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I dont want to get too off topic here but everything now is described as a psychological disorder. You are mentally ill with either post-partum depression, addiction or dependency, delusional, bi-polar, manic depressive. . . whatever happened to just being emotional or going through a rough patch in your life. If you have a mid life crisis are you really considered to be a depressed person and labeled the rest or your life? Soooo true... "Mental Illness" has progressed as we've had "cures" (medicine) to treat them. "The cure is worse than the disease" Me.... |
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Its the George Bush drug cartel. They just want to push their prescription drug business. Seriously.
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Its the George Bush drug cartel. They just want to push their prescription drug business. Seriously. I won't argue with you there... Seriously, I've given up all medication since I've been 19... Nicotine and Caffein are the only "drugs" I've taken (except for a 1 week supply of anti-biotics to have a tooth pulled). |
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Help, I'm trapped in a body.
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I don't really take any medicine, including aspirin, unless i am seriously dying. But luckily i have a pretty high pain tolerance.
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Freud was an idiot. Sorry. He was very shallow. Barely touched the surface of the human psyche. A big blahch!! for Freud.   
Where would the field of psychoanalysis be today if it weren't for Freud? Places like the William Alanson White Institute wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Freud. Sándor Ferenczi, Fromm, Thompson, Reichmann... the list goes on and on of people that were influenced by Freud's work.. To say he was an idiot is equivocal to saying Shakespeare was illiterate. I think the field of psychoanalysis would be in a lot better place actually, if it weren't for Freud, but we'll never know will we? It is what it is, and it still hasn't scratched the surface of the human psyche. But that is just my uneducated opinion. Some of the most insane people I have known were psychoanalysts, or psychiatrists. In my home town that I grew up in the head of the State Hospital had his own mental problems and committed suicide. I totally respect medicine and research and the human body and human brain and all that I even wanted to be a psychologist when I left High School but as I get older, I start to lose more and more respect for the field as it seems just a gold mine for professionals to continuously make money off of people by medicating them and charging them to 'talk' to them about their 'illness' and new illnesses seem to develop whenever enough people of an upper class are misbehaving in some way or another,,, it makes more profit to charge them for their medication and sessions and it helps alleviate them from feeling 'shame' or 'guilt' or any of those other terrible feelings of accountability we try to shy away from.... instead of drunks we have alcoholics, instead of druggies we have addicts, instead of tramps we have sexual addictions,,,etc,,etc,,,etc,,, HAHAHAHA LMAO! So very true. That's why I quit studying it. To many excuses, not enough personal responsibility! Personal responsiblity is always much easier to pin on other people than it is to accept on a personal level. The same idividual who preceives the ills of an alcoholic, prostitude, drug addict, the obese, and those who live in poverty, are all subject to internal control - are often the same poeple who will blame the bad outcome of their own choices on something outside their own responsibility. When is the bad outcome of you own choice due to internal or external control, and who are we to determine that an individual's situation in life is solely attributable to their own doing. Is it EGO that prevents poeple from recognizing their own faults or is it EGO that can only recognize the faults inside another? Or is it human nature that gives us those false illusions? Perhaps if more people understood their own actions they would be less likey to think they understand the actions of others. |
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Most individuals feel as though they are faultless. This makes communication almost impossible or fair game which is when judgement comes into play. How can anyone possibly hold a decent conversation with someone as faultless and as intelligent as they are. THE NERVE!
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how do you know you have a cold and are not just imagining it...LOL I am totally kidding. I am not going to kid. When you have a cold, how do you know you don't have 3 or 5 or any number of colds? Not only because it's mine, for other reasons it's also a better question. (I am kidding!! About having a haughty superiority complex.) I am going to kid even less now: About the out-of-body experience: many experimentational studies report that when the subject's brain is stimulated with electrical impulses in the left occipital lobe, the subject experiences a religious trance. These may include: 1. Out of body experiences 2. The sensation of a "presence" in the room 3. Seeing or hearing dead relatives or loved ones and having a mental-emotional connection, real and meaningful In all experiences, the subject is in a dream-like state, but not asleep, and not dreaming. The subject feels at peace and very happy, but this is not pervasively present in each case. The big thing is that this spot is right next to the other spot that is responsible for the function of agression. |
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Most individuals feel as though they are faultless. This makes communication almost impossible or fair game which is when judgement comes into play. How can anyone possibly hold a decent conversation with someone as faultless and as intelligent as they are. THE NERVE! How did you arrive at the consensus that “most individuals feel as though they are faultless”? |
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I know I am responsible for everything in my life. But when something 'bad' (or perceived as bad) happens in my life (nothing ever really bad happens in my life..) but for example if I got a cold or the flu..
