Topic: NYC Sanitation workers are guilty of manslaughter
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Fri 12/31/10 07:12 PM
NY Gov Calls for Probe After Workers Say Union Sabotaged Snow Removal

Gov. Paterson calls for snow slowdown probe

An investigation! Into what, they were just doing their jobs!!! laugh

Sanitation Crew Crushes SUV While Freeing Snow Plow

Who cares? The morons will keep their job and that's what's important. Tax payers won't mind replacing the truck.

Meet The Hundreds Of NYC Sanitation Workers Who Earn Over $100,000

Oh! Those poor underpaid babies, no wonder they were striking.

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Fri 12/31/10 07:13 PM

I think you have just reached a new level of ignorance, as well as insensitivity and down right stupidity. To compare an accident during a blizzard to the intentional rape of a woman has to be one of the most ridiculous comments I have ever heard. I thought this was a rational conversation with differing opinions but now I realize I was having a conversation with a complete a$$. Crawl back under whatever rock you came from.


The incident stopped being an accident, the moment they choose to hit the car again. The trucks "owner's" wife was present, you can hear her telling on the video. Maybe she could have gotten the keys and moved the car? Nah!

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Fri 12/31/10 07:14 PM

i'll let you figure that out on your own... property damage vrs rape?...try agian


I didn't say the two crimes were equal, I was making the point that both were intentional crimes. The damage to the car stopped being an "accident", when they decided not to stop.

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Fri 12/31/10 07:17 PM


I think you have just reached a new level of ignorance, as well as insensitivity and down right stupidity. To compare an accident during a blizzard to the intentional rape of a woman has to be one of the most ridiculous comments I have ever heard. I thought this was a rational conversation with differing opinions but now I realize I was having a conversation with a complete a$$. Crawl back under whatever rock you came from.


The incident stopped being an accident, the moment they choose to hit the car again. The trucks "owner's" wife was present, you can hear her telling on the video. Maybe she could have gotten the keys and moved the car? Nah!


I refuse to have a battle of wits with someone who is so obviously unarmed. frustrated frustrated

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Fri 12/31/10 07:19 PM


i'll let you figure that out on your own... property damage vrs rape?...try agian


I didn't say the two crimes were equal, I was making the point that both were intentional crimes. The damage to the car stopped being an "accident", when they decided not to stop.


so the city is going to prosecute itself? if the city takes its own loss, it is not a crime... if the city decides to go after him, which they won't, then it would be a crime. but look at the video, if that tractor was stuck, do you really think they coulda got the truck out of the way? they needed the tractor way more than they needed the truck...

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Fri 12/31/10 07:19 PM

I refuse to have a battle of wits with someone who is so obviously unarmed. frustrated frustrated



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Fri 12/31/10 07:20 PM



i'll let you figure that out on your own... property damage vrs rape?...try agian


I didn't say the two crimes were equal, I was making the point that both were intentional crimes. The damage to the car stopped being an "accident", when they decided not to stop.


so the city is going to prosecute itself? if the city takes its own loss, it is not a crime... if the city decides to go after him, which they won't, then it would be a crime. but look at the video, if that tractor was stuck, do you really think they coulda got the truck out of the way? they needed the tractor way more than they needed the truck...


Maybe they could do something crazy, like hiring a private company to do the sanitation, so that there would be a legal recourse when lazy, overpaid morons refuse to do their job?

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Fri 12/31/10 07:22 PM
Edited by Spidercmb on Fri 12/31/10 07:25 PM
I would plow the streets or return the snowplow, but I'm just so sleepy. So sleep...


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Fri 12/31/10 07:30 PM


I refuse to have a battle of wits with someone who is so obviously unarmed. frustrated frustrated





I see a clip from your favorite TV show. Perhaps one day Mommy will let you move out of the basement and your eyes will open to what life in the real world is like. Until then keep reading the headlines and accept whatever is written as gospel.

