Topic: Who is real, Blk Men or Women?
Chazster's photo
Mon 02/21/11 07:58 PM

My "ex" is Chinese. Asians have some small issues, but nothing fatal if it works with your personality.


Yea he said Asians have some small issues. He wasn't referring to his family but the actual group.

IndnPrncs's photo
Mon 02/21/11 08:00 PM


My "ex" is Chinese. Asians have some small issues, but nothing fatal if it works with your personality.


Yea he said Asians have some small issues. He wasn't referring to his family but the actual group.


Perhaps he mis-spoke but again I'm not in his head.. I would just hope that one wouldn't generalize in such a way.... Don't take it personally though..

Chazster's photo
Mon 02/21/11 08:00 PM
Edited by Chazster on Mon 02/21/11 08:01 PM
double post.

Chazster's photo
Mon 02/21/11 08:01 PM

So thats enough to classify all the asian ethnic groups?
Dunno. That's enough to suspect about my ex's family and the hundreds of other Chinese we knew. I can tell that you want to make my comment an issue of bigotry. Have it your way.


But again thats only Chinese. What about Japanese, Vietnamese, Korean, Lao, Indonesian, Taiwanese, Filipino, Thai, etc.

Chazster's photo
Mon 02/21/11 08:03 PM



My "ex" is Chinese. Asians have some small issues, but nothing fatal if it works with your personality.


Yea he said Asians have some small issues. He wasn't referring to his family but the actual group.


Perhaps he mis-spoke but again I'm not in his head.. I would just hope that one wouldn't generalize in such a way.... Don't take it personally though..


I was just curious what he meant as I could have possibly known more asians than him and possibly from more diverse backgrounds I was curious on his opinion or if he misspoke. I was giving him an opportunity to clarify himself without accusing him of anything but allow him to see how his post could be viewed.

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Mon 02/21/11 08:07 PM
Aren't the Japanese kind of famous for their superiority complex? It probably isn't true, but i wouldn't know. The same seems to be true of Koreans from what I read, but I have known quite a number of Koreans who don't seem to be that way. My experience with the VietNamese is there is a complex neurosis among many of them, probably an aftermath of our wonderful adventure in their country.

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Mon 02/21/11 08:11 PM
See how once you got in this there is no way out. and say I'm sorry my Bad.

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Mon 02/21/11 08:13 PM
You got that right. My bad.

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Mon 02/21/11 08:27 PM
Edited by Chazster on Mon 02/21/11 08:28 PM

Aren't the Japanese kind of famous for their superiority complex? It probably isn't true, but i wouldn't know. The same seems to be true of Koreans from what I read, but I have known quite a number of Koreans who don't seem to be that way. My experience with the VietNamese is there is a complex neurosis among many of them, probably an aftermath of our wonderful adventure in their country.


With the Japanese culture it is not so much about your ethnicity but about how you assimilate into the group. For example if you are Japanese but born in another country you are not part of the group. I have even been told if you go abroad and learn to speak English very well you may be considered foreign upon your return. So it is about being Japanese but in the sense of the identity and not the ethnicity.

This again isn't all of the Japanese people.

Really my whole point was you should use a quantifier. Some Asians have issues would have been appropriate. But I have time to kill and this approach was more entertaining. rofl

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Mon 02/21/11 08:39 PM
Somehow I think this thread got offtopic Let's support/debate the OP's OP...

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Mon 02/21/11 08:58 PM
Somehow I think this thread got Let's support/debate the OP's OP...
Yeah! Yeah! I'm all about that.

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Mon 02/21/11 10:15 PM

Aren't the Japanese kind of famous for their superiority complex? It probably isn't true, but i wouldn't know. The same seems to be true of Koreans from what I read, but I have known quite a number of Koreans who don't seem to be that way. My experience with the VietNamese is there is a complex neurosis among many of them, probably an aftermath of our wonderful adventure in their country.



Past experience, if you show proper manners usually an Asian of any culture will overlook people of other heritages. I was dating a Japanese girl who when her parents met me got an attitude since i was not Japanese. I have run across Indians (dotted) with total attitude problem as well as some Persians who managed to piss me off with their "I'm better than you" attitude. They come in all flavors. Hell, some Chinese look down their noses politely at anyone else who is not PURE Canton Chinese.

Then again I have ran across "Americans" who really found my goat easily with their "I'm better Than You" attitude.

And by the way Vietnam has been picked on by EVERYBODY! They are sweating invasion by China actually these days! Think I am kidding?

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Tue 02/22/11 12:05 AM
although the op is black and posting about his experience with black women, its really not a racially specific issue.

