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Topic: Out of Body experience..
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Tue 03/29/11 07:33 PM
Out of Body experience..
What do you think it is?

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Tue 03/29/11 07:41 PM
well
you have a outer body experience if you have a nde

you also can have one if you tend to go deep into meditation

i have a friend while in high school she remember lying down but she didnt recall falling asleep and she stated she saw her body floating

you can actually have many outer body experience but many dont recall

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Tue 03/29/11 07:45 PM

Out of Body experience..
What do you think it is?



A "dream"...

Queene123's photo
Tue 03/29/11 07:48 PM


Out of Body experience..
What do you think it is?



A "dream"...


some may think that
but in reality its not

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Tue 03/29/11 07:49 PM

Life can also be a kind of dream. Maybe it is.

I have experienced out of body experiences, dreams and this reality.

They all have different properties.


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Tue 03/29/11 08:03 PM
I think there is a difference between out of body experience and a dream of feeling like you are floating inside your body above ground and looking down at the planet.

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Tue 03/29/11 08:12 PM

Dreams and Out of body experiences are closely related though. I was dreaming about flying and I decided to fly higher and higher and soon I was out in space.

The dream became a very lucid dream. A lucid dream is one where you know you are dreaming but it is also one that becomes more clear and more real.

When a dream becomes as real as waking reality, then how can you tell the difference?

It makes you wonder about "reality."

Totage's photo
Tue 03/29/11 08:15 PM

Out of Body experience..
What do you think it is?


I've had several. Seems to be a spiritual journey.

Queene123's photo
Tue 03/29/11 08:19 PM
when my son had a nde over 3yrs ago
he was in the hospitol for 3weeks

but he had a outerbody experience for he saw the knife as he put it
where his chest cafator was set in his chest for dialysis
my son was not aware of anyof this while he was awake for we had almost lost him as he was on lifesupport for aweek.. i couldnt stand seeing him that way and i wanted to pull the plug. which they told me to see and wait a week and see what would happen next.. he came around about 3-4days later

Queene123's photo
Tue 03/29/11 08:20 PM


Out of Body experience..
What do you think it is?


I've had several. Seems to be a spiritual journey.


its ment to be a spiritual journey

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Tue 03/29/11 08:22 PM
I beleive there is a difference in lucid dreams, also astral projection where meditation is involved and out of body experiences, however out of body experiences i think you do at some point will witness your actual body giving you confirmation of your reality.

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Tue 03/29/11 08:24 PM

I beleive there is a difference in lucid dreams, also astral projection where meditation is involved and out of body experiences, however out of body experiences i think you do at some point will witness your actual body giving you confirmation of your reality.



I believe "reality" is as hoax....

We are limited in our perception and "reality" is 100% truth...



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Tue 03/29/11 08:37 PM
i am very aware of my surroundings...really. If i pick up a jelly bean in my hand then i know for real, there is a jelly bean in my hand. If I stick my hands into the toilet and pull them out and let them dry. I know there are germs on my hand....If I sneeze and have the flu and dont tell you and rub my hand across your face and dip my fingers in your drink, suppose you get the flu...but you say, you couldn't see the germs on my hand...did they still exist...in reality, microscopes were invented for a reason, sometimes real can not be seen.....does not make it unreal...

But back on topic....OBE, if you were not there then dont judge...

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Tue 03/29/11 08:51 PM

i am very aware of my surroundings...really. If i pick up a jelly bean in my hand then i know for real, there is a jelly bean in my hand. If I stick my hands into the toilet and pull them out and let them dry. I know there are germs on my hand....If I sneeze and have the flu and dont tell you and rub my hand across your face and dip my fingers in your drink, suppose you get the flu...but you say, you couldn't see the germs on my hand...did they still exist...in reality, microscopes were invented for a reason, sometimes real can not be seen.....does not make it unreal...

But back on topic....OBE, if you were not there then dont judge...



i agree

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Tue 03/29/11 08:58 PM


I beleive there is a difference in lucid dreams, also astral projection where meditation is involved and out of body experiences, however out of body experiences i think you do at some point will witness your actual body giving you confirmation of your reality.



I believe "reality" is as hoax....

We are limited in our perception and "reality" is 100% truth...





So is reality a hoax or 100% truth?? what

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Tue 03/29/11 09:40 PM



Out of Body experience..
What do you think it is?


I've had several. Seems to be a spiritual journey.


its ment to be a spiritual journey


I have read reports that state they have found that sometime when death actually happens that the brain produces a chemical that is the same when you enter REM sleep.. The scriptures also suppport this as death is refered to as sleep in many places.. Blessings..Miles

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Tue 03/29/11 10:01 PM
I imagine remote viewing could be considered a type of out of body experience.
At any rate I have always found it interesting and I've followed it since 'before' computers (old fashion research methods).

Below are some new methods - links that some find interesting.


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vision_remota/esp_visionremota_6.htm
CIA-Initiated
…Remote Viewing At Stanford research Institute

by H. E. Puthoff, Ph.D.
1996
Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin
4030 Braker Lane W., #300
Austin, Texas 78759-5329
from MindControlForums Website

Abstract
In July 1995 the CIA declassified, and approved for release, documents revealing its sponsorship in the 1970s of a program at Stanford Research Institute in Menlo Park, CA, to determine whether such phenomena as remote viewing "might have any utility for intelligence collection" [1].

