That seems to be a contagious attitude.

a.... "you (so-called) Christians" do much much worse.

Frankly I'm sick of the crap. And I will not abide that B.S. from dangerous insane religious zealots.

I'm not going to put up with that from anyone. Not an inch. Give them an inch and they move in with their fear based hell fire and damnation. I don't give a crap how precious their beliefs are. They can believe what ever they want, but they better not cross my path with that crap.

You give yourself way too much credit.

My love is detached. That does not mean I will put up with insanity and personal attacks.

Truly.

Where does Elegance888 get off stating the following?



Clearly she's just posting nasty implications toward another person and doing it in Jesus' name.

How "Elegant" and "Christian" of her.

The first thing that any "Christian" should learn is to never be a hypocrite. Jesus clearly did not like hypocrites as he renounced the Pharisees for being that way.

Besides, who said that anyone was "following" Andromeda or "dark matter"?

Clearly it was just a spiteful post, posted in the name of Jesus no less.



Typical religious hypocrisy.

I love pictures of stars and galaxies. They give me peace to look at them. We, after all, are made of the stuff of the stars.

For her to insinuate something like that, then to tack on all that Jesus stuff is an insult to her own faith.

If you want to insult me and hate me or whatever, don't do it in Jesus's name. It's not a good reflection on true Christians who actually do follow the teachings of Love.

confidence nor faith have 'requirements'



confidence and faith can both be the result of what a person has experienced, either the direct or indirect result,,,

Sure it is.

Spreading hate for Jesus' sake, what an oxymoron.

There's nothing wrong with having faith in something MsHarmony.

However, when people who claim to have "faith" in something go around acting like everyone else should also believe it or they are "rejecting God", is truly crossing the line to insanity.

After all, very notion of "faith" is the idea wanting to believe in something simply because a person wants to believe it and for no other reason beyond that.

So when they start acting like other people should also believe and accept "as truth" what they would personally like to have "faith" in can be nothing but insanity.

Letters to Cleo
Cruel to Be Kind Lyrics

Oh, I can't take another heartache
Though you say you're my friend
I'm at my wits end

You say your love is bonafide
But that don't coincide
With the things that you're doing
When I ask you to be nice
You say you gotta be

Cruel to be kind, in the right measure
Cruel to be kind, it's a very good sign
Cruel to be kind, means that I love you
Baby, you gotta be cruel to be kind

Well, I do my best to understand dear
But you still mystify, and I wanna know why

I pick myself up off the ground
And have you knock me back down
Again and again
And when I ask you to explain
You say you gotta be

Cruel to be kind, in the right measure
Cruel to be kind, it's a very good sign
Cruel to be kind, means that I love you
Baby, you gotta be cruel to be kind

Well, I do my best to understand dear
But you still mystify, and I wanna know why

I pick myself up off the ground
And have you knock me back down
Again and again
And when I ask you to explain
You say you gotta be

Cruel to be kind, in the right measure
Cruel to be kind, it's a very good sign
Cruel to be kind, means that I love you
Baby, you gotta be cruel to be kind

Seriously???


You won't "put up with" them yet you'll perpetrate them?

Compared to some, Elegance888 is a genius, highly rational and a saint.

So speaking her mind is perpuating attacks? Nice to know.

You contradicted yourself. "... can be the result of what a person has experienced ..." That makes it a requirement, which is exactly what I said when I stated "reasonable deduction based on similar experiences".

Faith does not require experience nor evidence (as so many have stated in this thread and others), just the Bible or other religious text.

What are you talking about .. perpetrate them? What does that mean to you? What are you saying?

I posted a picture of a galaxy.

What? you didn't know the Bible doesn't state a world-wide flood?
Nor does it state 12,000 years.

So what kind of intellectual dishonesty is that? I'm Christian and I am here saying he's wrong. He made those fallacious claims, where's the proof you so often demand?





Yeah I saw that... Faith comes from God so of course an "Atheist" won't have any. (lol)

I have confidence my car won't break down, but I have faith that it'll start each day.





Love the double standards... He can say "we" without you batting an eye but I can't? Gimme a break!






Absolutely nothing which is why you will never see me making huge, ethical debating blunders nor stating my claims based on uneducated fallacies (lies).


Really, it is easier to spot the lie.
Stop assuming you know what the truth is and your eyes will be opened and ready when it presents itself to you.

LOL!


I'd tell you to read back a page but since you're brainwashed, you won't...

and this...



and this...




Damn, seems awfully personal to me.

I read what she said. Personally I think you're picking on her to pick on her.

Right. She started it.

Original post included for context:



Peter:


A) So, what? It was a localized flood that required Noah to gather ALL the animals of the Earth? Well, that clears up everything, then. I hope God made it conveniently next to a zoo, at least? How nice of him. (Really, I hope you did not expect me to avoid being facetious here).

B) Every Fundamentalist Christian I've spoken to (and there's been a LOT of them) all have claimed that the Earth was created between 12k and 13k years ago. Its not dishonesty, I'm merely relaying claims made by the faithful. If that offends you, I'd start talking to the other Christians you know.



So people who have faith in the judicial system, and have never themselves actually dealt with that system, was given their faith by God? This seems to be the new favorite word, so I'll use it: Fallacious! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

You can have confidence your car won't break down if you maintain it properly. You have faith it will start each day and that sounds correct too, for you cannot really experience the wear and destruction of certain mechanisms that wouldn't necessarily give warning. So ... yeah, right, that fits with my description.



This was mostly a silly statement made as a jab at Cowboy's use of quotes and my quoting his name ... not really meant to be something contested. If you re-read it, you can see the joke for what it is. I suppose I could have used a smiley ...

That being said, though, I cannot remember encountering an atheist who throws quotes around "God" or "Christian" (except as I have here because they are grammatically correct in application when referring to the words themselves--something I neglected to do in my last post specifically for purpose of example) as a way to belittle or insult a group ... even inadvertently. So, in that regard, I can speak for other atheists I know because I'm not speaking of their beliefs, merely recognized habits of print. I apologize if that actually offends any other atheist. lol



I am hardly uneducated where the Bible is concerned. Sorry. As I've stated in another thread recently, I was raised Southern Baptist and I know the material better than most of the Christians I've ever spoken with. I've pointed out inconsistencies of the text with belief but it always boils down to the same thing: People will believe whatever they want to believe.

Again, want to be offended? Talk to your fellow believers. They're saying this $#it, I'm just the messenger.

2 wrongs don't make a right, but 3 lefts do...