People like who they like and want what they want. I imagine older women who take care of themselves and those who take care of children want a man who is not going to be another responsibility.


Likewise, men who have been taking care of themself dont want a 'nagging' wife or mother type. It goes both ways.


Its usually about being at a similar place in your life. Someone who has done the work and provided their own needs probably is more interested in another person at that same point in their life than someone they will have to also lift up to being self sufficient.

its just compatibility, if you find you and someone else arent compatible, just move on,,try not to generalize so or take it so personal

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Tue 02/22/11 09:47 AM

People like who they like and want what they want. I imagine older women who take care of themselves and those who take care of children want a man who is not going to be another responsibility.



And these same women expect a "partner after the fact" (the man who becomes involved with a woman who already has kids) to absorb ALL of the responsibility for a child or children that are not theirs! That is pure bull since they are putting responsibilities not of teh man upon their partner. Men with children act differently in that men who do raise their own generally will not put the responsibility on others! Not true in ALL cases but true in most!


Its usually about being at a similar place in your life. Someone who has done the work and provided their own needs probably is more interested in another person at that same point in their life than someone they will have to also lift up to being self sufficient.


And yet the real fact is that the mathematical chances of someone being on the same level as one is financially is staggeringly against! I came across this before. This thinking is also total BULL! I have been involved with women with no job and others with a job. Worst is when a woman suddenly is the greater bread winner and suddenly the man has to make more becasue she feels so. Success does not come to people at the same time. If she is "financially stable" but he is busting his azz to get ahead and she is mad at that SHE is at fault! it shows people do not share success! Suddenly HE becomes worthless to her and she seeks out the "better man" based on wallet size! I see this way too often.

Fact: MOST people are just fuqued up self indulgent shitte heads.

FACT: FAMILY VALUES AS WE KNOW THEM HAVE BEEN DESTROYED!

msharmony's photo
Tue 02/22/11 12:30 PM


People like who they like and want what they want. I imagine older women who take care of themselves and those who take care of children want a man who is not going to be another responsibility.



And these same women expect a "partner after the fact" (the man who becomes involved with a woman who already has kids) to absorb ALL of the responsibility for a child or children that are not theirs! That is pure bull since they are putting responsibilities not of teh man upon their partner. Men with children act differently in that men who do raise their own generally will not put the responsibility on others! Not true in ALL cases but true in most!


Its usually about being at a similar place in your life. Someone who has done the work and provided their own needs probably is more interested in another person at that same point in their life than someone they will have to also lift up to being self sufficient.


And yet the real fact is that the mathematical chances of someone being on the same level as one is financially is staggeringly against! I came across this before. This thinking is also total BULL! I have been involved with women with no job and others with a job. Worst is when a woman suddenly is the greater bread winner and suddenly the man has to make more becasue she feels so. Success does not come to people at the same time. If she is "financially stable" but he is busting his azz to get ahead and she is mad at that SHE is at fault! it shows people do not share success! Suddenly HE becomes worthless to her and she seeks out the "better man" based on wallet size! I see this way too often.

Fact: MOST people are just fuqued up self indulgent shitte heads.

FACT: FAMILY VALUES AS WE KNOW THEM HAVE BEEN DESTROYED!


who mentioned the same financial level? I only mentioned being at a similar point. How often will someone want to REPEAT the work they have done for themself with someone else?

I am not talking about making the same amount of money, I am talking about being similarly independent. I am talking about someone who is going to be an ASSET to what is already there and not another burden.

Having kids has alot of responsibility attached; financial and emotional

Single parents of both genders take it all on, BUT , USUALLY, once single parents become a couple they no longer have to take it ALL ON by themself, so Im not sure what responsibility you are talking about putting on others.

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Tue 02/22/11 12:36 PM
And these same women expect a "partner after the fact" (the man who becomes involved with a woman who already has kids) to absorb ALL of the responsibility for a child or children that are not theirs!
It's a personal choice to get involved in this type of relationship. I know it may soud cold and like a real mood-killer, but these things need to be cards-on-the-table right up front.

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Tue 02/22/11 12:41 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 02/22/11 12:45 PM

And these same women expect a "partner after the fact" (the man who becomes involved with a woman who already has kids) to absorb ALL of the responsibility for a child or children that are not theirs!
It's a personal choice to get involved in this type of relationship. I know it may soud cold and like a real mood-killer, but these things need to be cards-on-the-table right up front.



I actually prefer a guy with kids, its always an upfront deal. As a single parent, I think it takes another single parent to truly UNDERSTAND and RESPECT whats involved as opposed to feeling jealous or underappreciated like a single person without kids might come to feel when sharing the 'attention'.


