Topic: I just took a tour of propaganda.
AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 03/05/11 12:20 AM
Here is what I learned.

If you frequent socialist sites... They all claim to be winning the fight... They all claim to be fighting the good fight. They all claim to be 'representative' of the MAJORITY of people in the US of A.

If you frequent 'left leaning' sites... They all claim to be winning the fight... They all claim to be fighting the good fight. They all claim to be 'representative' of the MAJORITY of the people in the US of A.

if you frequent 'right leaning' sites.. DITTO AS ABOVE.

If you frequent 'anarchist' sites... they seem to think they also 'represent' the 'majority'... they claim that america is 'waking' up TO THEIR MESSAGE.

if you frequent Union sites... They also claim to be wining the fight... (with a button to donate)... Then they tell you where to go to 'join' the fight (with a button to donate)... They also feel that they are 'fighting the good fight'. They are full of propaganda about the 'evil' corporations.

If you frequent Corporate sites... they are just full of propaganda about how good their company is... how green their company has become... and where you can apply for work. (no politics, how refreshing).

if you frequent Democratic sites... They claim to be wining the fight... they claim to be fighting the good fight (oh and they represent the majority also)... they have buttons to donate, voluenteer for phone banks, send mass emails to all Representatives and Senators on various subjects and such.

if you frequent Republican sites... The claim to be wining the fight... Claim to be fighting the good fight (and they also believe they represent the majority)... With buttons to donate, volunteer for phone banks, send mass emails to all Reps and Senators, etc...

So then what the heck do you think all these 'Perfect' little groups are going to do...

when their 'bubbles of dreams' get popped?

No wonder this country is having such a hard time comming to grips with its own poopstorm...

Every one has the 'right' soapbox...

and no one is listening.

GravelRidgeBoy's photo
Sat 03/05/11 12:27 AM
Have you consider the idea of the "majority" being a bunch of wishy-washy people who would jump on any bandwagon going by?...lol. So maybe each party believes that they have the majority of the people but the majority is signed up for all the parties...lol

If you do not stand for anything you will likely fall for everything.

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 03/05/11 03:28 PM
Actually I consider the 'Majority' to be something none of these 'groups' understand...

Which is why these groups are 'suprised' when the real 'majority' stands up and hands them their hat in an election.

(I notice that the 'extremes' on here sure don't want to reply to this... It pops their individual 'balderdash' bubbles).

no photo
Sat 03/05/11 03:37 PM
Edited by artlo on Sat 03/05/11 03:53 PM
It just isn't an interesting topic. You 33 percenters believe that you are on a roll because the Democrats stayed home in 2010. We Progressives believe that we are at a turning point, partly because we are taking note of how poorly Scott walker is doing in the polls. This article is from Newsmax, which I believe is somehow affiliated with Rupert Murdoch Enterprises. [Rasmussen consistently has a rightwing bias).

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/scott-walker-approval-rating/2011/03/05/id/388458



Good luck with your research!

msharmony's photo
Sat 03/05/11 04:12 PM
to clarify,,,,

majority: a number or percentage equaling more than half of a total <a majority of voters> <a two-thirds majority>
b : the excess of a majority over the remainder of the total : margin <won by a majority of 10 votes>
c : the greater quantity or share <the majority of the time>


of course, webster sure forces us to see how complex our words are,,,,

the quantity over fifty percent is one type of majority BUT

the GREATER quantity would also include a situation where there were THREE or more groups, none being more than fifty percent, but one certainly being in the MAJORITY


but the majority that matters, is tha majority vote,,,well , sometimes,,,LOL

no photo
Sat 03/05/11 04:59 PM
Great post. Very funny too.

I think the majority don't pay too much attention and don't think they can do much about it.

There seems to be a human inclination to join some cause or fight. I think people do it for a sense of belonging to a group and feeling good about themselves.

They like to hear that they are right and that they are winning. That is the reason for the propaganda.






AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 03/05/11 08:25 PM
Artlo stated...

"It just isn't an interesting topic. You 33 percenters believe that you are on a roll because the Democrats stayed home in 2010."

Balderdash...

MIDTERM voter turnout in 2010 was HIGHER than it has been in decades... (for a mid term election)

With Democratic turn out at 41 percent. (traditionally in the 30% range for mid terms)

and Rebublican turn out at 42.1 percent. (traditional around 39 to 40% range)

The real diference in the mid terms was the unexpected turn out of independants (which is usually very low in mid terms). Indpendents turned out in a 1 to 4 ratio with the majority of them voting for 'republican' canditates... and on exit polls most of them stated that they did so because they were supporting the 'tea party' ideals.

The propaganda about Democrat turn out was garnered by taking a few areas (like pitsburg) that had a lowere turnout... and projecting that to a national level...

However when you get the ACTUAL national numbers it shows a far diferent story.

Urban areas nation wide showed a HIGHER democratic turnout than is normal for a midterm.

BY THE WAY...

I am not a 33 percenter...

I am simply 1% of the American experiance...

I will allways exercise that 1%....
amazing how much of a diference 1% can make when there are a lot of us.


gc49's photo
Sat 03/05/11 08:36 PM
the problem is from an outsiders point of view is its just 2 parties the same ole **** and both are almost the same thats it

need a new system and more parties to shake them both up but they won t allow it they have it too easy just wipe them all out at some point in the future

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 03/05/11 08:43 PM
From the 'point of view' of the members of each party (and indeed some of the politicians) the system works...

Problem is that BOTH parties now have people in them that are CAREER POLITICIANS first and party politicians second...

Those career politicians scratch each others backs so they can maintain their personal 'dynasties'...

In so doing they bypass the 'voters' within their individual 'face' party...

(although they have no problem using those voters)

There is colusion between some factions within those parties that occurs behind the scenes.

msharmony's photo
Sat 03/05/11 09:02 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 03/05/11 09:03 PM
I think political lables are over stated. A more telling factor, for me, is not what percentage of people that are 'registered' as democrat or republican voted(because people dont vote STRICTLY on what party they registered with)


but, fewer minorities and young people voted, and more white folks did


its just an interesting tidbit, as much a correlation as how many democrats and republicans voted,,,but I think its more telling,,,

btw, I think its more a matter of who stayed home than who voted, but of course, the more who stay home, the more powerful the vote of those who didnt,,,

msharmony's photo
Sat 03/05/11 09:14 PM
...was gonna wait for adventure to type that word again,,lol


anyhow, feel free to disregard the last post, Im kind of tired and Im gonna get a refresher and bbl


flowerforyou

no photo
Sat 03/05/11 09:41 PM
You are correct. The people who put Democrats in power in 2008 were young people and blacks. The young people vote was off 60% from 2008.

Looking at the events in Wisconsin, I doubt that will be the case in 2012.

Simonedemidova's photo
Sat 03/05/11 09:51 PM
I dont vote, does that make me an Anarchist??? LOL

AdventureBegins's photo
Sun 03/06/11 12:36 AM

You are correct. The people who put Democrats in power in 2008 were young people and blacks. The young people vote was off 60% from 2008.

Looking at the events in Wisconsin, I doubt that will be the case in 2012.

Perhaps you should visit some of the social sites (not twitter) where young people 'hang' out...

You might be suprised at how many of them RESENT they way they were used in Wisconsin...

Our young folks are not as stupid as people believe...