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"The FBI is building a database with the names and certain personal information, such as employment history, of thousands of U.S. citizens and residents whom a local police officer or a fellow citizen believed to be acting suspiciously."
I highlight this for those of you that can't be bothered to read the entire piece. This is exactly the same type of stuff that went on during the 30's and 40's in the National Socialist German Workers Party and their Third Reich.. Or Stalins Soviet Union and his NKVD led by Yagoda and then Beria. I am sure some you think this is fine, but let me tell you that it's not. Nine years after the terrorist attacks of 2001, the United States is assembling a vast domestic intelligence apparatus to collect information about Americans, using the FBI, local police, state homeland security offices and military criminal investigators. The system, by far the largest and most technologically sophisticated in the nation's history, collects, stores and analyzes information about thousands of U.S. citizens and residents, many of whom have not been accused of any wrongdoing. The government's goal is to have every state and local law enforcement agency in the country feed information to Washington to buttress the work of the FBI, which is in charge of terrorism investigations in the United States. Other democracies - Britain and Israel, to name two - are well acquainted with such domestic security measures. But for the United States, the sum of these new activities represents a new level of governmental scrutiny. This localized intelligence apparatus is part of a larger Top Secret America created since the attacks. In July, The Washington Post described an alternative geography of the United States, one that has grown so large, unwieldy and secretive that no one knows how much money it costs, how many people it employs or how many programs exist within it. Today's story, along with related material on The Post's Web site, examines how Top Secret America plays out at the local level. It describes a web of 4,058 federal, state and local organizations, each with its own counterterrorism responsibilities and jurisdictions. At least 935 of these organizations have been created since the 2001 attacks or became involved in counterterrorism for the first time after 9/11. (Search our database for your state to find a detailed profile of counterterrorism efforts in your community.) The months-long investigation, based on nearly 100 interviews and 1,000 documents, found that: * Technologies and techniques honed for use on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan have migrated into the hands of law enforcement agencies in America. * The FBI is building a database with the names and certain personal information, such as employment history, of thousands of U.S. citizens and residents whom a local police officer or a fellow citizen believed to be acting suspiciously. It is accessible to an increasing number of local law enforcement and military criminal investigators, increasing concerns that it could somehow end up in the public domain. * Seeking to learn more about Islam and terrorism, some law enforcement agencies have hired as trainers self-described experts whose extremist views on Islam and terrorism are considered inaccurate and counterproductive by the FBI and U.S. intelligence agencies. * The Department of Homeland Security sends its state and local partners intelligence reports with little meaningful guidance, and state reports have sometimes inappropriately reported on lawful meetings. The need to identify U.S.-born or naturalized citizens who are planning violent attacks is more urgent than ever, U.S. intelligence officials say. This month's FBI sting operation involving a Baltimore construction worker who allegedly planned to bomb a Maryland military recruiting station is the latest example. It followed a similar arrest of a Somali-born naturalized U.S. citizen allegedly seeking to detonate a bomb near a Christmas tree lighting ceremony in Portland, Ore. There have been nearly two dozen other cases just this year. "The old view that 'if we fight the terrorists abroad, we won't have to fight them here' is just that - the old view," Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told police and firefighters recently. The Obama administration heralds this local approach as a much-needed evolution in the way the country confronts terrorism. http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/articles/monitoring-america/?hpid=topnews |
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"The FBI is building a database with the names and certain personal information, such as employment history, of thousands of U.S. citizens and residents whom a local police officer or a fellow citizen believed to be acting suspiciously." I highlight this for those of you that can't be bothered to read the entire piece. This is exactly the same type of stuff that went on during the 30's and 40's in the National Socialist German Workers Party and their Third Reich.. Or Stalins Soviet Union and his NKVD led by Yagoda and then Beria. I am sure some you think this is fine, but let me tell you that it's not. Nine years after the terrorist attacks of 2001, the United States is assembling a vast domestic intelligence apparatus to collect information about Americans, using the FBI, local police, state homeland security offices and military criminal investigators. The system, by far the largest and most technologically sophisticated in the nation's history, collects, stores and analyzes information about thousands of U.S. citizens and residents, many of whom have not been accused of any wrongdoing. The government's goal is to have every state and local law enforcement agency in the country feed information to Washington to buttress the work of the FBI, which is in charge of terrorism investigations in the United States. Other democracies - Britain and Israel, to name two - are well acquainted with such domestic security measures. But for the United States, the sum of these new activities represents a new level of governmental scrutiny. This localized intelligence apparatus is part of a larger Top Secret America created since the attacks. In July, The Washington Post described an alternative geography of the United States, one that has grown so large, unwieldy and secretive that no one knows how much money it costs, how many people it employs or how many programs exist within it. Today's story, along with related material on The Post's Web site, examines how Top Secret America plays out at the local level. It describes a web of 4,058 federal, state and local organizations, each with its own counterterrorism responsibilities and jurisdictions. At least 935 of these organizations have been created since the 2001 