Also because I will never be pregnant again and wouldnt ever want to be what kept someone else from having kids in the future 'of their own'.

Some people are good with kids, regardless of the biology, thats why we have so many adoptions. I like that kind of guy, who steps up to share the adult responsibilities in our home and to be a role model for our children.I think its just more likely to find that partner in someone who already has accepted those types of responsibilities.

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Tue 02/22/11 01:06 PM



People like who they like and want what they want. I imagine older women who take care of themselves and those who take care of children want a man who is not going to be another responsibility.



And these same women expect a "partner after the fact" (the man who becomes involved with a woman who already has kids) to absorb ALL of the responsibility for a child or children that are not theirs! That is pure bull since they are putting responsibilities not of teh man upon their partner. Men with children act differently in that men who do raise their own generally will not put the responsibility on others! Not true in ALL cases but true in most!


Its usually about being at a similar place in your life. Someone who has done the work and provided their own needs probably is more interested in another person at that same point in their life than someone they will have to also lift up to being self sufficient.


And yet the real fact is that the mathematical chances of someone being on the same level as one is financially is staggeringly against! I came across this before. This thinking is also total BULL! I have been involved with women with no job and others with a job. Worst is when a woman suddenly is the greater bread winner and suddenly the man has to make more becasue she feels so. Success does not come to people at the same time. If she is "financially stable" but he is busting his azz to get ahead and she is mad at that SHE is at fault! it shows people do not share success! Suddenly HE becomes worthless to her and she seeks out the "better man" based on wallet size! I see this way too often.

Fact: MOST people are just fuqued up self indulgent shitte heads.

FACT: FAMILY VALUES AS WE KNOW THEM HAVE BEEN DESTROYED!


who mentioned the same financial level? I only mentioned being at a similar point. How often will someone want to REPEAT the work they have done for themself with someone else?

I am not talking about making the same amount of money, I am talking about being similarly independent. I am talking about someone who is going to be an ASSET to what is already there and not another burden.

Having kids has alot of responsibility attached; financial and emotional

Single parents of both genders take it all on, BUT , USUALLY, once single parents become a couple they no longer have to take it ALL ON by themself, so Im not sure what responsibility you are talking about putting on others.


Same point or financial level, same difference!

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Tue 02/22/11 02:29 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 02/22/11 02:33 PM




People like who they like and want what they want. I imagine older women who take care of themselves and those who take care of children want a man who is not going to be another responsibility.



And these same women expect a "partner after the fact" (the man who becomes involved with a woman who already has kids) to absorb ALL of the responsibility for a child or children that are not theirs! That is pure bull since they are putting responsibilities not of teh man upon their partner. Men with children act differently in that men who do raise their own generally will not put the responsibility on others! Not true in ALL cases but true in most!


Its usually about being at a similar place in your life. Someone who has done the work and provided their own needs probably is more interested in another person at that same point in their life than someone they will have to also lift up to being self sufficient.


And yet the real fact is that the mathematical chances of someone being on the same level as one is financially is staggeringly against! I came across this before. This thinking is also total BULL! I have been involved with women with no job and others with a job. Worst is when a woman suddenly is the greater bread winner and suddenly the man has to make more becasue she feels so. Success does not come to people at the same time. If she is "financially stable" but he is busting his azz to get ahead and she is mad at that SHE is at fault! it shows people do not share success! Suddenly HE becomes worthless to her and she seeks out the "better man" based on wallet size! I see this way too often.

Fact: MOST people are just fuqued up self indulgent shitte heads.

FACT: FAMILY VALUES AS WE KNOW THEM HAVE BEEN DESTROYED!


who mentioned the same financial level? I only mentioned being at a similar point. How often will someone want to REPEAT the work they have done for themself with someone else?

I am not talking about making the same amount of money, I am talking about being similarly independent. I am talking about someone who is going to be an ASSET to what is already there and not another burden.

Having kids has alot of responsibility attached; financial and emotional

Single parents of both genders take it all on, BUT , USUALLY, once single parents become a couple they no longer have to take it ALL ON by themself, so Im not sure what responsibility you are talking about putting on others.


Same point or financial level, same difference!


not quite from my perspective anyhow

someone who is independent making 40,000 a year, who takes care of themselves and their financial obligations (like say a teacher)

in my perspective

would be at the same point (in their life) as someone who took care of themself and their financial obligations making 70,000 per year(like say a ceo)

its not likely someone who had done the work to become independently living as a teacher would want to take on someone who was still having their bills paid or laundry done by their parents,,,,,

similarly, someone who had done the maturing necessary to be responsible for someone else (like say a responsible single parent) might not wish to take on someone who was still in a stage of life that was all about them (like say a 'player',,,)


or that someone who had done the work to become 'self sufficient' would wish to regress back to waiting on someone who still had work to do,,,,

there are many examples of being at the same point in life that arent about a specific income amount at all...