People do not 'blame' me. They are quick to permit me to blame it on "the cold season" or on coming in contact with someone else who gave me the germs. But it really is my fault. I didn't wash my hands when I should have, I was careless, I have not taken better care of my immune system, I thought about getting sick too much, I wanted to get sick so I could call off of work... there are countless reasons. But bottom line, its my fault. |
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Its the George Bush drug cartel. They just want to push their prescription drug business. Seriously. omg... weapons, oil, drugs, whats next? i don't like the guy either, but come on now... 
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Its the George Bush drug cartel. They just want to push their prescription drug business. Seriously. omg... weapons, oil, drugs, whats next? i don't like the guy either, but come on now...
In fairness it really wasn't/isn't just him, it's the entire government system as a whole. You can't place it all on one person, it's multiple people doing all the dirty deeds. |
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August 17, 2008 — Your Friend You will find while Eli Lilly and Company is a global pharmaceutical company and one of the world’s largest corporations, they have been in the public eye in more ways than one. From lawsuits involving deaths by their pharmaceuticals to political affiliations with the Bush family. http://psychdrugs.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/eli-lilly-the-maker-of-prozac-zyprexa-strattera-evista-thiomersal-and-xigris/ |
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Most individuals feel as though they are faultless. This makes communication almost impossible or fair game which is when judgement comes into play. How can anyone possibly hold a decent conversation with someone as faultless and as intelligent as they are. THE NERVE! How did you arrive at the consensus that “most individuals feel as though they are faultless”? by taking the number of people I have met over thirty four years and subtracting it by the number of people who were actually sincere and honest....the left overs are the faultless shallow people in the world, which turns out were the majority, not the minority. Ask someone something and they have an excuse to blame it on...or make a mistake in your life and watch them all judge you... |
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Most individuals feel as though they are faultless. This makes communication almost impossible or fair game which is when judgement comes into play. How can anyone possibly hold a decent conversation with someone as faultless and as intelligent as they are. THE NERVE! How did you arrive at the consensus that “most individuals feel as though they are faultless”? by taking the number of people I have met over thirty four years and subtracting it by the number of people who were actually sincere and honest....the left overs are the faultless shallow people in the world, which turns out were the majority, not the minority. Ask someone something and they have an excuse to blame it on...or make a mistake in your life and watch them all judge you... Kinda sounds like consensus by perceived attribution. You make the attribution via your own judgment and then assume you are correct. Of course you are, where you're concerned, but it's not the way most people would want their opinions accounted for. I'm not trying to be direspectful, I am only pointing out one particualar fault that most of us never seem to recognize in ourselves. I didn't until it was brought up to me, just as I'm bringing it up to you. Sometimes we make assumptions about others for our own protection, but we have to recognize when we do that so we don't make the mistake of passing that assumption on to others. |
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Freud was an idiot. Sorry. He was very shallow. Barely touched the surface of the human psyche. A big blahch!! for Freud.