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Fri 12/31/10 07:39 PM

I see a clip from your favorite TV show. Perhaps one day Mommy will let you move out of the basement and your eyes will open to what life in the real world is like. Until then keep reading the headlines and accept whatever is written as gospel.


If you were involved in that strike, you might want to watch this movies, so you know what's coming.


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Fri 12/31/10 07:44 PM


I see a clip from your favorite TV show. Perhaps one day Mommy will let you move out of the basement and your eyes will open to what life in the real world is like. Until then keep reading the headlines and accept whatever is written as gospel.


If you were involved in that strike, you might want to watch this movies, so you know what's coming.




squeal boy! squeal like a little pig! haha

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Fri 12/31/10 10:31 PM

I would plow the streets or return the snowplow, but I'm just so sleepy. So sleep...





It's usually better to sleep in the cabin After a long night of plowing. I do it sometimes

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Fri 12/31/10 11:11 PM
I will be honest and say right off the bat...

I didn't read the article listed here

BUT

I know what I am seeing on the news and pictures my nephew is sending me, of streets in Queens that are STILL not plowed out from the snowstorm last week. People living on these streets say the plows start to turn down the block, back the truck up and leave, without plowing a thing. On ABC news tonight, they showed streets that 4X4's are still getting stuck on because of the snow.

Whatever is going on, those people should be able to get their cars out by now and they can't. Some places in Queens have had to clear out their streets on their own, only using shovels due to the lack of plows coming through the area. Not to mention the business owners who are told they will have to pay a fine if they don't shovel the sidewalks....only to have the sanitation trucks push six foot high piles of snow back onto them.

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Sat 01/01/11 04:41 PM

I will be honest and say right off the bat...

I didn't read the article listed here

BUT

I know what I am seeing on the news and pictures my nephew is sending me, of streets in Queens that are STILL not plowed out from the snowstorm last week. People living on these streets say the plows start to turn down the block, back the truck up and leave, without plowing a thing. On ABC news tonight, they showed streets that 4X4's are still getting stuck on because of the snow.

Whatever is going on, those people should be able to get their cars out by now and they can't. Some places in Queens have had to clear out their streets on their own, only using shovels due to the lack of plows coming through the area. Not to mention the business owners who are told they will have to pay a fine if they don't shovel the sidewalks....only to have the sanitation trucks push six foot high piles of snow back onto them.


Eileena9,

Thanks for your response. This is being taken seriously by nearly everyone, with notable exclusions being those people on this website who think that it's okay if someone's refuses to do their GOVERNMENT JOB (THAT THEY ARE HANDSOMELY PAID TO DO), which results in deaths.

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Sun 01/02/11 01:38 AM

I would plow the streets or return the snowplow, but I'm just so sleepy. So sleep...




Detroit Could Collect Savings from Privatized Garbage Pickup


There is a large and growing body of empirical research showing the substantial savings cities can achieve by either outsourcing garbage collection or getting out of the business altogether. The largest study ever conducted on outsourced garbage collection, conducted by the federal government in the 1970s, reported 29 to 37 percent savings in cities with populations over 50,000. A 1994 study by the Reason Foundation discovered that the city of Los Angeles was paying about 30 percent more for garbage collection than its surrounding suburbs, in which private waste haulers were employed. A 1982 study of city garbage collection in Canada discovered an astonishing 50 percent average savings as a result of privatization.


WHAT! You mean we can pay people 29 to 37% less to sleep in their snow plows?!? Where can we sign up?

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Sun 01/02/11 10:07 AM
Edited by Bestinshow on Sun 01/02/11 10:08 AM


I will be honest and say right off the bat...

I didn't read the article listed here

BUT

I know what I am seeing on the news and pictures my nephew is sending me, of streets in Queens that are STILL not plowed out from the snowstorm last week. People living on these streets say the plows start to turn down the block, back the truck up and leave, without plowing a thing. On ABC news tonight, they showed streets that 4X4's are still getting stuck on because of the snow.

