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One of the things that keeps me staying is knowing my higher power can speak through other people. Of course, for me, I choose to call my higher power, God. One day while I was changing one of our old ladies' brief she spoke to me. I was actually talking to another aide but she was listening in. It was during the time I found out that my work could actually talk to me. It was such a revelation to me since I used to only work with manufactured parts and not so much with people. I was telling the aide that I just hate to ask for help. I was referring to changing the resident’s brief since I used to have to psych myself up to do my job. To envision what I am talking about you have to realize that this resident had her rails up and from the viewpoint of me it was as if looking down at a cradle with a baby inside it. The resident told me it was okay to ask for help as we all need help now and then. Her still small voice is like how God can speak to us in a still small voice. It doesn't have to be from a burning bush, a donkey or anything so spectacular. It can be from someone who has been there before. After that time I have found that I actually argue less with my work and I don't get as stressed or so prone to anger. Helping others is one of the best anger management programs I have ever found.
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I guess you can say my relationship with Christ is still a bit rocky, though I do try to see things His way, it's just hard not to let things get to you at times. I do know He cares and always has, and if things get to me the way they do, I can't imagine what He goes through considering He cares much more and deeper than I am capable of.
Most things seem to be getting better, but it seems like things will be going good for a while then crash and burn, then get a little better, then get worse. I can't take these constant waves of good and bad, I'm not strong enough to sustain constant struggle, yet I seem to endure it and get a little stronger, but at the same time I fall becoming calloused, kind of like a hard boiled egg being boiled. It's gotten to the point where I have actually attempted suicide more than a few times. I'm afraid if something doesn't change, I will eventually kill myself, that's the only thing that really scares more. It's not death, but suicide. |
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Edited by
CeriseRose
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Fri 06/24/11 07:38 PM
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I guess you can say my relationship with Christ is still a bit rocky, though I do try to see things His way, it's just hard not to let things get to you at times. I do know He cares and always has, and if things get to me the way they do, I can't imagine what He goes through considering He cares much more and deeper than I am capable of. Most things seem to be getting better, but it seems like things will be going good for a while then crash and burn, then get a little better, then get worse. I can't take these constant waves of good and bad, I'm not strong enough to sustain constant struggle, yet I seem to endure it and get a little stronger, but at the same time I fall becoming calloused, kind of like a hard boiled egg being boiled. It's gotten to the point where I have actually attempted suicide more than a few times. I'm afraid if something doesn't change, I will eventually kill myself, that's the only thing that really scares more. It's not death, but suicide. totage, I am wondering if you have suffered a personal loss...or setback recently; from something that seems too difficult to recover. If so, and you feel comfortable sharing... Prayerfully, and lovingly there are those here who may help you to sort it out. Above all, the Lord is willing that your strength and faith is restored. Be healed, in Jesus' Name. Amen.  
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I guess you can say my relationship with Christ is still a bit rocky, though I do try to see things His way, it's just hard not to let things get to you at times. I do know He cares and always has, and if things get to me the way they do, I can't imagine what He goes through considering He cares much more and deeper than I am capable of. Most things seem to be getting better, but it seems like things will be going good for a while then crash and burn, then get a little better, then get worse. I can't take these constant waves of good and bad, I'm not strong enough to sustain constant struggle, yet I seem to endure it and get a little stronger, but at the same time I fall becoming calloused, kind of like a hard boiled egg being boiled. It's gotten to the point where I have actually attempted suicide more than a few times. I'm afraid if something doesn't change, I will eventually kill myself, that's the only thing that really scares more. It's not death, but suicide. Since I did try suicide one time and it was unsuccessful I had no choice but to believe that God didn't want me dead. That he had some reason for me to be alive. I mean I was willing to just sit in there in the snow and fade away. I had singled handily screwed up my marriage and wasn't really husband or father material. I had actually used logic to justify and rationalize the suicide attempt. But God showed me through the program that he had a plan for me to help others who had came to the same conclusion as I did. God even has a plan for the vultures and everything that he made down to even the smallest of living creatures. A personal relationship with Jesus is the best one that I have found. Today, I can tell God that my day totally sucked and I believe God can understand. Some people can think that God doesn't love the world but the truth is that he loved the world so much that he gave his only son. And Jesus loved God so much that he was willing to make the ultimate sacrifice. To me that is a personal relationship. I think Jesus said it best when he said: John 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Luke 12:4 "I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. John 10:11 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. John 17:19 For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified. Romans 5:7 Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 1 John 3:16 This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers. But suicide is just a real waste. It is totally different. |
