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![]() We as a world can not get along with eachother and will NEVER for a one world government. You will see it in YOUR lifetime. ![]() |
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yes, all you can say is we are doomed. what you obviouslycannot say is what rights and freedoms we have lost which was my question.
The right to privacy. The right to a lawyer if you are arrested for ANYTHING. Freedom of information. ![]() |
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yes, all you can say is we are doomed. what you obviouslycannot say is what rights and freedoms we have lost which was my question.
The right to privacy. The right to a lawyer if you are arrested for ANYTHING. Freedom of information. we still have a right to privacy. roe v wade was decided based on that right. we still have a right to an attorney if we are arrested. the freedom of information act came long before the patriot act. You don't know much about the law do you? You can be deprived of an attorney IF you are deemed a terrorist or even a "domestic terrorist." They have the right to toss you in a secret prison and not allow you to call anyone. ************************************ Rescind President Obama's 'Transparency Award' now The Obama administration's record on secrecy and surveillance is a disgrace and should not be sanitised by unearned prizes clip: President Obama has not decreased, but has dramatically increased governmental secrecy. According to a new report to the president by the Information Security Oversight Office (ISOO) – the federal agency that provides oversight of the government's security classification system – the cost of classification for 2010 has reached over $10.17bn. That's a 15% jump from the previous year, and the first time ever that secrecy costs have surpassed $10bn. Last month, ISOO reported that the number of original classification decisions generated by the Obama administration in 2010 was 224,734 – a 22.6% jump from the previous year (see The Price of Secrecy, Obama Edition). • There were 544,360 requests for information last year under the Freedom of Information Act to the 35 biggest federal agencies – 41,000 requests more than the year before. Yet the bureaucracy responded to 12,400 fewer requests than the prior year, according to an analysis by the Associated Press. • Obama has invoked baseless and unconstitutional executive secrecy to quash legal inquiries into secret illegalities more often than any predecessor. The list of this president's invocations of the "state secrets privilege" has already resulted in shutting down lawsuits involving the National Security Agency's illegal wiretapping – Jewel v NSA and Shubert v Obama; extraordinary rendition and assassination – Anwar al-Awlaki; and illegal torture – Binyam Mohamed. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/jun/14/rescind-barack-obama-obama-transparency-award That is a WHOLE different situation. ![]() |
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yes, all you can say is we are doomed. what you obviouslycannot say is what rights and freedoms we have lost which was my question.
The right to privacy. The right to a lawyer if you are arrested for ANYTHING. Freedom of information. we still have a right to privacy. roe v wade was decided based on that right. How do we have a right to privacy if they can listen in on our phone conversations? Do you even understand that wont even happen to less then a quarter of 1% of Americans. It's not a big deal unless you have something to hide. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 06/16/11 07:36 PM
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yes, all you can say is we are doomed. what you obviouslycannot say is what rights and freedoms we have lost which was my question.
The right to privacy. The right to a lawyer if you are arrested for ANYTHING. Freedom of information. ![]() NOT IF YOU ARE CLASSIFIED A "TERRORIST." OR EVEN A DOMESTIC TERRORIST. Have you ever really read the patriot act? Yes, a normal arrest, you are marandized, and you can call a lawyer. |
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yes, all you can say is we are doomed. what you obviouslycannot say is what rights and freedoms we have lost which was my question.
The right to privacy. The right to a lawyer if you are arrested for ANYTHING. Freedom of information. ![]() NOT IF YOU ARE CLASSIFIED A "TERRORIST." OR EVEN A DOMESTIC TERRORIST. Have you ever really read the patriot act? Yes, a normal arrest, you are marandized, and you can call a lawyer. Wich is VERY rare. Jesus, people are so damn paranoid. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 06/16/11 07:40 PM
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yes, all you can say is we are doomed. what you obviouslycannot say is what rights and freedoms we have lost which was my question.
