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Topic: I used to like Obama...
msharmony's photo
Sun 06/19/11 05:57 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 06/19/11 05:57 PM
oh, two politicians actually share some common goals,,,,

they must BOTH be just duplicates of each other,,,,lol



yes, john stweart and colbert are the kings of satire,,

and brilliant video/audio editing,,,lol

InvictusV's photo
Mon 06/20/11 06:52 AM
this forum needs to be called..

Politics, Current News, Events & Conspiracy Theories.

I am amazed at the contradictions I am reading. In one breath I see people talking about the government inciting false fear and then the same people are inciting false fear.

I don't have much faith in the competency of the government, but even they aren't stupid enough to shut down the internet.

That would cause the markets to crash immediately.







boi69's photo
Mon 06/20/11 09:14 AM
The bill was just a knee jerk reaction to something that really upset the President. When He did not release the Bin Laden Pics people thought they could go online and see the pics. Thats when many people got on and saw a fake pic out of Asia. Then virisus got in peoples computers and many could clearly tell the pic was fake. This fake got passed off as the real thing creating great contrversy and uproar.

we need to stop heavy handed hackers but shutting dow the internet is not the solution Mr. President

Type dead Bin Laden into google. Do a lil research you will see it was a fake produced out of I belive a Chinese News paper

groam6666's photo
Mon 06/20/11 06:05 PM
The Presidency is overrated. The real fault is with Democrats and even Republicans. Politics is about belief and not facts, ergo we will always have more of the same in some way or another.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 06/20/11 11:30 PM

i was under the impression that making threats on the internet was illegal, i could be wrong

To constitute "a communication containing a threat" under Section 875(c), a communication must be such that a reasonable person (1) would take the statement as a serious expression of an intention to inflict bodily harm (the mens rea), and (2) would perceive such expression as being communicated to effect some change or achieve some goal through intimidation (the actus reus). A message is a "threat" if a reasonable recipient would tend to believe that the originator of the message was serious about his words and intended to effect the violence or other harm forewarned, regardless of the speaker's actual motive for issuing the communication.

Any person who willfully threatens to commit a crime which will result in death or great bodily injury to another person with the specific intent that the statement made verbally in writing or by means of an electronic communication device is to be taken as a threat even if there is no intent of actually carrying it out which on its face and under the circumstances in which it is made is so unequivocal unconditional immediate and specific as to convey to the person threatened a gravity of purpose and an immediate prospect of execution of the threat and thereby causes that person reasonably to be in sustained fear for his or her own safety or for his or her immediate family's safety.

It is not necessary for the victim to actually be placed in fear of imminent serious bodily injury or for the accused to have the capability or the intention to actually carry out the threat. The offense is completed if the accused, by his threat, sought as a desired reaction, to place a person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury.


Actually threatening a President of the United States is illegal no matter where it's made, internet, phone, poster or even verbal.

There wasn't a threat made though.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 06/20/11 11:31 PM


I never liked him.

I can't wait until 2012, we will fix the huge mistake that was made in 2008.


Don't wish your life away. 2012 will bring more of the same crap no matter what puppet they put in office.


whoa

Lpdon's photo
Mon 06/20/11 11:37 PM




really? are people believing OBAMA is responsible for censoring in media(and internet IS a form of media)?


and are people under the illusion that the internet is a RIGHT? when it was created by and FOR the us government in the first place?


interesting,,,


Damn right it is a right!
It is COMMUNICATION AND FREE SPEECH.

Here is another bogus law they are trying to pass making a civil matter of copyright into government right to cease private property like computers etc.

It is outrageous! It is criminal. They are taking away our freedoms and our rights.

Yes the Internet is a right.... it belongs to THE PEOPLE.
OF THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE!
PEOPLE ARE THE POWER.

Governments are elected by the people. They are servants of the people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrRuuSlCCOc&NR=1&feature=fvwp


even 'free speech' has limits,, as in not yelling fire in a crowded theater

our 'rights' only extend to the next persons nose and when those 'rights' may infringe upon the safety of others, we have always had 'exceptions' regarding its status as a 'right'

in the case of an attack, there is authority to shut down the internet,, I say so what

if there was a terrorist attack, would they not have the right to shut down the borders? would this be just as inexcusable to people?

its called protection, sometimes its necessary to temporarily 'sacrifice' some of our conveniences for the sake of safety


Those who will give up liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither. I believe Thomas Jefferson said that if I recall right.

Further, they make up all the terrorist crap anyway, to scare us. It's all based on lies and deceit, every last bit. They wouldn't be able to justify taking everything away without it.


Yup, terrorism is so made up. 9/11, The USS Cole Bombing, the Embassy Bombings, the 1993 attacks on the World Trade Center, the Mumbai attacks, the London attacks, thw Underwear Bomber, the Times Square plot, the Daniel Pearl incident, Operation Bojinka the Beruit Barracks bombing. whoa

Maybe we were all poisoned by members of the Bilderburg by LSD and led to believe all those events happened. whoa rofl laugh

Lpdon's photo
Mon 06/20/11 11:43 PM


really? are people believing OBAMA is responsible for censoring in media(and internet IS a form of media)?


well, if al gore can invent the internet obama can censor the damn thing.laugh laugh laugh


Ummmmm, Al Gore didn't invent the internet.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 06/20/11 11:44 PM


msharmony

There are those who fight for freedom and speak out.
And there are those frady-cats who give it away because they think they need protection from some made-up enemy.

The media spreads fear and panic. They participate in terrorism themselves in that regard.

Too many good men died protecting our freedom and you just want to give it away? Cause you are afraid of some "terrorist" attack? You don't care about them shutting down the Internet cause you don't care about it that much?

You spend an awful lot of time on mingle. What ever will you do if they shut it down? LOL laugh laugh





seems kind of funny to be pointed out as being the one 'afraid' of things,,,,

I grew up pretty free, yet I didnt have internet, I dont envision the internet as a prerequisite to being free, so IM not afraid of not having it,,,pretty simple

if I didnt have internet? believe it or not, there have been plenty of times when I didnt and I found OTHER things to do (they do exist)

Id probably be reading my favorite book or writing some music, to be honest,, no big deal,,,


He's obviously the one afraid.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 06/20/11 11:46 PM
All these people with Paranoid Personality Disorder crack me up.

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Tue 06/21/11 01:02 AM



really? are people believing OBAMA is responsible for censoring in media(and internet IS a form of media)?


well, if al gore can invent the internet obama can censor the damn thing.laugh laugh laugh


Ummmmm, Al Gore didn't invent the internet.


I would agree, but he did make the following statement:

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

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Tue 06/21/11 01:03 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 06/21/11 01:06 AM

All these people with Paranoid Personality Disorder crack me up.


Your avatar pic with your FBI sign crack me up. laugh Is that really you?


boi69's photo
Wed 06/22/11 02:29 PM

All these people with Paranoid Personality Disorder crack me up.


Lol we dont agree alot but this time

They plan was acually just to stop hackers who mess around on goverment sites.(tho i understand its not that simple) It's not censorship its making something ilegal which should have already been illegal.

The only people who are freaking out seem to be using slippery slop logic that is not even in consideration right now.

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Wed 06/22/11 03:25 PM
The government will hurt themselves more than us if they shut down the Internet.


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Wed 06/22/11 03:26 PM
As long as there are phone lines, hackers can communicate with each other even if all Internet Service Providers are shut down.


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