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Please convince me to remain faithful and to believe that there is loving and caring God. I don't think I can do this any longer. If you are questioning your faith in God, then pray to God for faith. Faith is not of your doing, it's a gift from God for seeking Him. Tell God your doubts and fears, treat Him as you would treat your father. God appreciates honesty and perseverance and rewards those who possess those qualities. I agree with this wholeheartedly. There is nothing anyone can say or any book you can read to give you faith. Faith is a supernatural gift. Pray for it. God WILL give it to you if you sincerely want it. Once you have faith, being faithful becomes fairly easy. |
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I don't think it's a test. God knows my limits, I don't think he would push me this far unless he purposely wanted me to fail, if that's the case, the God of the Bible can not exist, therefore making anything of the Bible meaningless fable. Of course there's a barrier of some sort. What it is, I don't know. I'm starting to think it may be that he's not there though, but there's also a part of me that thinks that can't be. The barrier is usually sin of some kind and our attachment to it. We all want to do what we want to do and love of God usually comes second to what we want. And, that is what pulls us away. |
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Edited by
CeriseRose
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He Will Carry You- Scott Wesley Brown http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9JEsJJYjyI&feature=player_detailpage 
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I just don't see how God can be loving and caring anymore. I can't just ignore things like how God can allow a wife to be beaten, children abused and neglected, unloved by their so called parents. How he can allow people who commit these things to get away with it and not stop them. How can God, being as loving and caring as He supposed to be allow defenseless children to be tortured because it's someones will? IDK, any reason for it just seems like excuses. If you can excuse God for not doing something, when He's the only one that can, you may as well just make excuses for those who rape, murder, and abuse their family. That's just how I have been feeling lately. Yeah we all are sinners and everything, but those who are the cleanest get the most severe punishments? "We Are The Reason" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrPAZbD6fG0&feature=player_detailpage |
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totage,
that is part of the test, that is why there will be many that fall by the wayside, you pass this __the rest will be a breeze. we have to prove to 'GOD that we will 'trust' in him thru hell or high water. that's what the test is...think you want to pass it? keep reminding yourself what 'HELL' was like, since you were having a preview of it. you don't want to go back there. so you have no choice but MOVE FORWARD. you move backwards, you may die in that hell of a place.. was a PREVIEW of HELL and real HELL you burn forever and ever and ever.. your choice? we all have had a taste of 'HELL in our own way. you decide it is good for you or not? it is all about a 'COMMITMENT' to save y.self. |
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Edited by
CeriseRose
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Sun 06/26/11 07:05 AM
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totage, that is part of the test, that is why there will be many that fall by the wayside, you pass this __the rest will be a breeze. we have to prove to 'GOD that we will 'trust' in him thru hell or high water. that's what the test is...think you want to pass it? keep reminding yourself what 'HELL' was like, since you were having a preview of it. you don't want to go back there. so you have no choice but MOVE FORWARD. you move backwards, you may die in that hell of a place.. was a PREVIEW of HELL and real HELL you burn forever and ever and ever.. your choice? we all have had a taste of 'HELL in our own way. you decide it is good for you or not? it is all about a 'COMMITMENT' to save y.self. I agree, God wants us to examine our faith in Him... not to doubt it...but to remember to trust Him. Read the 1st chapter of The Book of James...which speaks of our temptations... which are a test... it also explains that God does not tempt us. |
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So right about the test. One passage reads, "Thou good and faithful servant. Thou have been faithful over a few things. I will give you more." Paraphrasing, of course. One thing I like about my program that goes along with my religious teachings is a thing called spiritual growth instead of spiritual perfection. In treatment we had to learn the value of small goals when we have trouble making big goals. Paul said that he pressed on to the mark of the high calling. Sometimes we want to bail just right before God wants to reward us.
