LIE #8: "Our conservative estimate is that Iraq today has a stockpile of between 100 and 500 tons of chemical weapons agent. That is enough to fill 16,000 battlefield rockets." -- Secretary of State Colin Powell, Feb. 5 2003, in remarks to the UN Security Council.

FACT: Putting aside the glaring fact that not one drop of this massive stockpile has been found, as previously reported on AlterNet the United States' own intelligence reports show that these stocks -- if they existed -- were well past their use-by date and therefore useless as weapon fodder.

http://www.alternet.org/story/16274?page=2

LIE #9: "We know where [Iraq's WMD] are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south, and north somewhat." -- Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, March 30, 2003, in statements to the press.

FACT: Needless to say, no such weapons were found, not to the east, west, south or north, somewhat or otherwise.

http://www.alternet.org/story/16274?page=2

LIE #10: "Yes, we found a biological laboratory in Iraq which the UN prohibited." -- President Bush in remarks in Poland, published internationally June 1, 2003.

FACT: This was reference to the discovery of two modified truck trailers that the CIA claimed were potential mobile biological weapons lab. But British and American experts -- including the State Department's intelligence wing in a report released this week -- have since declared this to be untrue. According to the British, and much to Prime Minister Tony Blair's embarrassment, the trailers are actually exactly what Iraq said they were; facilities to fill weather balloons, sold to them by the British themselves.

So, months after the war, we are once again where we started -- with plenty of rhetoric and absolutely no proof of this "grave danger" for which O.J. Smith died. The Bush administration is now scrambling to place the blame for its lies on faulty intelligence, when in fact the intelligence was fine; it was their abuse of it that was "faulty."

http://www.alternet.org/story/16274?page=2

FYI you can believe what you want. It is not a lie if they believed that without evidence. Anyway, you are not proving anything illegal nor or you proving if he created these lies himself or if it was someone else.

I would also argue how many things you have labeled as lies are not necessarily lies. The use of the world believe means you can't prove what they do or do not believe thus you can't prove it to be a lie. You can believe in things with no facts supporting them.

You also have not proved any intent to deceive. Maybe they were also being deceived, maybe they were acting before all the facts were discovered.

Though pointing these facts are pointless for people that don't think logically.

We went in on the basis of WMD's. Do I really need to post the US's, the UN's and NATO's definition of a WMD again?

Do you realy think people in the government are that stupid? It was propaganda plain and simple. DUH they knew what they had to say and do to drag us into another war and most of america was dumb enough to go along.

Dont ya think maybe we should have had our facts straight before we involved ourselves in bankrupting wars and devistated civilian populations?

I am not arguing whether or not we should have gone or not. I am not arguing if it was stupid or not.

I am saying the war was not illegal.

If we simply go by the Terms of Nurenberg we are guilty of war crimes.

OK here is the real reason....

North Korea’s secret highly enriched uranium (HEU) program appears to date from
at least 1996. Hwang Jang-yop, a Communist Party secretary who defected in 1997,
has stated that North Korea and Pakistan agreed in the summer of 1996 to trade
North Korean long-range missile technology for Pakistani HEU technology.12 Other
information dates North Korea-Pakistan cooperation to 1993.

Knowledgeable individuals believe that the Soviet Union did not assist directly
in the development of Yongbyon in the 1980s. The U.S.S.R. provided North Korea
with a small research reactor in the 1960s, which also is at Yongbyon. However,
North Korean nuclear scientists continued to receive training in the U.S.S.R. up to
the demise of the Soviet Union in December 1991. East German and Russian nuclear
and missile scientists reportedly were in North Korea throughout the 1990s. Since
1999, reports have appeared that U.S. intelligence agencies had information that
Chinese enterprises were supplying important components and raw materials for
North Korea’s missile program.13

see:
http://www.gayrefugees.us/crs_country/CRSReportNorthKorea%27sNuclearWeaponsProgram%28August1,2006%29.pdf

Article VI Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, known as the "Supremacy Clause," grants international treaties the same "supreme" status as federal law and the Constitution itself. It reads:

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."

You can visit the State Department website to find a complete list of the international treaties to which our country is a signatory, under "Treaties in Force"
http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_14813.shtml

Committing war crimes doesn't mean the war is illegal.

And if we listen to John Lyly All's fair in love and war.

If one was to assign 'blame' for NK's weapons programs one must look first to China.

For political and economic reasons China refused to do anything concrete about a problem that exists on its own border. That 'weakness' on the part of China resulted in NK being emboldened to continue a rash course of action.

China may end up paying the price as any 'action' made necessary by NK's refusal to act like a responsible nation would result in 'fallout' that will effect China more than any other nation except the two Korea's.

Again you miss the point. the case for war in Iraq was based on lies and as shown above often times they knew it was a lie in order to work up the american sheeple.

War between nations was renounced by the signatories of the Kellogg-Briand Treaty. This means that it has become throughout practically the entire world . . . an illegal thing. Hereafter, when engaged in armed conflict, either one or both of them must be termed violators of this general treaty law . . . We denounce them as law breakers."[3]

The convictions of German leaders at Nuremberg for the crime of waging aggressive war were based entirely upon the Kellogg-Briand Pact and the history of lesser treaties that led up to its signing. Once again, I quote from the Nuremberg Judgment:

"The question is, what was the legal effect of this pact? The nations who signed the pact or adhered to it unconditionally condemned recourse to war for the future as an instrument of policy, and expressly renounced it. After the signing of the pact, any nation resorting to war as an instrument of national policy breaks the pact. In the opinion of the Tribunal, the solemn renunciation of war as an instrument of national policy necessarily involves the proposition that such a war is illegal in international law; and that those who plan and wage such a war, with its inevitable and terrible consequences, are committing a crime in so doing."
http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_14813.shtml


Being that we signed many treaties denoucneing aggresive wars we are bound by these treaties. Unfortunatly for humanity the american people are rubes and no country can hold us accountable. The good news is this.
Iraq Wants the U.S. Out
BAGHDAD—Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki ruled out the presence of any U.S. troops in Iraq after the end of 2011, saying his new government and the country's security forces were capable of confronting any remaining threats to Iraq's security, sovereignty and unity.

Mr. Maliki spoke with The Wall Street Journal in a two-hour interview, his first since Iraq ended nine months of stalemate and seated a new government after an inconclusive election, allowing Mr. Maliki to begin a second term as premier.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204685004576045700275218580.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories

It still doesn't make it illegal. Please don't change the subject.

I am not repsonsible for your lack of comprehension. I would suggest you scroll up and re-read.

Just prior to the first gulf war Saddam moved those WMD as well as most of his chemical materials in a massive airlift to Iran. This was a miscalculation on his part. (The Iranians promptly confiscated all of it). Saddam did this hoping thinking that the first gulf war would lead to an invasion of his country (which did not happen then).

these weapons did exist and the research materials seized from the 'airlift' by the Iranians is what accerlerated their nuclear program.

Doesn't anyone pay any attention anymore?

Ummmmm Blame North Korea for having Nukes after all they decide to build them and they decide to deploy them......they do not have to choose to do either if they do not wish to......

How about one slice of truth to this? a link that is credible? Personaly I blame Fox news for your misinformed opinion.