Topic: I used to like Obama...
Kleisto's photo
Sun 06/19/11 01:09 AM

msharmony

There are those who fight for freedom and speak out.
And there are those frady-cats who give it away because they think they need protection from some made-up enemy.

The media spreads fear and panic. They participate in terrorism themselves in that regard.

Too many good men died protecting our freedom and you just want to give it away? Cause you are afraid of some "terrorist" attack? You don't care about them shutting down the Internet cause you don't care about it that much?

You spend an awful lot of time on mingle. What ever will you do if they shut it down? LOL laugh laugh




And don't forget ecommerce......you'll lose that as well.

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Sun 06/19/11 01:16 AM

msharmony

There are those who fight for freedom and speak out.
And there are those frady-cats who give it away because they think they need protection from some made-up enemy.

The media spreads fear and panic. They participate in terrorism themselves in that regard.

Too many good men died protecting our freedom and you just want to give it away? Cause you are afraid of some "terrorist" attack? You don't care about them shutting down the Internet cause you don't care about it that much?

You spend an awful lot of time on mingle. What ever will you do if they shut it down? LOL laugh laugh





seems kind of funny to be pointed out as being the one 'afraid' of things,,,,

I grew up pretty free, yet I didnt have internet, I dont envision the internet as a prerequisite to being free, so IM not afraid of not having it,,,pretty simple

if I didnt have internet? believe it or not, there have been plenty of times when I didnt and I found OTHER things to do (they do exist)

Id probably be reading my favorite book or writing some music, to be honest,, no big deal,,,

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Sun 06/19/11 01:19 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 06/19/11 01:20 AM
I remember The Commodore 64. It was an 8-bit home computer introduced by Commodore International in January 1982. Volume production started in the spring of 1982, with machines being released on to the market in August at a price of US $595

I used one but never owned one.

The first computer I owned did not have windows. You would turn it on and all you saw was a black screen with C- blinking at you.

Then you had to know DOS. (Disk Operating System) and you had to type in commands to pull up one program at a time.

If you could connect to the Internet, I didn't know how, but it was possible--- I think you just about had to be one of the hackers to know how to do it. There were no browsers. You just had to know how to connect with other computers and exchange files. I don't know how that was done.

My first operating windows system was 3.1 and I got on the Internet with that.


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Sun 06/19/11 07:35 AM

really? are people believing OBAMA is responsible for censoring in media(and internet IS a form of media)?


well, if al gore can invent the internet obama can censor the damn thing.laugh laugh laugh

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Sun 06/19/11 10:17 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 06/19/11 10:48 AM


really? are people believing OBAMA is responsible for censoring in media(and internet IS a form of media)?


well, if al gore can invent the internet obama can censor the damn thing.laugh laugh laugh


You think?

How do you suppose he would do that?
The only way he could do that would be to enact laws making it illegal for Internet service providers to provide Internet service and arrest them and take them to jail if they did.

That is TYRANNY! That is disrupting the free flow of INFORMATION!

They will of course call it "National Security." ITS BULL CRAP.

If people allow this to happen they may as well kiss their freedom and there *** (butt) goodbye.

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Sun 06/19/11 10:58 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 06/19/11 11:36 AM
WE ARE THE PEOPLE.

Join the revolution. Secure our freedom peacefully.
(message from anonymous)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET4Ki5Tr_CQ&feature=player_embedded#at=265

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Sun 06/19/11 11:58 AM
HAs anyone bothered to try to find this bill and see what it actually SAYS?

seems like the 'death panel' nonsense all over again

Kleisto's photo
Sun 06/19/11 12:03 PM

HAs anyone bothered to try to find this bill and see what it actually SAYS?

seems like the 'death panel' nonsense all over again


You know this is a topic all to itself. These bills are always so big that would be almost impossible to read through it all before it was voted on. This is by design of course, since they can slip in all sorts of things under the radar by making them that big that no one will be able to read through the entire thing.

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Sun 06/19/11 01:33 PM
not that its just him but when he came into office he hired 50,000 people to police the internet.i noticed since then that alot of sites are gone or come up replaced.

http://video.abovetopsecret.com/video5213/ATS_News_06_-_RFID_Chips_In_The_Swine_Flu_Vaccine/



http://video.abovetopsecret.com/video4842/ATS_News_04_-_US_Defense_Contractor_Owns_Chemtrail_Patent/

this site went down and now is a joke.this is like a talk show

for JESUS that satan runs.

heres another one run by the same people.

http://www.jvim.com/

i can tell by there pagan symbols they use.

its fun to see how many of them have black eyes.i was watching saturday night live last night and noticed the same thing.