Where would the field of psychoanalysis be today if it weren't for Freud? Places like the William Alanson White Institute wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Freud. Sándor Ferenczi, Fromm, Thompson, Reichmann... the list goes on and on of people that were influenced by Freud's work.. To say he was an idiot is equivocal to saying Shakespeare was illiterate. I think the field of psychoanalysis would be in a lot better place actually, if it weren't for Freud, but we'll never know will we? It is what it is, and it still hasn't scratched the surface of the human psyche. But that is just my uneducated opinion. Some of the most insane people I have known were psychoanalysts, or psychiatrists. In my home town that I grew up in the head of the State Hospital had his own mental problems and committed suicide. I totally respect medicine and research and the human body and human brain and all that I even wanted to be a psychologist when I left High School but as I get older, I start to lose more and more respect for the field as it seems just a gold mine for professionals to continuously make money off of people by medicating them and charging them to 'talk' to them about their 'illness' and new illnesses seem to develop whenever enough people of an upper class are misbehaving in some way or another,,, it makes more profit to charge them for their medication and sessions and it helps alleviate them from feeling 'shame' or 'guilt' or any of those other terrible feelings of accountability we try to shy away from.... instead of drunks we have alcoholics, instead of druggies we have addicts, instead of tramps we have sexual addictions,,,etc,,etc,,,etc,,, HAHAHAHA LMAO! So very true. That's why I quit studying it. To many excuses, not enough personal responsibility! Personal responsiblity is always much easier to pin on other people than it is to accept on a personal level. The same idividual who preceives the ills of an alcoholic, prostitude, drug addict, the obese, and those who live in poverty, are all subject to internal control - are often the same poeple who will blame the bad outcome of their own choices on something outside their own responsibility. When is the bad outcome of you own choice due to internal or external control, and who are we to determine that an individual's situation in life is solely attributable to their own doing. Is it EGO that prevents poeple from recognizing their own faults or is it EGO that can only recognize the faults inside another? Or is it human nature that gives us those false illusions? Perhaps if more people understood their own actions they would be less likey to think they understand the actions of others. I agree, including those in the field of psychology as it stands, I feel it has just become easier to make decisions and behaviors a result of some mysterious 'genetic' disposition than to allow and encourage people to ACCEPT the control they do have over their own actions and behaviors,,, |
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I know I am responsible for everything in my life. But when something 'bad' (or perceived as bad) happens in my life (nothing ever really bad happens in my life..) but for example if I got a cold or the flu.. People do not 'blame' me. They are quick to permit me to blame it on "the cold season" or on coming in contact with someone else who gave me the germs. But it really is my fault. I didn't wash my hands when I should have, I was careless, I have not taken better care of my immune system, I thought about getting sick too much, I wanted to get sick so I could call off of work... there are countless reasons. But bottom line, its my fault. hey jeannie 
honestly , I dislike even using terms like FAULT and BLAME,, as they put such an automatically negative spin on things I do believe strongly that we are RESPONSIBLE, I have even posted before how I took RESPONSIBILITY for the choice that lead to be in a situation where I was sexually assaulted,,, I did not use the sense I should have and decided to go into a situation I KNEW was a risk It wasnt my FAULT the creep assaulted me, but I certainly accepted my responsibilities in the CIRCUMSTANCES that made it possible I think many of the psychological 'illnesses' diagnosed are suspect, firstly because their manifestation seems to be diagnosed as illnesses much more often in certain classes , whereas other classes are permanently labeled and even incarcerated for those same manifestations secondly because , instead of merely suggesting a correlation between choices and 'medical' or 'psychological' conditions, the mere diagnosis often serves to completely eliminate any suggestion of CHOICE,, to make the victimizer who is 'ill' often unable to be repremended or corrected because they 'cant help it' I understand the balance between circumstance and choice and how the two elements are different in everyones life, making everyone have a different experience,,,, I understand we are not perfect, none of us But there is a problem when some in society have to be held accountable to their behaviors, and others can find some correlation with physical or emotional or mental condition and automatically receive a pass from being held to that same accountability Im all for compassion and understanding imperfection, I dont expect people to be perfect, but if you are an 'alcholic' , for instance, that doesnt mean that once you are drunk and tear up someones property,,you deserve a special sympathy for your ILLNESS, because being aware of how the illness manifests, you are still RESPONSIBLE for making the choice to be in a high risk situation and environment in which you became DRUNK if you are 'depressed', for instance, that doesnt mean that you can INTENTIONALLy lash out at everyone around you and they should accept it willingly because of your condition If you have kleptomania, that doesnt mean you no longer should be held responsible for replacing my items that you stole we all have illnesses, we all have SOME TYPE of conditions that the medical world could find a correlation to use for labeling , but there are far too many of them now that are just rather outrageous in my opinion and go too far down the road of alleviating some from their personal responsibility (to be translated, consequences of their CHOICES) and replace it instead with a type of social quarantine that makes them off limits to any type of accountability whatsoever,,, |