Thus began disclosure to the public of a two-decade-plus involvement of the intelligence community in the investigation of so-called parapsychological or psi phenomena.

Presented here by the program’s Founder and first Director (1972 - 1985) is the early history of the program, including discussion of some of the first, now declassified, results that drove early interest.



http://www.homesecurity.us/articles/a-timeline-of-us-research-into-remote-viewing.html

www.homesecurity.us © 2009

A Timeline of U.S. Research Into Remote Viewing

September 1971 – Cleve Baxster and Ingo Swann begin researching telekinesis.

November 1971 – Swann participates in telekinesis and out-of-body experience experiments in Gertrude Schmeidler’s lab.

December 1971 – The term “remote viewing” is coined following an experiment describing the weather in Tucson, AZ from the American Society for Psychical Research (ASPR) offices in New York.

February 1972 – The first beacon experiments are conducted at the ASPR offices.

June 1972 – Swann and Puthoff conduct a quark-detector and magnetometer experiment at Stanford University.

June 1972 – Puthoff reports the findings of the experiment at Stanford University to Kit Green of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). They name their remote viewing organization the Stanford Research Institute (SRI).

August 1972 – Puthoff supervises the CIA’s first evaluation trials.

October 1972 – The CIA awards Swann and Puthoff $50,000 to continue their research.

July 1973 – Swann, along with Pat Price, remote view the National Security Agency’s (NSA) facility in West Virginia.

July 1974 – Price conducts another remote viewing operation on a facility in the USSR.

October 1974 – An article is published in Nature by Russell Targ and Puthoff concerning remote viewing.

July 1975 – The CIA terminates their funding of research into remote viewing.

September 1975 – The Air Force Foreign Technology Division begins funding Puthoff and Targ’s research, hiring Dale Graff to supervise.

March 1976 – Targ and Puthoff publish another article on their research in Proceedings of IEEE.

1977 – Targ and Puthoff publish a book entitled Mind Reach.

June 1977 – The Mobius Group is founded and they begin conducting a submarine remote viewing experiment known as Project Deepquest with Stephan Schwartz.

September 1977 – The Army begins conducting their own remote viewing experiments, calling the program Gondola Wish.

July 1978 – The Army changes the name of their program from Gondola Wish to Grill Flame.

January 1979 – The Army selects remote viewers for Grill Flame. They chose six people, including Ken Bell, Joe McMoneagle and Mel Riley.

September 1979 – The Army performs its first operational remote viewing session.

March 1979 – The Grill Flame remote viewers work with Dale Graff and correctly locate a downed Soviet aircraft from Wright-Patterson AFB.

1979-1981 – Schwartz conducts a remote viewing of an archaeology project in Egypt, naming it the Alexandria Project and later publishing a book on the viewing.

1980 – The Air Force cancels its remote viewing program and Dale Graff becomes the staff officer for the remote viewing projects conducted by the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA).

December 1982 – the US Army changes its remote viewing project’s name again, this time to Center Lane.

January 1984 – The Army begins training their second group of remote viewers, including Bill Ray, Charlene Chavanaugh and Ed Dames.

1984 – Targ and Keith Harary publish a book entitled Mind Race.
July 1984 – Following a change of command in the Army, the Center Lane project is closed and transferred to the DIA along with its personnel.

1985-1986 – Schwartz conducts an underwater archaeology project known as the Caravel Project.

January 1986 – The DIA takes formal control of Center Lane and renames it Sun Streak.

1987 – Schwartz conducts another underwater archaeology project known as the Brig Leander Project.

1990 – Dale Graff takes control of the remote viewing project, renaming it Stargate.

June 1993 – Dale Graff retires.
1994 – The Federal budget transfers control of Stargate from the DIA to the CIA.

1995 – Congress directs the CIA to look into remote viewing as an intelligence tool.

1995 - The American Institute of Research conducted a study and concluded that remote viewing had no value as an intelligence tool.

June 1995 – The CIA cancels Stargate, reassigning the five remaining personnel to other government jobs.

November 1995 – The television show Nightline airs an expose on the government’s research into remote viewing, interviewing Robert Gates, Dale Graff, Edwin May and Joe McMoneagle.

February 1997 – Schnabel publishes the book Remote Viewers: The Secret History of America’s Psychic Spies.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project

Stargate Project, a series of remote viewing experiments performed by the CIA from 1972 to 1995




http://www.irva.org/remote-viewing/history.html
IRVA International Remote Viewing Association
The History of Remote Viewing?

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Wed 03/30/11 07:01 AM
That's pretty impressive Di.

Thanks for the links.

I'll be remote seeing you!bigsmile :wink:

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Wed 03/30/11 09:46 AM

That's pretty impressive Di.

Thanks for the links.

I'll be remote seeing you!bigsmile :wink:


cute. Don't get too close - you might remotely uptake my cold germs.

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Wed 03/30/11 10:13 AM
how do you know you have a cold and are not just imagining it...LOL I am totally kidding.

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