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Sun 06/19/11 01:48 PM
Edited by Kleisto on Sun 06/19/11 01:49 PM

not that its just him but when he came into office he hired 50,000 people to police the internet.i noticed since then that alot of sites are gone or come up replaced.

http://video.abovetopsecret.com/video5213/ATS_News_06_-_RFID_Chips_In_The_Swine_Flu_Vaccine/



http://video.abovetopsecret.com/video4842/ATS_News_04_-_US_Defense_Contractor_Owns_Chemtrail_Patent/

this site went down and now is a joke.this is like a talk show

for JESUS that satan runs.

heres another one run by the same people.

http://www.jvim.com/

i can tell by there pagan symbols they use.

its fun to see how many of them have black eyes.i was watching saturday night live last night and noticed the same thing.


I still think religion is another tool the elite use to divide and control the masses. That said, these are very sinister people still no doubt. Didn't know that about the 50,000 people incidentally, but guess I shouldn't be surprised.

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Sun 06/19/11 01:57 PM
I guess we should ignore the new dangers and intrusions that the internet has become home to for the sake of holding onto the scammers source of mass scamming, and the embezzlers source of mass embezzling

the internet is not shut down, it is policed,, big whoop

I wish they had policed it more before someone got my personal information and cleaned out my bank account

I wish they had policed it more when someone posted my personal address and social security online

I wish they police it more to keep these pedophiles away from pre pubescent children


it needs to be policed, because it reaches so many people so easily and is such an excellent and anonymous ways for crooks to carry on their business,,,

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Sun 06/19/11 02:15 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 06/19/11 02:18 PM
I wish they had policed it more before someone got my personal information and cleaned out my bank account.


Policing the Internet won't help much there.

My mother is 87 years old and twice I had to change her Bank account number and open a new account because they scammed her by telephone and convinced her to give them her bank account number.

No matter what we did, or who we called, nobody could do anything about these scammers. The phone company could not trace the call, they could not block the call, they could not do a damn thing. The FBI was not interested in wasting their time. Several other agencies I called, even the AARP could only advise us to change her phone number.

So I had to change her number, make it unlisted, and change two of her bank accounts to stop this from happening.

I am sure they called her through some sort of untraceable hacking Internet connection. Your general government or law enforcement agencies don't have a chance catching these criminals. They don't even want to be bothered.

But the bottom line is they got her bank account information FROM HER. She gave it to them.

This is not always the case. Sometimes when you buy something from the wrong people and give a credit card number or bank account number they can use that to electronically steal your money.

The banks can't do a damn thing about it either. When the money is gone, its gone. Your money is not safe in the bank. That is my conclusion.

But don't punish the Internet. Just take your money out of the banks if they can't protect you.

But nevertheless, policing the Internet to the extreme they want to do it is not the answer. It only hurts the people and the free flow of information.


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Sun 06/19/11 02:24 PM

You should listen to it again. The message was more to the people than actually to Obama. It informs the people about the threat (from Obama) to rob them of their freedom of the Internet. There was no threat to Obama.

All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

Don't let your freedom be taken away. That is what that message was about.


selective hearing


Dear President Obama. We welcomed you with open arms and now what do you do. You now threaten the very thing that we fight for and that is freedom of the internet. your fascist proposal to be able to control the internet and shut it down if you deem it necessary has caught the eye of Anonymous. You can now consider yourself an enemy along with the entire United States congress. Tell me Mister President, when has it become acceptable to rob the very freedoms that your forefathers set?

We once had freedom now we have censors, surveillance and regulations. You now have complete control of us and can access any one of our personal information at whim. You now made privacy a crime. For this we cannot stand, do you not think people are watching you this very moment? we know everything about you, and what your doing is not going to go unpunished.

People we have to stand up for our right to privacy. Who are they to invade our space? Just imagine someone is watching everything you are doing on the internet, scary right? Well that's just the beginning. They now have access to banking information, telecommunications, and even our energy use. If we do not speak out then nothing can be accomplished.

