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Topic: Similarities Between Stories in the Bible and Ancient Pagan
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Wed 06/01/11 04:12 PM
Please do explain completely unrelated similarity.

Every character in the bible was stolen from Pagan religions and modified to bring it into line with the current social climate at the time. The Bible is nothing more than a mish mash of stories and fable tales that have been lost in translation.

• Monotheism was stolen from Egyptian Akhenaton
• Creation was stolen from the Egyptian Creation
• The Jewish Yahweh's use of the word to create was stolen from the Egyptians (Jewish Yaweh replaces Ptah)
• "Let there be Light" was stolen from the Theban Creation epic.
• The "firmament in the midst of the waters…" was stolen from the Egyptian Creation
• Adam and Eve were stolen from the Egyptian Geb and Nut
• Eve coming from Adam's rib was stolen from the Epic of Enki and Ninhursag: "My brother what hurts thee?
"My rib hurts me"
ANET, 41.
Ninti who's name means "Lady of the Rib" cured Enki's rib
• Adam and Eve's punishment and loss of immortality were stolen from the Mesopotamian story of Adapa
• (Jewish Yaweh replaces Sumerian Enki)
• Jewish Cain, Abel and Seth were stolen from Osiris, Set and Horus
• The conflict between Cain and Abel was stolen from Set and Osiris and as the story goes on, it is later based upon the Sumerian Dumuzi and Enkimdu
• Jewish Samson was stolen from Heracles,
• The putting out of his eyes is based on Oedipus
• The pulling down of the pillars was stolen from the Egyptian tale about Re-Herakhte
• The Jewish story of Jacob and the Ladder was stolen from the Egyptian Funerary Rituals for the deceased King
• "Hail to thee, O Ladder of God, Hail to thee, O Ladder of Set. Stand up O Ladder of God, Stand up O Ladder of Set, stand up O Ladder of Horus, whereon Osiris went forth into heaven.” “The Egyptian Ladder consisting of the bodies of two Egyptian deities upon which Osiris ascends into heaven, has been replaced by a ladder with several supernatural beings, angels, climbing up and down between earth and heaven."

Also

• Krishna: Born in India 1000yrs before Christ, carpenter, born of a virgin, baptized in a river.

• Mithra: Persian God 600yrs before Christ, performed miracles, resurrected on the 3rd day, born December 25th, known as the lamb, the way, the truth, the light, the savior, the messiah.

• Horus: Written in 1280 BC, the Egyptian Book of the Dead describes him as the son of the god Osiris, born to a virgin mother, baptized in a river by Anup the Baptizer...who was later beheaded. Like Jesus, Horus was tempted while in the desert, healed the sick, the blind, cast out demons, and walked on water. He also resurrected Asar from the dead...."Asar" translates to "Lazarus". He also had 12 disciples, was crucified, and after 3 days 2 women announced that Horus the savior had been resurrected.


Epic of Gilgamesh: It is an epic Babylonian / Sumerian poem written around 2500-2000 BC about the hero-king mentioned above. In the poem, there is a man called Ut-Napishtim who is commanded to build a wooden ark because the Gods are going to flood the world. If you decide to read the poem, you will find many parallels with the Biblical story of Noah.
One of the most interesting ones is the story of Sargon of Akkad, a great Mesopotamian king, which is almost exactly the same as the Moses story...but about 2000 years earlier. Or the Mesopotamian legend of Utnapishtim, who is basically Noah.


Many of these accounts can be traced back thousands of years before Christianity... There are so much more similarities but I'm not writing a book here. I'm just bored after exams.

Any input into these matters would be greatly welcomed.

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Wed 06/01/11 04:46 PM



That's because in Christianities infancy they had to adopt Pagan beliefs in order to convince the Pagans to join the new religion. The old testament begins where Ragnarok ends!

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Wed 06/01/11 04:55 PM
Hmmm..Christianity adopting their beliefs.. says a lot in itself.

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Wed 06/01/11 05:01 PM




That's because in Christianities infancy they had to adopt Pagan beliefs in order to convince the Pagans to join the new religion. The old testament begins where Ragnarok ends!


True to a small extent...

While the adoption of Christianity into Roman culture did in fact create a lot of so-called "Christian" traditions and beliefs, there are still people who don't believe those lies...


As for the OT, it's common knowledge for most serious inquirers about the origins of the stories contained in the Torah. Check out PBS.org for the video and/or article about it.