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Most individuals feel as though they are faultless. This makes communication almost impossible or fair game which is when judgement comes into play. How can anyone possibly hold a decent conversation with someone as faultless and as intelligent as they are. THE NERVE! How did you arrive at the consensus that “most individuals feel as though they are faultless”? by taking the number of people I have met over thirty four years and subtracting it by the number of people who were actually sincere and honest....the left overs are the faultless shallow people in the world, which turns out were the majority, not the minority. Ask someone something and they have an excuse to blame it on...or make a mistake in your life and watch them all judge you... Kinda sounds like consensus by perceived attribution. You make the attribution via your own judgment and then assume you are correct. Of course you are, where you're concerned, but it's not the way most people would want their opinions accounted for. I'm not trying to be direspectful, I am only pointing out one particualar fault that most of us never seem to recognize in ourselves. I didn't until it was brought up to me, just as I'm bringing it up to you. Sometimes we make assumptions about others for our own protection, but we have to recognize when we do that so we don't make the mistake of passing that assumption on to others. I live in an extremely populated area, i handle my statistics no different than any other researcher who polls x amount of people, would you say 1 in 4 girls are going to experience sexual assualt or do you think that poll is based on one persons opinion...when you gather the results of x amount you come up with valid statistics, unless you of course are interviewing paper dolls. . .i however am from LOS ANGELES, CA where there is no shortage of people to interact and interview... I never stated I am faultless, i was just pointing out a common misnomer in society. People are not faultless, and they should not blame their "addictions" and their "actions" on every psychological disorder or prescription drug they are given. |
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I know I am responsible for everything in my life. But when something 'bad' (or perceived as bad) happens in my life (nothing ever really bad happens in my life..) but for example if I got a cold or the flu.. People do not 'blame' me. They are quick to permit me to blame it on "the cold season" or on coming in contact with someone else who gave me the germs. But it really is my fault. I didn't wash my hands when I should have, I was careless, I have not taken better care of my immune system, I thought about getting sick too much, I wanted to get sick so I could call off of work... there are countless reasons. But bottom line, its my fault. hey jeannie
honestly , I dislike even using terms like FAULT and BLAME,, as they put such an automatically negative spin on things I do believe strongly that we are RESPONSIBLE, I have even posted before how I took RESPONSIBILITY for the choice that lead to be in a situation where I was sexually assaulted,,, I did not use the sense I should have and decided to go into a situation I KNEW was a risk It wasnt my FAULT the creep assaulted me, but I certainly accepted my responsibilities in the CIRCUMSTANCES that made it possible I think many of the psychological 'illnesses' diagnosed are suspect, firstly because their manifestation seems to be diagnosed as illnesses much more often in certain classes , whereas other classes are permanently labeled and even incarcerated for those same manifestations secondly because , instead of merely suggesting a correlation between choices and 'medical' or 'psychological' conditions, the mere diagnosis often serves to completely eliminate any suggestion of CHOICE,, to make the victimizer who is 'ill' often unable to be repremended or corrected because they 'cant help it' I understand the balance between circumstance and choice and how the two elements are different in everyones life, making everyone have a different experience,,,, I understand we are not perfect, none of us But there is a problem when some in society have to be held accountable to their behaviors, and others can find some correlation with physical or emotional or mental condition and automatically receive a pass from being held to that same accountability Im all for compassion and understanding imperfection, I dont expect people to be perfect, but if you are an 'alcholic' , for instance, that doesnt mean that once you are drunk and tear up someones property,,you deserve a special sympathy for your ILLNESS, because being aware of how the illness manifests, you are still RESPONSIBLE for making the choice to be in a high risk situation and environment in which you became DRUNK if you are 'depressed', for instance, that doesnt mean that you can