Senator Jay Rockefeller, President Obama,
We do not forgive these restrictions
We do not forget about the freedoms you have robbed from us

this will not last long and you my friend can count on it.
We are anonymous,
we are legion, we do not forgive, we do not forget,
and we are just getting started.
Expect us


some of what he said is urging people to band together, some is intimidation by threat, some is just fact, i guess you hear what you want to hear to back up what you believe


Kleisto's photo
Sun 06/19/11 03:05 PM

But nevertheless, policing the Internet to the extreme they want to do it is not the answer. It only hurts the people and the free flow of information.


Amen and this is what they want. They will use any excuse in the book to justify these extremes. Don't fall for their traps.

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Sun 06/19/11 03:11 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 06/19/11 03:13 PM
some of what he said is urging people to band together, some is intimidation by threat, some is just fact, i guess you hear what you want to hear to back up what you believe


Yes people should always ban together to protect their freedom, don't you think?

I like anonymous and what they stand for. FREEDOM.

BYE NOW.waving


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Sun 06/19/11 03:29 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 06/19/11 03:39 PM
Oh, and there is this just in!


OBAMA'S OWN WORDS ARE HIS WORST ENEMY (2008 vs. 2011):


2008: "Navy Seal Team 6 is Cheney's private assassination team."
2011: "I put together Seal Team 6 to take out Bin Laden."


2008: "Bin Laden is innocent until proven guilty, and must be captured alive and given a fair trial."
2011: "I authorized Seal Team 6 to kill Bin Laden."


2008: "Guantanamo is entirely unnecessary, and the detainees should not be interrogated."
2011: "Vital intelligence was obtained from Guantanamo detainees that led to our locating Bin Laden."


I HOPE THIS GETS SENT AROUND TO PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT THE TRUTH!

*****

(Have they replaced the real Obama or have THEY bribed, blackmailed and threatened him to cooperate with THEM?)

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED?




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Sun 06/19/11 03:44 PM

Oh, and there is this just in!


OBAMA'S OWN WORDS ARE HIS WORST ENEMY (2008 vs. 2011):


2008: "Navy Seal Team 6 is Cheney's private assassination team."
2011: "I put together Seal Team 6 to take out Bin Laden."


2008: "Bin Laden is innocent until proven guilty, and must be captured alive and given a fair trial."
2011: "I authorized Seal Team 6 to kill Bin Laden."


2008: "Guantanamo is entirely unnecessary, and the detainees should not be interrogated."
2011: "Vital intelligence was obtained from Guantanamo detainees that led to our locating Bin Laden."


I HOPE THIS GETS SENT AROUND TO PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT THE TRUTH!

*****

(Have they replaced the real Obama or have THEY bribed, blackmailed and threatened him to cooperate with THEM?)

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED?







or do anonymous people continue to post anonymous 'quotes' with no source of validation whatsoever,,,lol


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Sun 06/19/11 03:46 PM
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jun/07/chain-email/chain-e-mail-accuses-barack-obama-hypocrisy-raid-o/


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Sun 06/19/11 04:31 PM
Edited by esebulldog on Sun 06/19/11 04:44 PM


some of what he said is urging people to band together, some is intimidation by threat, some is just fact, i guess you hear what you want to hear to back up what you believe

Yes people should always ban together to protect their freedom, don't you think?

I like anonymous and what they stand for. FREEDOM.

BYE NOW.


waving

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Sun 06/19/11 04:48 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 06/19/11 05:14 PM
You might appreciate this: John Daily Show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnYDOAAHfFolaugh laugh

Bush = Obama comparison between the two announcing our role in Irac.

Very funny.... er and interesting.

2008: "Bin Laden is innocent until proven guilty, and must be captured alive and given a fair trial."

If Obama did not say that.... he should have.laugh

Yep the email is making its rounds.....I got it from someone today. I didn't check it out.

This just goes to show people you how powerful the Internet is and why THEY want to have the power to shut it down or regulate and control it.


The summary of your link:

A few of the sentiments have some link to reality – Obama did order the raid to kill bin Laden, and he did oppose Guantanamo, even though he ultimately failed to carry through on his promise to close it. The critics may have wished Obama had made these statements, but appears the statements have no basis in reality. It's clear from our research that all six quotes are fabrications. Once again a widely circulated chain e-mail is spreading ridiculous falsehoods about Obama. We rate this e-mail Pants on Fire.

The Obama haters are at work for sure. Far from the truth? Not so far, actually. Did he actually say those things? There is no proof he did.

But there is not much difference between Obama and Bush according to John Stewart's video of their speeches. Good for John.laugh laugh