When you die do you die?

If you are not living life are you dead?

If you are living life death is not important.

life is.

enjoy it.

amen, life is the most valuable thing ever. There's not enough money on the earth that can buy a life. It's priceless, enjoy it.

Your body will go back to the earth, but your soul is immortal it will go back to God.

depends on your beliefs, if you have no belief most religions seem to think you just cease.

CowboyGH wrote:






thats not true .. money can buy you life - doctors , meds , care etc .etc...

AdventureBegins wrote:







Dies only our body ...our true personality aka "soul" is immortal and we back again and again until we get all lessons here in the Earth "packing" in different bodies

There is no logic to live so short and to be dead forever.
If we face the facts we gonna see that all in this world /visible and invisible/ subordinate to an amazing logic...
and there is no way our life to end so meaningless

that's not true. Money can buy you something to repair yourself in this life, but it can not originally buy the life.

CowboyGH wrote:






Without this "repair" we call ppl "dead".

Yes but money didn't originally by that life, so therefore the money never bout you any life. Merely repaired your body to possibly lengthen that life.

And besides all that, if God said it was your time, no money in the world could keep you here.

CowboyGH wrote:



No one need to buy life but to keep it in health this one ...
and for that we need money

Interesting and especially when we begin comparing what people have to say.

Chocolina writes:


There is even a certain logic that Chocolina applies to support the idea:



But that is not a complete thought process because the logic that supports the inference is incomplete. WHY is it meaningful for an individual soul to continue to be ‘re-born’ or ‘re-incarnated’ on this Earth?

What is being benefited and/or whom is being benefited by our continued return into this, or any other, physical life-form?


NEXT:

Cowboy writes:



Chocolina responds:


Cowboy replies:


I have to ask – how do you know we don’t pay to have this life? If we are what Chocolina believes we are, then how can either of you know that in some other plane in which our ‘personality/soul’ exists we haven’t paid some fee to have this life -- kind of like an extended carnival ride.

Either way – if the physical form ceases to exist then much of who and what we think we are, including much of our personality, would die with the physical form because who we are, how we act, and even how and what we think are directly related to our physical experiences in this body.

Take away the body that our personality developed in and we have no frame of reference regarding this one existence. The fact that we don’t remember being any other person (with some other personality that formed in another form or forms) seems to indicate that we are newly developed and will cease to exist when the body ceases to exist.

I admit that my logic is based on nothing – literally. In other words, there are no scientific theories that extend beyond the death of our physical form – therefore, I think the body ceases to exist.

Others prefer to believe that our intellect makes us so much more important within the universe that we must continue to exist beyond the physical. Some believe it would be meaningless for such a wondrous creature as humans to live like any other life form and then cease to exist in the same manner.

I, on the other hand, do not see humans as that wondrous of a creature. Nothing in all the data we have amassed in the time that we have existed as human on this planet – suggests to me, that we proceed in our everyday lives in any manner that is better than any other animal that has ever populated this Earth.

So I would suggest that if anyone wants to believe that humans have some eternal quality, that they might consider that we pay some over-rated fee to gain entry into this carnival ride and perhaps the fail safe to exit the ride prior to its completion - is suicide.

So what do you all think about that?

Who said that God is responsible and determinate the time of our life ?

I think if that is your belief that you are at peace with, there is nothing else to say about it and peace be with you.

mortal life matters only in the blink of an eye that we are 'mortals'

in the absence of MERE mortality, eternity matters more


I think I will enjoy my mortal life and make it important as a precursor to my eternity

Redykeulous wrote:







That's the biggest mystery of our creation . There are many teachings and speculations abt this " why " we are here.
I can say only the idea which I get it like more logical for me .
The main idea is that each "soul/individuality" back here again and again because of the main aim - reaching the full harmony with the universe - spirit "soul"

I'd not tell details because all this is out of the topic








This is the best answer to all your questions here :

"I, on the other hand, do not see humans as that wondrous of a creature."

Because of this we gonna back again and again till we reach this crystal harmony /budhists call it nirvana or to became a budha/ and to join the cosmic "soul" one

We did not create ourselves but were created.This life is a test for the life hereafter.The Soul only taste death and lives eternely.So do good in this world so that the creator will give us a better hereafter.

If there is no better life after death then why follow good morals.We can all become thieves and rapists etc!
there is a purpose in life.Read the Quran the speech of the Creator.

well santa says to be good for goodness sake

we arent saved by works ALONE and there is an inherent value in THIS life to being as 'good' as you can

Born once, die twice.

Born twice, live forever.

Well that doesn't make much sense. From what I understand of all the Judeo-Chriatian religions is that no human is without sin and there is only one sin that is worse than any other.

So in fact WE ARE all thieves and rapists among a number of other bad things. No one is moral because of their beliefs - they only try to be.

It's also presumptuous to think that a believer is any more moral than a non-believer, we simply have different morals and different reasons for the morals we have.

Finally if the best reason for believing in a god is so that we can believe in our eternal existance, then it might pay to consider the catch 22 of the Jeannie in the bottle. We can wish for anything we want however, the conditions under which the wish comes true might not be what we expect or would want.