The right to privacy. The right to a lawyer if you are arrested for ANYTHING. Freedom of information. we still have a right to privacy. roe v wade was decided based on that right. How do we have a right to privacy if they can listen in on our phone conversations? Do you even understand that wont even happen to less then a quarter of 1% of Americans. It's not a big deal unless you have something to hide. You are so trusting. ![]() Times can change. The point is, now they have the power. What happens if the system becomes completely corrupt? We are screwed. We gave away all of our rights... no, actually they took them from us. Ever heard of ABUSE OF POWER? Absolute power corrupts absolutely. |
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yes, all you can say is we are doomed. what you obviouslycannot say is what rights and freedoms we have lost which was my question.
The right to privacy. The right to a lawyer if you are arrested for ANYTHING. Freedom of information. ![]() NOT IF YOU ARE CLASSIFIED A "TERRORIST." OR EVEN A DOMESTIC TERRORIST. Have you ever really read the patriot act? Yes, a normal arrest, you are marandized, and you can call a lawyer. Wich is VERY rare. Jesus, people are so damn paranoid. It might be "rare" now, but will it be rare in the future? During martial law? Don't be so naive. |
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yes, all you can say is we are doomed. what you obviouslycannot say is what rights and freedoms we have lost which was my question.
The right to privacy. The right to a lawyer if you are arrested for ANYTHING. Freedom of information. ![]() NOT IF YOU ARE CLASSIFIED A "TERRORIST." OR EVEN A DOMESTIC TERRORIST. Have you ever really read the patriot act? Yes, a normal arrest, you are marandized, and you can call a lawyer. Wich is VERY rare. Jesus, people are so damn paranoid. It might be "rare" now, but will it be rare in the future? During martial law? Don't be so naive. Jesus, this is getting old. People are to paranoid. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 06/16/11 07:50 PM
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I wouldn't call it paranoid if its true.
And you are not paranoid if someone is really out to get you. But if someone IS out to get you, you can either be clueless or aware of it. I'm not paranoid. I am aware. I know the signs. Of course the clueless will learn by experience. If they survive it. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 06/16/11 07:52 PM
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And it really does not matter if they ever abuse their power or not.
They should not have that kind of power over the people. People's rights should remain in tact. They are NOT. |
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I wouldn't call it paranoid if its true. And you are not paranoid if someone is really out to get you. But if someone IS out to get you, you can either be clueless or aware of it. I'm not paranoid. I am aware. I know the signs. Of course the clueless will learn by experience. If they survive it. It's not true. People who really believe all this stuff should talk to their doctor, they make wonderful medication to fix Paraniod Personality Disorders. Haldol, Thorozine, Lithium, Klonopin, Seroquel, Compazine, Zyprexa, Abilify and many more. |
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Paranoid Personality Disorder is a very serious medical condition and needs to be treated immedatiely.
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 06/16/11 08:02 PM
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Paranoid Personality Disorder is a very serious medical condition and needs to be treated immedatiely. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() My X-husband was given LSD type drugs when he was in the army. When he was released he was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic because of the drugs they gave him without his consent. He is a man who is very intelligent and has two doctorates. You are very young and you just don't know much. (32 is young to me) You have not seen enough. You are basically just clueless. I'm not paranoid. I'm very healthy. I just know things. And I would never take those poison drugs. That would be crazy. |
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![]() They are not poison, I know MANY people who they have helped and seen fist hand how medications like these positivly improved peoples lives as am EMT-II working for a Fire and Rescue Service and in hospitals. Not to mention friends and family who have been on these medications. |
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![]() They are not poison, I know MANY people who they have helped and seen fist hand how medications like these positivly improved peoples lives as am EMT-II working for a Fire and Rescue Service and in hospitals. Not to mention friends and family who have been on these medications. I know some too actually that have helped people. But I don't need any drugs and I'm not paranoid. I just read a lot and I have seen a lot. More than just "conspiracy theories" The government lies. There is something really rotten in Denmark. A lot of people know about it. You just probably don't want to know. |