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So right about the test. One passage reads, "Thou good and faithful servant. Thou have been faithful over a few things. I will give you more." Paraphrasing, of course. One thing I like about my program that goes along with my religious teachings is a thing called spiritual growth instead of spiritual perfection. In treatment we had to learn the value of small goals when we have trouble making big goals. Paul said that he pressed on to the mark of the high calling. Sometimes we want to bail just right before God wants to reward us. So true. I have a close friend in the program. Not sure what step he's in... but I can see he's learning to evaluate and appreciate his smallest growth spiritually. I am happy for those who know Jesus Christ ...as their Highest Power!!! |
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Please convince me to remain faithful and to believe that there is loving and caring God. I don't think I can do this any longer. I found this and hope it gives you somewhat of an answer. Many of us have felt what you feel. Kinda long but hope it helps. Hang in there, for we walk by Faith not by sight. Why does God let bad things happen to good people? anonymous A harsh reality of life is that it can sometimes be deeply painful. Too often, we encounter stories of loss, sickness, abuse, death and tragedy. And, our own lives are scarred by experiences we wish had never happened. In all this sadness and pain it is right that we should ask “why does God let bad things happen to good people?” God might reply, “Why do people do bad things?” Every piece of suffering and pain that we experience in life is the result of the ‘bad things’ that people do. This is easy to see in events such as wars, car accidents and crime. But what about the ‘natural’ diasters such as cancer and tsunamis? Well again, the ‘bad things’ that humans do are responsible. The Bible explains that in the beginning God made the world as a good and ordered world that was free from pain and suffering. Things would have stayed that way if humans had continued to acknowledge God for who he is. But when we failed to obey and respect him then the world became a place that was full of bad consequences. Even ‘nature’ itself became a source of pain. God let this happen because he gave humanity a free-will to decide how we live. But God will not let this go on forever. The Bible clearly presents a future day when God will reverse the downward spiral of this present existence. On that day he will do two things (amongst many). Firstly, he will bring to justice all those who have caused bad things to happen to others (Psalm 10). Secondly, he will do a magnificent work on this world so that “the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay” (Romans 8:21). On that day God “will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things [will have] passed away.” (Revelation 21:4). This sounds a bit ‘bizarre’, so how do we know that it will happen? The resurrection of Jesus from the dead is the beginning of God’s restoration of all things. His resurrection is confirmation that God can (and will) renew this world that has been thrown into frustration by the behaviour of humans. In fact, Jesus’ death and resurrection is the means by which God achieves this amazing work. And when we believe in him, then we become participants in this wonderful renewal by God. But that’s moving to another issue altogether. If you want more information along that line then you might find the following link helpful: http://www.christianity.net.au/you/what_is_a_christian God will not let bad things happen to good people forever. A day will come when he will bring justice to victims and renewal for those who trust in his son, Jesus. |
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Please convince me to remain faithful and to believe that there is loving and caring God. I don't think I can do this any longer. I found this and hope it gives you somewhat of an answer. Many of us have felt what you feel. Kinda long but hope it helps. Hang in there, for we walk by Faith not by sight. Why does God let bad things happen to good people? anonymous A harsh reality of life is that it can sometimes be deeply painful. Too often, we encounter stories of loss, sickness, abuse, death and tragedy. And, our own lives are scarred by experiences we wish had never happened. In all this sadness and pain it is right that we should ask “why does God let bad things happen to good people?” God might reply, “Why do people do bad things?” Every piece of suffering and pain that we experience in life is the result of the ‘bad things’ that people do. This is easy to see in events such as wars, car accidents and crime. But what about the ‘natural’ diasters such as cancer and tsunamis? Well again, the ‘bad things’ that humans do are responsible. The Bible explains that in the beginning God made the world as a good and ordered world that was free from pain and suffering. Things would have stayed that way if humans had continued to acknowledge God for who he is. But when we failed to obey and respect him then the world became a place that was full of bad consequences. Even ‘nature’ itself became a source of pain. God let this happen because he gave humanity a free-will to decide how we live. But God will not let this go on forever. The Bible clearly presents a future day when God will reverse the downward spiral of this present existence. On that day he will do two things (amongst many). Firstly, he will bring to justice all those who have caused bad things to happen to others (Psalm 10). Secondly, he will do a magnificent work on this world so that “the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay” (Romans 8:21). On that day God “will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things [will have] passed away.” (Revelation 21:4). This sounds a bit ‘bizarre’, so how do we know that it will happen? The resurrection of Jesus from the dead is the beginning of God’s restoration of all things. His resurrection is confirmation that God can (and will) renew this world that has been thrown into frustration by the behaviour of humans. In fact, Jesus’ death and resurrection is the means by which God achieves this amazing work. And when we believe in him, then we become participants in this wonderful renewal by God. But that’s moving to another issue altogether. If you want more information along that line then you might find the following link helpful: http://www.christianity.net.au/you/what_is_a_christian God will not let bad things happen to good people forever. A day will come when he will bring justice to victims and renewal for those who trust in his son, Jesus. So true. When you have seen the son you have seen the father. God said, "This is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased." Emanuel he was called which meant God with us. Jesus said, "Call no man master." It is easy to see from reading the Bible that God backed Jesus up and Jesus backed God up. Not my will but thine be done prayed Jesus. When one of Jesus' disciple cut this man's ear off with the sword Jesus just put the ear back on. He told this one disciple that he knew not which spirit he was of. One of my favorite readings comes from Psalms which illustrates this. David, the shepherd said that the Lord is my shepherd. Even the shepherd needs a shepherd. Which Jesus illustrates when he says, "Suffer the little children to come unto to me for such is the kingdom of heaven." Like father like son is true of Jesus. Jesus loved his mother but he told his mother that he must be about his father's business. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the light and also that No man sees the father except through him." In his prayer he gave us he let us know that we know not what we should pray for but that the spirit maketh intercession for us crying, "Abba, father". There is a point through deep travailing prayer that Jesus prays with us as we pray. Just like Jesus had to do when he was in the garden and his disciples went to sleep on him. We have an advocate with the father through Jesus so why would we ever need a devil's advocate. The devil has enough advocates for him and doesn't need any more. The harvest is ripe but the laborers are few. 
