lets change those laws too, while we are at it... There ARE places where you can go and have your multiple wives... and NO body cares there there are places you can go for gays to be married also... and they are way better! Australia and Argentina, for starters... Well, you don't even have to leave the country...go west young man! You said you wanted 3 wives, just trying to help a brother out. : ) lol still illegal there too |
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Im not making that generalization notice I never said love didnt matter Im saying love is not really 'all that matters' love doesnt feed my kids, money does(so money matters) love doesnt give my kids a mirror into where they came from, parents do (so parents matter) No, but love is the base of a relationship, and if you can't be with the one or ones you love, what's the point of it? a foundation is a base for the home, but I doubt many people just want to live on top of a foundation,,, OTHER THINGS Are important and serve a point too Yes but it still starts from love, and yes other things are important, but it doesn't mean your way is the only way. I know, everyones way is 'a way', and Im sure we are moving towards a time when to suggest a 'right' way to do anything will be the ultimate bigotry and everyone will just be doing whatever with whomever and demanding that it be supported,,, I honestly think we'd be more peaceful if we took a live and let live mentality more. All this right and wrong stuff for things that are personal choices, just divides. |
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why can't they marry like i can? no one says they can't marry... where did you get that? The laws that prohibit it in some states maybe?? Come on now. there is no law that say someone that is gay cannot marry...any gay can get married just like anyone else... the law says it has to be a man and a woman that gets married, not two men or two women...being gay has nothing to do with getting married Oh give me a damn break! Yeah technically they can marry, but to do that they'd have to go against their own feelings. Thus, this fails, it does not work. How would you like it, if the law said you had to marry someone of the same sex to marry? so how is that inequality? they have the same rights as anyone that is not gay, and that is not equal? Because they'd have to change to be equal, and that's absolute garbage. I can't even believe you're trying to use this argument, you make yourself look very foolish. ok, since i'm so foolish... i can marry any woman i want, any gay man can marry any woman he wants... i cannot marry another man... niether can a gay man... any woman can marry any guy she wants... so can any gay woman... straight women cannot marry another woman, neither can gay women... so where is this inequality???? it is perfectly equal, you can't get more equal than that the argument is not about equality in the sense of equality apparently,, its about equality in the sense of 'love' everyone marrying whom they 'love' ,, with no condition, would be equal yet I apparently offend when I suggest that siblings should likewise be afforded that 'equality' and minors(with parental consent),,,, ok, i also want 3 wives... lets change those laws too, while we are at it... There ARE places where you can go and have your multiple wives... and NO body cares there there are places you can go for gays to be married also... and they are way better! Australia and Argentina, for starters... Well, you don't even have to leave the country...go west young man! You said you wanted 3 wives, just trying to help a brother out. : ) lol still illegal there too it's Utah and Arizona...Nobody cares!! |
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why can't they marry like i can? no one says they can't marry... where did you get that? The laws that prohibit it in some states maybe?? Come on now. there is no law that say someone that is gay cannot marry...any gay can get married just like anyone else... the law says it has to be a man and a woman that gets married, not two men or two women...being gay has nothing to do with getting married Oh give me a damn break! Yeah technically they can marry, but to do that they'd have to go against their own feelings. Thus, this fails, it does not work. How would you like it, if the law said you had to marry someone of the same sex to marry? so how is that inequality? they have the same rights as anyone that is not gay, and that is not equal? Because they'd have to change to be equal, and that's absolute garbage. I can't even believe you're trying to use this argument, you make yourself look very foolish. ok, since i'm so foolish... i can marry any woman i want, any gay man can marry any woman he wants... i cannot marry another man... niether can a gay man... any woman can marry any guy she wants... so can any gay woman... straight women cannot marry another woman, neither can gay women... so where is this inequality???? it is perfectly equal, you can't get more equal than that the argument is not about equality in the sense of equality apparently,, its about equality in the sense of 'love' everyone marrying whom they 'love' ,, with no condition, would be equal yet I apparently offend when I suggest that siblings should likewise be afforded that 'equality' and minors(with parental consent),,,, ok, i also want 3 wives... lets change those laws too, while we are at it... There ARE places where you can go and have your multiple wives... and NO body cares there there are places you can go for gays to be married also... and they are way better! Australia and Argentina, for starters... Well, you don't even have to leave the country...go west young man! You said you wanted 3 wives, just trying to help a brother out. : ) lol still illegal there too it's Utah and Arizona...Nobody cares!! lol, just the liberals don't care... |
