If this Washington Post article is to be believed.......chances are good they aren't.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/spy-talk/2010/05/cia_group_had_wacky_ideas_to_d.html

Generally speaking, just for National Security reasons, we are never told the whole truth by the government and never will be.

That's always the excuse though. You realize how they can use that to justify hiding just about anything don't you? There are certain things we have every right to know, and should not be lied to about.

No, actually we don't have a right to know a lot of stuff.

I personally think we know too much when reporters can show up to an invasion before the invasion starts.

Remember Somalia. The news was there with floodlights looking for the Marines to land. They were actually aiding the enemy at that point. fortunately there were none around.

Everyone would have screamed bloody murder if the marines shot out the lights. I am surprised they didn't.

in the information age, is there ANY information that the government could truly just let 'us' know about

in letting 'us' know about it, it generally means letting the WHOLE World(including combatants) know,, and they certainly dont need to know everything we WANT to know

But we do have a right to know do we not?

If you think that, you almost give them license to withhold important things from you.

We have let our government get away with much too much, on the subject of war and many other things as well.

a 'right',, sure if we can find it in the constitution,,otherwise, know,,,we dont have a right to ALL security information,,

,thats why its called SECURITY,, because its supposed to be'secure' and not available to EVERYONE...

The whole problem though is, it can be so very subjective in how it used. They can find and really do in fact find all sorts of reasons to play the security card. It's a way for them to be able to easily cover their ***** IMO.

double post.

Let me put it this way. I really hope the security of our nation is never placed in your hands.

And let me just reply, by saying I think you are a fool.

Think what you want.

I would rather be called a fool than have thousands of soldiers killed over stupidly leaking information.

and so? life is full of risks, dont we risk soldiers lives by having ranks where they have to obey their superiors so unconditionally? isnt that potential for someone to misuse their own authority?

dont we risk childrens lives by legally making their parents responsible for them,, doesnt that open the door for some parents to take advantage of THAT authority?

the possibility of authority being taken advantage of is no reason to result to the extreme of having none,,,


the same is true of 'security'

Very well said.

Just as I'd rather be a fool then allow thousands of soldiers to die for a war that was and is based on lies.

Oh give it a rest.

Congress voted to go to war. They had the same information available as George Bush did. Yes Bush was pushing for the war. But he could not do anything. Congress had to vote and they DID have the same info.

You want to blame someone for going to war, blame the liberal congress in charge of the decision. They cried foul later.

"We were lied to. We didn't know any better."

So, either they are foolish and gullible or they lied to us later. Take your pick.

If you ask me, many of us are foolish and gullible, especially those who seem to think our government is incapable of lying and deceit.

its not that they arent capable of lies or deception, its the scale and complexity and longevity of the lies and eceit that cause them to loose their probability

watergate was busted open fairly quickly,,,something this big,, wouldnt last a decade in this information/ snitch age,,,