Topic: wants to take things slow
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Tue 04/12/11 08:43 PM
So does his religion consider kissing without the benefit of marriage to be a sin or something? If so, I guess maybe that's where he's coming from. Maybe he does love you, but if he's following some strict code of his faith, that explains it.

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Tue 04/12/11 08:46 PM
soufiehere,i know i shouldn't want to kiss people im supposed to be dating how rude of me!

and leighann he kissed me alot the first month he asked me out..

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Tue 04/12/11 08:49 PM
Yeah, I know. I'm just trying to figure out what's going on, you mentioned his religion, so I wondered if that was it. But then, yeah, if it was okay the first month, it should be okay now. I just think he's making up excuses for whatever reasons. That would annoy me.

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Tue 04/12/11 08:53 PM

Yeah, I know. I'm just trying to figure out what's going on, you mentioned his religion, so I wondered if that was it. But then, yeah, if it was okay the first month, it should be okay now. I just think he's making up excuses for whatever reasons. That would annoy me.


well it makes me feel hes not attracted to me it hes not kissing me or holding my hand he doesnt want to have sex until marriage..that great im cool with that it doesnt mean he cant still kiss..

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Tue 04/12/11 08:58 PM
Ugh, I don't know what to tell you. If I were me, I'd just tell him upfront that I'm not getting what I want from the relationship and if he's not willing to change, I'd end it. But that's just me. Life is too short to be unhappy.

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Tue 04/12/11 08:58 PM


Yeah, I know. I'm just trying to figure out what's going on, you mentioned his religion, so I wondered if that was it. But then, yeah, if it was okay the first month, it should be okay now. I just think he's making up excuses for whatever reasons. That would annoy me.


well it makes me feel hes not attracted to me it hes not kissing me or holding my hand he doesnt want to have sex until marriage..that great im cool with that it doesnt mean he cant still kiss..


im not sure but im picking up not only is he feeling insecure
but hes feels ashamed not of you but of himself
where its more like a wake up call for you
where the doors are reopening for a better future
and him telling you that he loves you this soon
that i would think big on that question
he also seem to be some whAt depressed

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Tue 04/12/11 09:01 PM
well i wonder bc hes on permanent disability and hes usually in constant pain and hes only 26

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Tue 04/12/11 09:02 PM

well i wonder bc hes on permanent disability and hes usually in constant pain and hes only 26


Do his lips hurt? I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm serious. He should be able to kiss. And it should make him feel better.

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Tue 04/12/11 09:04 PM


well i wonder bc hes on permanent disability and hes usually in constant pain and hes only 26


Do his lips hurt? I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm serious. He should be able to kiss. And it should make him feel better.


lol that was actually funny!i know im trying not to jump to conclusions but its weird

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Tue 04/12/11 09:06 PM



well i wonder bc hes on permanent disability and hes usually in constant pain and hes only 26


Do his lips hurt? I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm serious. He should be able to kiss. And it should make him feel better.


lol that was actually funny!i know im trying not to jump to conclusions but its weird


Have you asked him why he can't kiss anymore? Because to me, once you cross the friendship barrier, it's rather hard to go back. And I wouldn't want to. And even if he does, it sounds like you don't, so you're going to be unhappy.

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Tue 04/12/11 09:09 PM




well i wonder bc hes on permanent disability and hes usually in constant pain and hes only 26


Do his lips hurt? I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm serious. He should be able to kiss. And it should make him feel better.


lol that was actually funny!i know im trying not to jump to conclusions but its weird


Have you asked him why he can't kiss anymore? Because to me, once you cross the friendship barrier, it's rather hard to go back. And I wouldn't want to. And even if he does, it sounds like you don't, so you're going to be unhappy.


well when he talks to other ppl he always tells them im his girl and he said we are boyfriend g/f but geez its not like im trying to get him naked and **** him im trying to kiss him lol

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Tue 04/12/11 09:12 PM





well i wonder bc hes on permanent disability and hes usually in constant pain and hes only 26


Do his lips hurt? I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm serious. He should be able to kiss. And it should make him feel better.


lol that was actually funny!i know im trying not to jump to conclusions but its weird


Have you asked him why he can't kiss anymore? Because to me, once you cross the friendship barrier, it's rather hard to go back. And I wouldn't want to. And even if he does, it sounds like you don't, so you're going to be unhappy.


well when he talks to other ppl he always tells them im his girl and he said we are boyfriend g/f but geez its not like im trying to get him naked and **** him im trying to kiss him lol