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Wed 06/01/11 05:13 PM





That's because in Christianities infancy they had to adopt Pagan beliefs in order to convince the Pagans to join the new religion. The old testament begins where Ragnarok ends!


True to a small extent...

While the adoption of Christianity into Roman culture did in fact create a lot of so-called "Christian" traditions and beliefs, there are still people who don't believe those lies...


As for the OT, it's common knowledge for most serious inquirers about the origins of the stories contained in the Torah. Check out PBS.org for the video and/or article about it.


In regards to Norse religion that is exactly what happened, like I said the old testament begins where Ragnarok ends. Ever see a photo of the statue of Mary holding Baby Jesus? It identical to Isis holding baby Horus! Christianity is a bastardized religion made up mostly from other systems of belief. Taking of wine and bread (Druidic), the "Christmas tree" (Druidic), Easter (Ostara, a nordic thing) the list goes on and on.

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Wed 06/01/11 05:18 PM
Its because the galaxy aliens (who pretend to be Gods) have very little imagination. They have to plagiarize everything.




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Wed 06/01/11 05:22 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Wed 06/01/11 05:24 PM
God created EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING , with a hole

in his

soul..in order that he might come to know God.

That includes ALL people .....

even those who lived BEFORE the Word became

Flesh( Jesus=the Word).


Jesus has ALWAYS been....since the BEGINNING....as the WORD...

and therefore

was more than able to reach people who reached up to Him...even

back then.


The similarities are obviously showing us ,

that as men even back then ,sought to know God,

some truths were being revealed to them...

of things to come...

even if they did not get it exactly 100 per cent right.


Regardless of the fact that they might not have had it all 100

percent right....This still was their attempt at

"WANTING TO KNOW GOD".


And I believe God

also reached out to those who were TRULY seeking

Him....even back then.


Since Jesus always WAS, he is/was MORE than able to reach the

people back then..if they TRULY SOUGHT TO KNOW HIM WITH ALL

THEIR HEART.



Again....All those "similarities" , although not 100 per cent

correct,

were still man's attempt at " wanting to know God"....

and again,

that was because

God created a hole in every man's soul..in order that man would

come to know Him .



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Wed 06/01/11 05:35 PM






That's because in Christianities infancy they had to adopt Pagan beliefs in order to convince the Pagans to join the new religion. The old testament begins where Ragnarok ends!


True to a small extent...

While the adoption of Christianity into Roman culture did in fact create a lot of so-called "Christian" traditions and beliefs, there are still people who don't believe those lies...


As for the OT, it's common knowledge for most serious inquirers about the origins of the stories contained in the Torah. Check out PBS.org for the video and/or article about it.


In regards to Norse religion that is exactly what happened, like I said the old testament begins where Ragnarok ends. Ever see a photo of the statue of Mary holding Baby Jesus? It identical to Isis holding baby Horus! Christianity is a bastardized religion made up mostly from other systems of belief. Taking of wine and bread (Druidic), the "Christmas tree" (Druidic), Easter (Ostara, a nordic thing) the list goes on and on.


But I'm a Christian and I know and reject all of these things.
Granted, because of my beliefs, most "Christians" refuse to discuss anything scriptural while most non-Christians try to discuss Christianity assuming I believe and follow all the Pagan idolotry and customs.

Everything you have mentioned above is Pagan, of that I'm sure. The question now becomes whether you can mix Christianity and Paganism and still have Christianity.

If you say "yes", then what religion am I? If you say "no", then which religion are you describing above?



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Wed 06/01/11 05:49 PM
Many of those similarities were not because people wanted to know the so called GOD, but rather the human mind's attempt at rationalizing things that they did not understand. Flat world, center of the universe, Comets are bad mojo.. etc.. this can go on forever.

Example: Many of the similar religious accounts depict the Northern Star due to its brightness in the sky.

And again.. It was their ill attempt at explaining things that are beyond their current understanding of the world.

Scientific discoveries has over and over again, discounted much of the mumbojumbo of the past.

If you are going to say that science doesn't know everything, or unable to discount the unexplainable, then you are correct. But again, throughout the ages as the exponinital growth of technology catches up to "Beyond its time" scientific theories, it has over and over again able to discount mumbojumbo ideologies.

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Wed 06/01/11 05:58 PM







That's because in Christianities infancy they had to adopt Pagan beliefs in order to convince the Pagans to join the new religion. The old testament begins where Ragnarok ends!