attacks or became involved in counterterrorism for the first time after 9/11. (Search our database for your state to find a detailed profile of counterterrorism efforts in your community.) The months-long investigation, based on nearly 100 interviews and 1,000 documents, found that: * Technologies and techniques honed for use on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan have migrated into the hands of law enforcement agencies in America. * The FBI is building a database with the names and certain personal information, such as employment history, of thousands of U.S. citizens and residents whom a local police officer or a fellow citizen believed to be acting suspiciously. It is accessible to an increasing number of local law enforcement and military criminal investigators, increasing concerns that it could somehow end up in the public domain. * Seeking to learn more about Islam and terrorism, some law enforcement agencies have hired as trainers self-described experts whose extremist views on Islam and terrorism are considered inaccurate and counterproductive by the FBI and U.S. intelligence agencies. * The Department of Homeland Security sends its state and local partners intelligence reports with little meaningful guidance, and state reports have sometimes inappropriately reported on lawful meetings. The need to identify U.S.-born or naturalized citizens who are planning violent attacks is more urgent than ever, U.S. intelligence officials say. This month's FBI sting operation involving a Baltimore construction worker who allegedly planned to bomb a Maryland military recruiting station is the latest example. It followed a similar arrest of a Somali-born naturalized U.S. citizen allegedly seeking to detonate a bomb near a Christmas tree lighting ceremony in Portland, Ore. There have been nearly two dozen other cases just this year. "The old view that 'if we fight the terrorists abroad, we won't have to fight them here' is just that - the old view," Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told police and firefighters recently. The Obama administration heralds this local approach as a much-needed evolution in the way the country confronts terrorism. http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/articles/monitoring-america/?hpid=topnews \ lol i was just reading that article... |
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"The FBI is building a database with the names and certain personal information, such as employment history, of thousands of U.S. citizens and residents whom a local police officer or a fellow citizen believed to be acting suspiciously." I highlight this for those of you that can't be bothered to read the entire piece. This is exactly the same type of stuff that went on during the 30's and 40's in the National Socialist German Workers Party and their Third Reich.. Or Stalins Soviet Union and his NKVD led by Yagoda and then Beria. I am sure some you think this is fine, but let me tell you that it's not. Nine years after the terrorist attacks of 2001, the United States is assembling a vast domestic intelligence apparatus to collect information about Americans, using the FBI, local police, state homeland security offices and military criminal investigators. The system, by far the largest and most technologically sophisticated in the nation's history, collects, stores and analyzes information about thousands of U.S. citizens and residents, many of whom have not been accused of any wrongdoing. The government's goal is to have every state and local law enforcement agency in the country feed information to Washington to buttress the work of the FBI, which is in charge of terrorism investigations in the United States. Other democracies - Britain and Israel, to name two - are well acquainted with such domestic security measures. But for the United States, the sum of these new activities represents a new level of governmental scrutiny. This localized intelligence apparatus is part of a larger Top Secret America created since the attacks. In July, The Washington Post described an alternative geography of the United States, one that has grown so large, unwieldy and secretive that no one knows how much money it costs, how many people it employs or how many programs exist within it. Today's story, along with related material on The Post's Web site, examines how Top Secret America plays out at the local level. It describes a web of 4,058 federal, state and local organizations, each with its own counterterrorism responsibilities and jurisdictions. At least 935 of these organizations have been created since the 2001 attacks or became involved in counterterrorism for the first time after 9/11. (Search our database for your state to find a detailed profile of counterterrorism efforts in your community.) The months-long investigation, based on nearly 100 interviews and 1,000 documents, found that: * Technologies and techniques honed for use on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan have migrated into the hands of law enforcement agencies in America. * The FBI is building a database with the names and certain personal information, such as employment history, of thousands of U.S. citizens and residents whom a local police officer or a fellow citizen believed to be acting suspiciously. It is accessible to an increasing number of local law enforcement and military criminal investigators, increasing concerns that it could somehow end up in the public domain. * Seeking to learn more about Islam and terrorism, some law enforcement agencies have hired as trainers self-described experts whose extremist views on Islam and terrorism are considered inaccurate and counterproductive by the FBI and U.S. intelligence agencies. * The Department of Homeland Security sends its state and local partners intelligence reports with little meaningful guidance, and state reports have sometimes inappropriately reported on lawful meetings. The need to identify U.S.-born or naturalized citizens who are planning violent attacks is more urgent than ever, U.S. intelligence officials say. This month's FBI sting operation involving a Baltimore construction worker who allegedly planned to bomb a Maryland military recruiting station is the latest example. It followed a similar arrest of a Somali-born naturalized U.S. citizen allegedly seeking to detonate a bomb near a Christmas tree lighting ceremony in Portland, Ore. There have been nearly two dozen other cases just this year. "The old view that 'if we fight the terrorists abroad, we won't have to fight them here' is just that - the old view," Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told police and firefighters recently. The Obama administration heralds this local approach as a much-needed evolution in the way the country confronts terrorism. http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/articles/monitoring-america/?hpid=topnews \ lol i was just reading that article... I see that.. Pretty troubling stuff.. Unless you want to live in a police state where your neighbors might tell on you for speaking badly about the authoritarian leadership. |