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why can't they marry like i can? no one says they can't marry... where did you get that? The laws that prohibit it in some states maybe?? Come on now. there is no law that say someone that is gay cannot marry...any gay can get married just like anyone else... the law says it has to be a man and a woman that gets married, not two men or two women...being gay has nothing to do with getting married Oh give me a damn break! Yeah technically they can marry, but to do that they'd have to go against their own feelings. Thus, this fails, it does not work. How would you like it, if the law said you had to marry someone of the same sex to marry? so how is that inequality? they have the same rights as anyone that is not gay, and that is not equal? Because they'd have to change to be equal, and that's absolute garbage. I can't even believe you're trying to use this argument, you make yourself look very foolish. ok, since i'm so foolish... i can marry any woman i want, any gay man can marry any woman he wants... i cannot marry another man... niether can a gay man... any woman can marry any guy she wants... so can any gay woman... straight women cannot marry another woman, neither can gay women... so where is this inequality???? it is perfectly equal, you can't get more equal than that the argument is not about equality in the sense of equality apparently,, its about equality in the sense of 'love' everyone marrying whom they 'love' ,, with no condition, would be equal yet I apparently offend when I suggest that siblings should likewise be afforded that 'equality' and minors(with parental consent),,,, ok, i also want 3 wives... lets change those laws too, while we are at it... There ARE places where you can go and have your multiple wives... and NO body cares there there are places you can go for gays to be married also... and they are way better! Australia and Argentina, for starters... Well, you don't even have to leave the country...go west young man! You said you wanted 3 wives, just trying to help a brother out. : ) lol still illegal there too it's Utah and Arizona...Nobody cares!! lol, just the liberals don't care... Na, the only time the state of Utah ever went after a polygamist was when the olympics came to Salt lake City...1991 I believe (doh, I was there ) the world was watching and they took that poor guy Warren Jeffs and made an example out of him. Haven't heard a peep about it all since. Just saving face is all...hypocrites! Why in thee hell would any man want more than one wife?!?! We already kill ya off quicker as it is, wanna die faster... ; ) |
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Na, the only time the state of Utah ever went after a polygamist was when the olympics came to Salt lake City...1991 I believe (doh, I was there ) the world was watching and they took that poor guy Warren Jeffs and made an example out of him. Haven't heard a peep about it all since. Just saving face is all...hypocrites! Why in thee hell would any man want more than one wife?!?! We already kill ya off quicker as it is, wanna die faster... ; ) variety...and also to split up the chores |
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Ya know, I read this thread and others of similar subject. As much as I really, really try to put myself in others shoes before making any kind of judgment... for the life of me I can not wrap my mind around WHY any of you give a flying **** who, what, where another chooses to marry. There is NO threat to your decision to not be gay, there is NO threat to your marriage..or potential marriage. There is no threat to YOU at all...why do you care? Seems to just keep coming back as..it's just not right, the definition of marriage has to be protected... get off your judgmental high horses. A same sex marriage has NOTHING to do with you or your beliefs... get over yourselves and let people live as they wish. so why are you worried about it? does anything i think or do affect you in any way, shape or form? you should get off your high horse and quit thinking that i should have to think like you and explain myself when i dont I care about the issue because I know gay people...many of them. Including a sister who is gay. They have the right to be happy...life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for ALL..not just hetro's. My high horse? The horse I ride that believes that ALL people have a right to live as they choose as long as it's not hurting you...is that the horse your referring to? It's really sad to me that religious dogma comes first to the happiness of human beings, it truly is. as someone else put it, happiness and marriage are two different issues we should all have the right to be happy and do whatever we want with whomever we want in our personal life we shouldnt have the government giving support to everything we want to do with whomever we want in our personal life though there is a difference, IF we were saying to outlaw homosexual lifestyles, I could understand the argument that everyone deserves to be happy but protesting homosexual marriage has nothing to do with stopping people from being able to live 'happy' It takes away something from them though that others can do, and denies them the benefits others get when marrying legally. So in that sense in particular, it very much does impact their ability to live happily if they are denied benefits others get. guess what? benefits are just that 'benefits' . not 'entitlements' I dont get the same benefits that come to others with having a masters degree I dont get the same benefits that come to those in a different income bracket I dont get the same benefits as a business owner these types of benefits are not 'rights' and have little to do though with my ability to live 'happy' My kids dont have the same 'benefits' as me there ia a perception of a difference of RESPONSIBILITY that leads to a difference in PRIVILEGE ,, thats life. it's the same thing over and over, gays want more than everyone else and use the discrimination issue to try to get it... they have every right you or me have, but that is not enough for them, they want more and better rights, to make them feel better about themselves...they say it's about happiness, but i guess the only way they are happy is if they get better benefits... No they DON'T have the same rights. If they can't marry like you can, they DON'T. |
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Im not making that generalization notice I never said love didnt matter Im saying love is not really 'all that matters' responsibility matters compatibility matters maturity matters love doesnt feed my kids, money does(so money matters) love doesnt give my kids a mirror into where they came from, parents do (so parents matter) ********! Calling ya out on this one ALL these things you do because YOU love.... I disagree, not everyone who feeds their kids loves them not everyone matures out of a place of love etc,,, what I do is not the way for everyone,, isnt that the argument of this thread? So, you're ok with people getting married for reasons outside of love, but not ok with two people of the same sex getting married because they love each other? |
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