INTENTIONALLy lash out at everyone around you and they should accept it willingly because of your condition If you have kleptomania, that doesnt mean you no longer should be held responsible for replacing my items that you stole we all have illnesses, we all have SOME TYPE of conditions that the medical world could find a correlation to use for labeling , but there are far too many of them now that are just rather outrageous in my opinion and go too far down the road of alleviating some from their personal responsibility (to be translated, consequences of their CHOICES) and replace it instead with a type of social quarantine that makes them off limits to any type of accountability whatsoever,,, Yes I agree with what you are saying. The words "fault" and "blame" are harsh and inappropriate I think. I used them here for emphasis. Too many people don't want to be responsible to the point where they actually believe they are innocent victims when they clearly did participate in the events, even if unknowingly. Others definitely do appear to be innocent victims but don't realize that they were still playing a part in the circumstance. Causality is so very intricate down to the quantum level that there is no way of knowing the answer to the "why" bad thing happen to innocent or good people. That is why people will call it "God's will" because it is simply a matter of universal law, and sometimes the cause is unknowable. |
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I know I am responsible for everything in my life. But when something 'bad' (or perceived as bad) happens in my life (nothing ever really bad happens in my life..) but for example if I got a cold or the flu.. People do not 'blame' me. They are quick to permit me to blame it on "the cold season" or on coming in contact with someone else who gave me the germs. But it really is my fault. I didn't wash my hands when I should have, I was careless, I have not taken better care of my immune system, I thought about getting sick too much, I wanted to get sick so I could call off of work... there are countless reasons. But bottom line, its my fault. well said hey jeannie
honestly , I dislike even using terms like FAULT and BLAME,, as they put such an automatically negative spin on things I do believe strongly that we are RESPONSIBLE, I have even posted before how I took RESPONSIBILITY for the choice that lead to be in a situation where I was sexually assaulted,,, I did not use the sense I should have and decided to go into a situation I KNEW was a risk It wasnt my FAULT the creep assaulted me, but I certainly accepted my responsibilities in the CIRCUMSTANCES that made it possible I think many of the psychological 'illnesses' diagnosed are suspect, firstly because their manifestation seems to be diagnosed as illnesses much more often in certain classes , whereas other classes are permanently labeled and even incarcerated for those same manifestations secondly because , instead of merely suggesting a correlation between choices and 'medical' or 'psychological' conditions, the mere diagnosis often serves to completely eliminate any suggestion of CHOICE,, to make the victimizer who is 'ill' often unable to be repremended or corrected because they 'cant help it' I understand the balance between circumstance and choice and how the two elements are different in everyones life, making everyone have a different experience,,,, I understand we are not perfect, none of us But there is a problem when some in society have to be held accountable to their behaviors, and others can find some correlation with physical or emotional or mental condition and automatically receive a pass from being held to that same accountability Im all for compassion and understanding imperfection, I dont expect people to be perfect, but if you are an 'alcholic' , for instance, that doesnt mean that once you are drunk and tear up someones property,,you deserve a special sympathy for your ILLNESS, because being aware of how the illness manifests, you are still RESPONSIBLE for making the choice to be in a high risk situation and environment in which you became DRUNK if you are 'depressed', for instance, that doesnt mean that you can INTENTIONALLy lash out at everyone around you and they should accept it willingly because of your condition If you have kleptomania, that doesnt mean you no longer should be held responsible for replacing my items that you stole we all have illnesses, we all have SOME TYPE of conditions that the medical world could find a correlation to use for labeling , but there are far too many of them now that are just rather outrageous in my opinion and go too far down the road of alleviating some from their personal responsibility (to be translated, consequences of their CHOICES) and replace it instead with a type of social quarantine that makes them off limits to any type of accountability whatsoever,,, Yes I agree with what you are saying. The words "fault" and "blame" are harsh and inappropriate I think. I used them here for emphasis. Too many people don't want to be responsible to the point where they actually believe they are innocent victims when they clearly did participate in the events, even if unknowingly. Others definitely do appear to be innocent victims but don't realize that they were still playing a part in the circumstance. Causality is so very intricate down to the quantum level that there is no way of knowing the answer to the "why" bad thing happen to innocent or good people. That is why people will call it "God's will" because it is simply a matter of universal law, and sometimes the cause is unknowable. |
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