Whatever is going on, those people should be able to get their cars out by now and they can't. Some places in Queens have had to clear out their streets on their own, only using shovels due to the lack of plows coming through the area. Not to mention the business owners who are told they will have to pay a fine if they don't shovel the sidewalks....only to have the sanitation trucks push six foot high piles of snow back onto them.


Eileena9,

Thanks for your response. This is being taken seriously by nearly everyone, with notable exclusions being those people on this website who think that it's okay if someone's refuses to do their GOVERNMENT JOB (THAT THEY ARE HANDSOMELY PAID TO DO), which results in deaths.
Its more like most people are reasonable and are waiting for real evidence this happened, realy two guys who wont give their names claim its so so it is so? again I wait for the jury to be out. to me it smells like another well reaserchedlaugh propaganda -fox news story.

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Sun 01/02/11 10:22 AM

Its more like most people are reasonable and are waiting for real evidence this happened, realy two guys who wont give their names claim its so so it is so? again I wait for the jury to be out. to me it smells like another well reaserchedlaugh propaganda -fox news story.


Five guys, including two supervisors, whose identities haven't been made public, because they fear retaliation.

But who is counting?

Oh, I don't have cable, so you can't blame fox news. The last time I checked, the New York Post wasn't a branch of Fox.

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Sun 01/02/11 10:26 AM
Edited by Bestinshow on Sun 01/02/11 10:29 AM


Its more like most people are reasonable and are waiting for real evidence this happened, realy two guys who wont give their names claim its so so it is so? again I wait for the jury to be out. to me it smells like another well reaserchedlaugh propaganda -fox news story.


Five guys, including two supervisors, whose identities haven't been made public, because they fear retaliation.

But who is counting?

Oh, I don't have cable, so you can't blame fox news. The last time I checked, the New York Post wasn't a branch of Fox.
So basicly its a he said she said, good luck with that in court. I cant see working myself up over a story like this. It belongs in the fiction section. I am suprised the Post would print a story so lacking in facts. I think their is a term for it, its called "Yellow Journalism".

The old Post hasnt been the same since Rupert Murdoch purchased it.

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Sun 01/02/11 11:48 AM

So basicly its a he said she said, good luck with that in court. I cant see working myself up over a story like this. It belongs in the fiction section. I am suprised the Post would print a story so lacking in facts. I think their is a term for it, its called "Yellow Journalism".

The old Post hasnt been the same since Rupert Murdoch purchased it.


Journalists normally require two or more anonymous sources to run with a story. Five sources, which aren't anonymous (to the reporters or city council) is more than enough to run a story.

And the fact that the State of New York is going to investigate, makes it sound like it's enough for them too.

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Sun 01/02/11 12:10 PM


So basicly its a he said she said, good luck with that in court. I cant see working myself up over a story like this. It belongs in the fiction section. I am suprised the Post would print a story so lacking in facts. I think their is a term for it, its called "Yellow Journalism".

The old Post hasnt been the same since Rupert Murdoch purchased it.


Journalists normally require two or more anonymous sources to run with a story. Five sources, which aren't anonymous (to the reporters or city council) is more than enough to run a story.

And the fact that the State of New York is going to investigate, makes it sound like it's enough for them too.
Please keep us posted I await the facts. Keep in mind though Bloomburg runs a massive media conglomerate. Ruport Murdoch owns the Post and Fox news. I think more blame lies with the massive layoffs of city workers rather than some Union slowdown.

Mayor Bloomberg himself claimed NY was fine and all the Broadway shows were open? I am rather confused.


NYC Mayor “Deal With It” Bloomberg reacted to Blizzageddon 2010, which left many wondering just what city he thinks he’s living in. He told reporters:

“The world has not come to an end. The city is going fine, Broadway shows were full last night. There are lots of tourists here enjoying themselves. Two people told me they went to the theater last night and afterwards tried to get into a restaurant and there was a waiting list. I think the message is, ‘The city goes on.’”

He added to the Daily News, “Many people are taking the day off. Most stores are open. There’s no reason for anybody to panic.”

http://matzav.com/bloomberg-city-doing-fine-if-you-ignore-unplowed-streets