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Tue 02/22/11 05:57 PM





People like who they like and want what they want. I imagine older women who take care of themselves and those who take care of children want a man who is not going to be another responsibility.



And these same women expect a "partner after the fact" (the man who becomes involved with a woman who already has kids) to absorb ALL of the responsibility for a child or children that are not theirs! That is pure bull since they are putting responsibilities not of teh man upon their partner. Men with children act differently in that men who do raise their own generally will not put the responsibility on others! Not true in ALL cases but true in most!


Its usually about being at a similar place in your life. Someone who has done the work and provided their own needs probably is more interested in another person at that same point in their life than someone they will have to also lift up to being self sufficient.


And yet the real fact is that the mathematical chances of someone being on the same level as one is financially is staggeringly against! I came across this before. This thinking is also total BULL! I have been involved with women with no job and others with a job. Worst is when a woman suddenly is the greater bread winner and suddenly the man has to make more becasue she feels so. Success does not come to people at the same time. If she is "financially stable" but he is busting his azz to get ahead and she is mad at that SHE is at fault! it shows people do not share success! Suddenly HE becomes worthless to her and she seeks out the "better man" based on wallet size! I see this way too often.

Fact: MOST people are just fuqued up self indulgent shitte heads.

FACT: FAMILY VALUES AS WE KNOW THEM HAVE BEEN DESTROYED!


who mentioned the same financial level? I only mentioned being at a similar point. How often will someone want to REPEAT the work they have done for themself with someone else?

I am not talking about making the same amount of money, I am talking about being similarly independent. I am talking about someone who is going to be an ASSET to what is already there and not another burden.

Having kids has alot of responsibility attached; financial and emotional

Single parents of both genders take it all on, BUT , USUALLY, once single parents become a couple they no longer have to take it ALL ON by themself, so Im not sure what responsibility you are talking about putting on others.


Same point or financial level, same difference!


not quite from my perspective anyhow

someone who is independent making 40,000 a year, who takes care of themselves and their financial obligations (like say a teacher)

in my perspective

would be at the same point (in their life) as someone who took care of themself and their financial obligations making 70,000 per year(like say a ceo)

its not likely someone who had done the work to become independently living as a teacher would want to take on someone who was still having their bills paid or laundry done by their parents,,,,,

similarly, someone who had done the maturing necessary to be responsible for someone else (like say a responsible single parent) might not wish to take on someone who was still in a stage of life that was all about them (like say a 'player',,,)


or that someone who had done the work to become 'self sufficient' would wish to regress back to waiting on someone who still had work to do,,,,

there are many examples of being at the same point in life that arent about a specific income amount at all...


You are taking this point to the most extreme angles you can go to!

There is a difference between a panty waste looser who lives with mommy and daddy vs. someone with a life. You want an extreme, hell lets get extreme. How ludicrous is it for someone no name no body like me to become involved with a celebrity? I live a private life, a celebrity lives in the public eye. I would not want to live in the public eye. Likewise where one person has money flowing to them I have to fight for every dollar! Want to talk about a weird situation or extremes, here you go! Now if she really wanted to be with me BOTH of us would have to adapt. If I was the ONE person on this planet she trusted and I lived my life to uphold that trust but I still was having a hell of a time making money the adaptation would be she would subsidize me. But again there would have to be a performance standard on my end to uphold her trust.

But what does trust matter to someone who has money now? Sorry but there is a huge hole in your stand! On top of that people change and worst is the changes women make when they get older. The older a women gets the more control hungry they get and that is a generalization I WILL STICK BY! Not every woman is control hungry but still this is one generalization I will stick by since I have lived it! I am hesitant to date women over 30. my cut off age is 35. I will date women around 30 but my days of women my age and older women are OVER! I want a serious relationship with room to grow. Not one where I have to wear a leash or lead someone around! Not one where I have to be Mr. Perfect, not one where I have to fit social expectation. Us men need recognition too but lately we seem to not get a whole hell of a lot of that. Worst is this whole combativeness between men and women is such BULLSHITTE to me! Cottontails of any gender SUCK SO HARD THEY SWALLOW! I have my ideas and I have my standards as well like anyone else. I would love to find the perfect woman for me but...

I wish in one hand and shitte in the other which one will fill up first????

:banana:

And there in lies the root of my personal frustration!

:banana:

And I am done compromising!