True to a small extent...

While the adoption of Christianity into Roman culture did in fact create a lot of so-called "Christian" traditions and beliefs, there are still people who don't believe those lies...


As for the OT, it's common knowledge for most serious inquirers about the origins of the stories contained in the Torah. Check out PBS.org for the video and/or article about it.


In regards to Norse religion that is exactly what happened, like I said the old testament begins where Ragnarok ends. Ever see a photo of the statue of Mary holding Baby Jesus? It identical to Isis holding baby Horus! Christianity is a bastardized religion made up mostly from other systems of belief. Taking of wine and bread (Druidic), the "Christmas tree" (Druidic), Easter (Ostara, a nordic thing) the list goes on and on.


But I'm a Christian and I know and reject all of these things.
Granted, because of my beliefs, most "Christians" refuse to discuss anything scriptural while most non-Christians try to discuss Christianity assuming I believe and follow all the Pagan idolotry and customs.

Everything you have mentioned above is Pagan, of that I'm sure. The question now becomes whether you can mix Christianity and Paganism and still have Christianity.

If you say "yes", then what religion am I? If you say "no", then which religion are you describing above?






Fun Fact to think about:
Opinions:
Almost every so called Christians I've conversed with will have a differing opinion on their beliefs... some of which others of their groups will find blastamists and yet others will agree with.
Opinions on every scriptures; meaning that you would have to decipher it and put your OWN meanings into it. "Well.. to me, this scripture says this" don't tell me you haven't heard of that before.

I thought that book was supposed to be "the be all the ends all."

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Wed 06/01/11 06:00 PM
Actually, True Science and the Bible Agree.


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Wed 06/01/11 06:09 PM

Actually, True Science and the Bible Agree.




Sorry, er.... no they don't.

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Wed 06/01/11 06:57 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Wed 06/01/11 07:02 PM


Actually, True Science and the Bible Agree.




Sorry, er.... no they don't.





Here is just a tiny portion of info , showing how

true science and the bible are finally coming into agreement.



http://www.creationism.org/articles/BibleSci.htm



"Religion can be good when it brings us closer to the truth."

"Science too can be good when it brings us closer to the truth."


I agree with this.
flowerforyou

:heart::heart::heart:


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Wed 06/01/11 07:09 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 06/01/11 07:10 PM
er..sorry that does not prove your statement.


Besides the advanced beings that created mankind (aliens) were very well acquainted with science. They left a lot of knowledge and they were probably some of the beings that wrote scripture.



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Wed 06/01/11 07:13 PM
"Religion can be good when it brings us closer to the truth."

"Science too can be good when it brings us closer to the truth."


If you want truth, look in the mirror.

That is truth.

People are real.


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Wed 06/01/11 07:14 PM

er..sorry that does not prove your statement.


All it proves is the site has a bias to prove the Bible right, so of course according to it, it's gonna be true.

Find me an OBJECTIVE source that proves it true, and then we'll talk.

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Wed 06/01/11 07:56 PM


All it proves is the site has a bias to prove the Bible right, so of course according to it, it's gonna be true.

Find me an OBJECTIVE source that proves it true, and then we'll talk.



You want proof?.. This is your freaking proof!








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Wed 06/01/11 08:05 PM
a STACK OF BIBLES.
rofl rofl rofl

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Wed 06/01/11 08:07 PM

a STACK OF BIBLES.
rofl rofl rofl



lol and I can go one better, which one is accurate? laugh

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Wed 06/01/11 08:14 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Wed 06/01/11 08:19 PM
Sorry.

No go.

Bible translations do NOT take away from the Truth of God's Word.


The Word is translated,so others may better understand.....


but the

TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD REMAINS UNCHANGED.


The Bible has been translated into every language.


Bilbe translators are required to translate the Word

correctly...and careful check is made to be sure of this.


NOW.....IF some however, did attempt to CHANGE God's Word ?


Well....I'll let you go look at the end of last chapter ,

of the book of Revelation in the Bible,

to see what God has to say about that.


It is NOT a good thing to mess with God's Holy Word.


Actually....

GOD IS A BIG ENOUGH GOD

TO KEEP WATCH OVER HIS WORD

AND TO ALSO PRESERVE HIS HOLY WORD.flowerforyou


:heart::heart::heart:

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