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![]() They are not poison, I know MANY people who they have helped and seen fist hand how medications like these positivly improved peoples lives as am EMT-II working for a Fire and Rescue Service and in hospitals. Not to mention friends and family who have been on these medications. I know some too actually that have helped people. But I don't need any drugs and I'm not paranoid. I just read a lot and I have seen a lot. More than just "conspiracy theories" The government lies. There is something really rotten in Denmark. A lot of people know about it. You just probably don't want to know. I have read a lot on this also and it is all nothing more then conspiracy's. Noone knows what they actually do a B-burg, so it is all conspiracies unless they know for sure and were there to see for themselves. Once again, a one world government would never work. Next subject. |
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Edited by
Kleisto
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Thu 06/16/11 09:54 PM
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![]() They are not poison, I know MANY people who they have helped and seen fist hand how medications like these positivly improved peoples lives as am EMT-II working for a Fire and Rescue Service and in hospitals. Not to mention friends and family who have been on these medications. I know some too actually that have helped people. But I don't need any drugs and I'm not paranoid. I just read a lot and I have seen a lot. More than just "conspiracy theories" The government lies. There is something really rotten in Denmark. A lot of people know about it. You just probably don't want to know. I have read a lot on this also and it is all nothing more then conspiracy's. Noone knows what they actually do a B-burg, so it is all conspiracies unless they know for sure and were there to see for themselves. Once again, a one world government would never work. Next subject. There's a lot of things that you'd think wouldn't work, but when you have a population that is so dumbed down they won't question what they're told.......it works. The war on terror is in part kept going because of our ignorance to keep letting them take more and more from us. And I would STILL ask you, if they can kill JFK, what else can they do? |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 06/16/11 10:31 PM
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![]() They are not poison, I know MANY people who they have helped and seen fist hand how medications like these positivly improved peoples lives as am EMT-II working for a Fire and Rescue Service and in hospitals. Not to mention friends and family who have been on these medications. I know some too actually that have helped people. But I don't need any drugs and I'm not paranoid. I just read a lot and I have seen a lot. More than just "conspiracy theories" The government lies. There is something really rotten in Denmark. A lot of people know about it. You just probably don't want to know. I have read a lot on this also and it is all nothing more then conspiracy's. Noone knows what they actually do a B-burg, so it is all conspiracies unless they know for sure and were there to see for themselves. Once again, a one world government would never work. Next subject. Perfect example of a mind that is made up. How much stuff have you actually read? What are your sources? How long have you studied these "conspiracy theories." Did you read the list of things that have been done in secrecy that have been unclassified, verified and proven to have happened that was at one time "a crazy conspiracy theory?" All of these things are labeled "crazy conspiracy theories" until they are uncovered and revealed as being true. Yes there are a lot disinformation agents who spread some of the truth and exaggerate stuff and lie about other stuff. That is all done on purpose and you can always spot them and spot their agendas. They leave stuff out, they put lies in. They are easy to spot if you have been looking at this stuff for as long as I have. I look at any and all sources. I check them out with each other and what makes sense. I follow leads, and I really do get a feeling for what might be true. Some outrageous stuff at first is always rejected but I don't toss it until I double check it with other things. You have to keep an open mind. 95% of the stuff is repetitive and crap with agendas. I read real books. I have an antique store I inherited from my grandmother and she was a teacher. It is loaded with old history books and many other books, unchanged from what they were 80 -60 years ago. Many were printed before I was born. But just because they are old does not mean they are absolute truth. I doubt if you have read a fraction of what I have read. Anyway you aren't interested. I am interested. I want to know how the world works. As far as the "New World Order" is concerned, it is practically in place right now. We (America) invade any country we want, assassinate people and then announce it to the world. We bomb third world countries etc. If that is not the beginning of an order of being the world police force, I don't know what is. We are waging war on all the countries surrounding Israel and Israel is the country that is the threat. It has nuclear weapons. |
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yes, all you can say is we are doomed. what you obviouslycannot say is what rights and freedoms we have lost which was my question.
The right to privacy. The right to a lawyer if you are arrested for ANYTHING. Freedom of information. we still have a right to privacy. roe v wade was decided based on that right. How do we have a right to privacy if they can listen in on our phone conversations? you still have a right to an abortion and keep it private right? a phone tap requires a warrant even under the patriot act. phone taps are not new at all. |
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