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anyone know anything about turbo's ?
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I know they're inefficient and run hot. And you only get real substantial torque in the higher RPMs. If you want real power from the bottom end up... Get a supercharger, or blower.
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I know they're inefficient and run hot. And you only get real substantial torque in the higher RPMs. If you want real power from the bottom end up... Get a supercharger, or blower. Wrong. Turbocharging is the next best thing to free horsepower. A blower or supercharger takes some of the engines power to turn it, creating a parasitic loss. A turbocharger's turbine impeller is driven off of hot expanding exhaust gasses. A turbo will spool up and produce higher boost due to its linear pressure curve instead of at a fixed rate that is proportional to engine speed like a crank driven supercharger is. |
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I know they're inefficient and run hot. And you only get real substantial torque in the higher RPMs. If you want real power from the bottom end up... Get a supercharger, or blower. Wrong. Turbocharging is the next best thing to free horsepower. A blower or supercharger takes some of the engines power to turn it, creating a parasitic loss. A turbocharger's turbine impeller is driven off of hot expanding exhaust gasses. A turbo will spool up and produce higher boost due to its linear pressure curve instead of at a fixed rate that is proportional to engine speed like a crank driven supercharger is. And you'll be constantly replacing piston rings, and fuel pumps, rebuilding heads, and all kinds of overworked, and cooked parts due to the immense heat, regardless of intercooler systems. Not to mention no bottom end torque. |
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Edited by
wraithme66
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Tue 01/11/11 11:02 PM
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oops...
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I know they're inefficient and run hot. And you only get real substantial torque in the higher RPMs. If you want real power from the bottom end up... Get a supercharger, or blower. Wrong. Turbocharging is the next best thing to free horsepower. A blower or supercharger takes some of the engines power to turn it, creating a parasitic loss. A turbocharger's turbine impeller is driven off of hot expanding exhaust gasses. A turbo will spool up and produce higher boost due to its linear pressure curve instead of at a fixed rate that is proportional to engine speed like a crank driven supercharger is. And you'll be constantly replacing piston rings, and fuel pumps, rebuilding heads, and all kinds of overworked, and cooked parts due to the immense heat, regardless of intercooler systems. Not to mention no bottom end torque. Wrong again. I've seen plenty of factory turbo cars go 100,000+ miles of reliable service. If you dont know how to build an engine to live under boost conditions, your supercharged engine will suffer all the same symptoms. |
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Edited by
Riding_Dubz
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Wed 01/12/11 06:56 AM
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I got a mustang and they got this these turbo kits for around 1000$ there 76mm turbro's front mont down pipe return lines everything
IM wondering if i get my motor redone and maybe did the rear end if id be alright or if id have to do buncha other crap motor wise to ? input would be greatly appreciated im told a factory 5.0 bottom em is awesome for factory ?? |
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speed is just a question of money dubz, how fast do you want to go
if you are redoing your motor, the machine shop should be able to answer your questions on what you would need to be able to handle the turbo. plenty of aftermarket parts are available for 302 liter V8 mustangs. gearing the rear end is expensive, but an awesome way to get the car to get off the line quickly. gas mileage will suffer, so if your 'stang is a daily driver, consider getting two different sets of tires. small ones for quick races, and larger ones for everyday driving |
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Edited by
Riding_Dubz
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Wed 01/12/11 04:22 PM
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i forgot to mention i just put a dual force center friction clutch in it to im told it's capable of carrying quite the load
I only drive it a handfull of times a year im was trying to do this most cost efficiently as possible i use to be in a mustang club but i haven't talked any them people for years that's another thing it's on 20's wonder if it's gonna squat so hard it'll start eating tires but they are 245/35/20's so i doubt it ultimately this is my goal  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDp-SbfNWDo&feature=player_embedded |
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Edited by
NINERSLEAFFAN
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Wed 01/12/11 06:31 PM
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My .02
Forced induction is not cheap done properly period, 302's great for turbo/supercharging, generally have a low compression bottom end 9.0:1, great ratio for safely adding boost. Have you considered just replacing the heads keep it naturally asperated? That + your rear end upgrade may be satisfying? and good chance least amount of cash? here's a example on the how's and where to spend your$. http://www.mustangandfords.com/techarticles/engine/28898_400_hp_302_small_block/index.html Watched the youtube yea that's sick but $$$$$$$$ running 30psi of boost witha 363 block.... nothin stock about that. |
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I thought about doing heads cam intake balance blue printed but everyone has that done
i wanna be like i got twin turbo's  |
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actually it sounds like you already know what you want. if you like sick turbo power, trade your mustang for a buick grand national
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buick on 24s
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I thought about doing heads cam intake balance blue printed but everyone has that done i wanna be like i got twin turbo's Yup, we all do. Whatever you budget...double & add half, will probably be close to final cost (usually works out that way), & all said n done, it won't matter what it cost the second ur in the middle of the biggest burnout of your life, 
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Yup, we all do. Whatever you budget...double & add half, will probably be close to final cost (usually works out that way), & all said n done, it won't matter what it cost the second ur in the middle of the biggest burnout of your life, thank you sounds like some good advice i was kinda thinking double cause one thing always leads to another
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My .02 Forced induction is not cheap done properly period, 302's great for turbo/supercharging, generally have a low compression bottom end 9.0:1, great ratio for safely adding boost. Have you considered just replacing the heads keep it naturally asperated? That + your rear end upgrade may be satisfying? and good chance least amount of cash? here's a example on the how's and where to spend your$. http://www.mustangandfords.com/techarticles/engine/28898_400_hp_302_small_block/index.html Watched the youtube yea that's sick but $$$$$$$$ running 30psi of boost witha 363 block.... nothin stock about that. I had a 5.0 that I stroked to a 347 with ROUSH 351 heads and popup pistons... I was running alcohol NA. It was the all around best thing I could think of for real substantial gains without any maintenance. My compression was waay up there too. |
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