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Edited by
Alterette
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Sun 07/03/11 11:32 PM
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I just don't see how God can be loving and caring anymore. I can't just ignore things like how God can allow a wife to be beaten, children abused and neglected, unloved by their so called parents. How he can allow people who commit these things to get away with it and not stop them. Totage, I know it's a heartbreaking thing to witness. But, they don't get away with it; maybe in this life, but what is 70 years compared to eternity? G-d has a different perspective of time than we humans do. When we all face him and answer for how we've spent our lives, the punishment for these crimes will be greater and longer than we can ever imagine. Eternally. How can God, being as loving and caring as He supposed to be allow defenseless children to be tortured because it's someones will? G-d, who loves us all, suffers too when he sees these things. Yeshua said, "Whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me; and whoever ensnares one of these little ones who trust me, it would be better for him to have a millstone hung around his neck and be drowned in the open sea! Woe to the world because of snares! For there must be snares, but woe to the person who sets the snare!" G-d hates the torture and murder of innocent little ones more than anyone else. As followers of the Messiah, we have a commission: to spread the Gospel of Christ. If there were more harvesters to spread the Word, there might be less killed and tortured. As individuals, we can't do it all but we affect everyone we have contact with in our lives. Pray for these people because they need the love of Messiah more than anyone. Teaching someone about believing in and following Him will be like a ripple effect. Have you ever heard of Corrie Ten Boom? She was a Dutch Christian who, along with her father and older sister Betsey, were sent to a prison camp for hiding Jews during WW2. Casper, the father, went to the Lord before his actual imprisonment in the camps, but Corrie and Betsey were sent to a woman's prison. They were advanced in age and Betsey was very sickly and frail. One day, a guard whipped Betsey until she bled for being too feeble to pick up much with a shovel. Corrie's first instinct was to attack the guard, but Betsey knew what would happen if she did. So she covered her bleeding wounds and said, "No, Corrie. Only see Jesus." It says a lot about you that you are so burdened for these innocent ones; do what you can to help, pray for them and trust G-d to be fair and just. I know it's overwhelming at times. Just do your commission and keep your eyes on Jesus. |
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Perhaps it's through our own weakness that we are able to see Gods strength and power?
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Perhaps it's through our own weakness that we are able to see Gods strength and power? Without a doubt. 
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Perhaps it's through our own weakness that we are able to see Gods strength and power? That is definitely true for me. I don't know if you had a chance to read the book, "God is my copilot", but it is certainly a good read. I love to give God the praise because he is doing for me what I couldn't do for myself as the program tells us. It works in my job, too. When we are short-handed at work I let God know that he will have to help me. God is my backup higher power. “If we are painstaking about this phase of our development, we will be amazed before we are half way through. We are going to know a new freedom and a new happiness. We will not regret the past nor wish to shut the door on it. We will comprehend the word serenity and we will know peace. No matter how far down the scale we have gone, we will see how our experience can benefit others. That feeling of uselessness and self-pity will disappear. We will lose interest in selfish things and gain interest in our fellows. Self-seeking will slip away. Our whole attitude and outlook upon life will change. Fear of people and of economic insecurity will leave us. We will intuitively know how to handle situations which used to baffle us. We will suddenly realize that God is doing for us what we could not do for ourselves. Are these extravagant promises? We think not. They are being fulfilled among us — sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly. They will always materialize if we work for them.” Page 83-84 Alcoholics Anonymous~
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