Well, to me talk is cheap. I'd tell him one day to shut up and kiss me, and if he wouldn't, I'd go find someone who would. And you're a strong-willed woman, it's hard for me not to get a guy naked and **** him if I'm into him.laugh

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Tue 04/12/11 09:14 PM






well i wonder bc hes on permanent disability and hes usually in constant pain and hes only 26


Do his lips hurt? I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm serious. He should be able to kiss. And it should make him feel better.


lol that was actually funny!i know im trying not to jump to conclusions but its weird


Have you asked him why he can't kiss anymore? Because to me, once you cross the friendship barrier, it's rather hard to go back. And I wouldn't want to. And even if he does, it sounds like you don't, so you're going to be unhappy.


well when he talks to other ppl he always tells them im his girl and he said we are boyfriend g/f but geez its not like im trying to get him naked and **** him im trying to kiss him lol


Well, to me talk is cheap. I'd tell him one day to shut up and kiss me, and if he wouldn't, I'd go find someone who would. And you're a strong-willed woman, it's hard for me not to get a guy naked and **** him if I'm into him.laugh


haha im definately sexually attracted to him as well but i cant be with someone who doesnt want to kiss me lol

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Tue 04/12/11 09:15 PM
this is what he texted me


Im classy so i will do it when the times right. Plus for a long time ur tooth
hurt and u dont wanna kiss like that do ya i mean

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Tue 04/12/11 10:09 PM

this is what he texted me


Im classy so i will do it when the times right. Plus for a long time ur tooth
hurt and u dont wanna kiss like that do ya i mean


huh? say what
he wouldnt kiss you for your tooth hurt..
well ok but now its a crap of a poor excuse
and so the time was right in the beganing and now its not
i think its time to thrown in the towel
for hes making up nothing but excuses and its wasting your time

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Wed 04/13/11 06:19 AM
How religious is he,
In most churches it is a sin to sleep with someone before you are married, and some people take this very seriously.
Some people believe that kissing can lead to other things and try to stop by not putting themselves in temptations way.
This is a very common thing taught in youth groups, to a lot of christian teeneager to try and keep themselves pure for their husbands or wives.
I have seen this a lot as I spent a lot of years with a religious husband and it is very common, especially for responsible men, he may be a little embarrassed to tell you since you probably dont have the same beliefs.
maybe ifyou asked him if it has anything to do with that and that you would like to talk about it..

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Wed 04/13/11 06:21 AM


this is what he texted me


Im classy so i will do it when the times right. Plus for a long time ur tooth
hurt and u dont wanna kiss like that do ya i mean


huh? say what
he wouldnt kiss you for your tooth hurt..
well ok but now its a crap of a poor excuse
and so the time was right in the beganing and now its not
i think its time to thrown in the towel
for hes making up nothing but excuses and its wasting your time


I agree.

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Wed 04/13/11 06:38 AM



this is what he texted me


Im classy so i will do it when the times right. Plus for a long time ur tooth
hurt and u dont wanna kiss like that do ya i mean


huh? say what
he wouldnt kiss you for your tooth hurt..
well ok but now its a crap of a poor excuse
and so the time was right in the beganing and now its not
i think its time to thrown in the towel
for hes making up nothing but excuses and its wasting your time


I agree.



I wouldnt agree without knowing him, I have some fantastic christian men friends who will not go fast or step anywhere that could get them in trouble.
If he believes in gods word, which is very possible and it is his belief that it is wrong to go to far before marraige then he is going to be very careful.
Especialy if in the beginning you turned him on by him kissingyou, If he is having all the feeling that are normal then he would be very tempted when he kisses you.
If thats the case, then him telling you that he loves you is really serious, its not just a man saying it just to say it. He is looking at you as the person who he will spend his life with.
Now remember I am just putting it from a Mans view who has a strong conviction about God, I could be really wrong and it might be something completely different.
But a man who has commited himself to following Jesus and does not want that sort of intimacy beofre marraige will do exactly what your man is doing, He will see it as respecting you and protecting you both.
So I guess you need to talk to him and find out exactly what his beliefs are, and if he does have very strong beliefs, work out if you can live with them.
The Bible also tells you not to be unequally yoked, so if he follwed that he would be hoping that you are going to go to have the same beliefs as him..
Anyway, I realy have no idea this was just another line of thought, rather than the one that he is not interested.
And really if you marry a man who truly does follow Jesus and is not a hypocrit, you will have a husband that will treat you like a Queen, he will be faithful you wouldnt be sorry, If you loved him.

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Wed 04/13/11 08:05 AM




this is what he texted me


Im classy so i will do it when the times right. Plus for a long time ur tooth
hurt and u dont wanna kiss like that do ya i mean


huh? say what
he wouldnt kiss you for your tooth hurt..
well ok but now its a crap of a poor excuse
and so the time was right in the beganing and now its not
i think its time to thrown in the towel
for hes making up nothing but excuses and its wasting your time


I agree.



I wouldnt agree without knowing him, I have some fantastic christian men friends who will not go fast or step anywhere that could get them in trouble.
If he believes in gods word, which is very possible and it is his belief that it is wrong to go to far before marraige then he is going to be very careful.
Especialy if in the beginning you turned him on by him kissingyou, If he is having all the feeling that are normal then he would be very tempted when he kisses you.
If thats the case, then him telling you that he loves you is really serious, its not just a man saying it just to say it. He is looking at you as the person who he will spend his life with.
Now remember I am just putting it from a Mans view who has a strong conviction about God, I could be really wrong and it might be something completely different.
But a man who has commited himself to following Jesus and does not want that sort of intimacy beofre marraige will do exactly what your man is doing, He will see it as respecting you and protecting you both.
So I guess you need to talk to him and find out exactly what his beliefs are, and if he does have very strong beliefs, work out if you can live with them.
The Bible also tells you not to be unequally yoked, so if he follwed that he would be hoping that you are going to go to have the same beliefs as him..
Anyway, I realy have no idea this was just another line of thought, rather than the one that he is not interested.
And really if you marry a man who truly does follow Jesus and is not a hypocrit, you will have a husband that will treat you like a Queen, he will be faithful you wouldnt be sorry, If you loved him.


I don't have a problem with people who believe in god's word. The problem I have is he started out giving her what she wanted and then he stopped with the excuse that he "wanted to be friends." I don't date my friends, so I don't kiss them, but if I'm dating a guy, I consider kissing a normal part of dating. In my opinion, when the affection stops, it means the guy/girl is over the relationship and it's time to leave.

I agreed about Queene's thought about him playing games and making up excuses because that is how I see his behavior. I don't have time for games and ********, if a guy is over me, it's done, no excuses; there are plenty of others out there who will do what I want in a relationship.

And I don't date religious men, so it's irrelevant how they would treat me because they will never get that opportunity.

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Wed 04/13/11 08:45 AM
Edited by wux on Wed 04/13/11 08:48 AM
No human biological reaction is constant; you blood pressure fluctuates during the day, and so does your body temp.

A man's strength of religious conviction may be fluctuating as well. When he kissed you, he was carefree of God's will and wrath; then his Baptism minister of Family and Sexual affairs talked to him and told him that kissing is fine, but it can lead to dancing, so stop it, boy, before the eternal flames lick your feet and engulf your undying soul.

That's one theory.

Another one is that he has twenty other girlfriends, and he likes your cookies.

A fourth one is that the sex you have is good enough for him, he feels why would or should he put out for more? such as showering you with kisses, or even just with one. (Possible!! An X of mine would give me one kiss every day in the morning when she left for work, and I needed to sit in the dryer for the full cicle to get the slime off me by evaporation.) I don't know how much and what kind of sex you have together, because aside from kissing, you mentioned nothing on the subject of physical intimacy. Everyone assumes there is nothing there, but I, a philosopher, can envision that you story allows very well for the probability of fellatio, anal intercourse, foot fetish, role playing, dressing up like suckling babies, lion taming, cross dressing. There is nothing you said about these, which means nothing - they could be there happening between the two of you or they could be not. There is no way of telling that, except that you did not deny it directly, so the possibilty of their existing is very real.

What you could do is this:

Pray that he change his ways. He is obviously connected to God, and he has most likely a line of communication established with Him already. If you want to get anywhere with this boy, you must petition God to tell the guy to go for it. The best way is to petition God with prayer, but you could also try to bribe God with donaiton to churches, with lighting candles, with selling your soul to God. (There are only two buyers for souls, and apparently God offers a better price, but unfortunately a slower payment schedule. Satan pays immediate cash, but his sales price is a loan, actually, and the interest rates will make you life hell. In fact, no amount of amortization deposits will ever get you out of that debt.)