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"The FBI is building a database with the names and certain personal information, such as employment history, of thousands of U.S. citizens and residents whom a local police officer or a fellow citizen believed to be acting suspiciously." I highlight this for those of you that can't be bothered to read the entire piece. This is exactly the same type of stuff that went on during the 30's and 40's in the National Socialist German Workers Party and their Third Reich.. Or Stalins Soviet Union and his NKVD led by Yagoda and then Beria. I am sure some you think this is fine, but let me tell you that it's not. Nine years after the terrorist attacks of 2001, the United States is assembling a vast domestic intelligence apparatus to collect information about Americans, using the FBI, local police, state homeland security offices and military criminal investigators. The system, by far the largest and most technologically sophisticated in the nation's history, collects, stores and analyzes information about thousands of U.S. citizens and residents, many of whom have not been accused of any wrongdoing. The government's goal is to have every state and local law enforcement agency in the country feed information to Washington to buttress the work of the FBI, which is in charge of terrorism investigations in the United States. Other democracies - Britain and Israel, to name two - are well acquainted with such domestic security measures. But for the United States, the sum of these new activities represents a new level of governmental scrutiny. This localized intelligence apparatus is part of a larger Top Secret America created since the attacks. In July, The Washington Post described an alternative geography of the United States, one that has grown so large, unwieldy and secretive that no one knows how much money it costs, how many people it employs or how many programs exist within it. Today's story, along with related material on The Post's Web site, examines how Top Secret America plays out at the local level. It describes a web of 4,058 federal, state and local organizations, each with its own counterterrorism responsibilities and jurisdictions. At least 935 of these organizations have been created since the 2001 attacks or became involved in counterterrorism for the first time after 9/11. (Search our database for your state to find a detailed profile of counterterrorism efforts in your community.) The months-long investigation, based on nearly 100 interviews and 1,000 documents, found that: * Technologies and techniques honed for use on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan have migrated into the hands of law enforcement agencies in America. * The FBI is building a database with the names and certain personal information, such as employment history, of thousands of U.S. citizens and residents whom a local police officer or a fellow citizen believed to be acting suspiciously. It is accessible to an increasing number of local law enforcement and military criminal investigators, increasing concerns that it could somehow end up in the public domain. * Seeking to learn more about Islam and terrorism, some law enforcement agencies have hired as trainers self-described experts whose extremist views on Islam and terrorism are considered inaccurate and counterproductive by the FBI and U.S. intelligence agencies. * The Department of Homeland Security sends its state and local partners intelligence reports with little meaningful guidance, and state reports have sometimes inappropriately reported on lawful meetings. The need to identify U.S.-born or naturalized citizens who are planning violent attacks is more urgent than ever, U.S. intelligence officials say. This month's FBI sting operation involving a Baltimore construction worker who allegedly planned to bomb a Maryland military recruiting station is the latest example. It followed a similar arrest of a Somali-born naturalized U.S. citizen allegedly seeking to detonate a bomb near a Christmas tree lighting ceremony in Portland, Ore. There have been nearly two dozen other cases just this year. "The old view that 'if we fight the terrorists abroad, we won't have to fight them here' is just that - the old view," Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told police and firefighters recently. The Obama administration heralds this local approach as a much-needed evolution in the way the country confronts terrorism. http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/articles/monitoring-america/?hpid=topnews \ lol i was just reading that article... I see that.. Pretty troubling stuff.. Unless you want to live in a police state where your neighbors might tell on you for speaking badly about the authoritarian leadership. obama at his finest...and i thought bush was bad.... |
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playing the devils advocate again,,,
I have actually always thought that it would make more sense for all the authorities to be CONNECTED and keep each other atuned of what goes on from city to city, state to state,,,etc,, because people relocate and travel so often between the cities and states of america, it makes sense to me to have that information accessible to all levels of law enforcement, I understand the other side too, because its easy to say its ok until you have become an 'innocent' suspect of the law much like people who think police are often corrupt and fallible, I totally agree that law enforcement at all levels can be abused by legal means and should be kept a watch on,,,, but IM not sure if Im upset about this measure,,,yet |
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playing the devils advocate again,,, I have actually always thought that it would make more sense for all the authorities to be CONNECTED and keep each other atuned of what goes on from city to city, state to state,,,etc,, because people relocate and travel so often between the cities and states of america, it makes sense to me to have that information accessible to all levels of law enforcement, I understand the other side too, because its easy to say its ok until you have become an 'innocent' suspect of the law much like people who think police are often corrupt and fallible, I totally agree that law enforcement at all levels can be abused by legal means and should be kept a watch on,,,, but IM not sure if Im upset about this measure,,,yet |
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if any governing body in it's attempts to keep the people safe, envokes the need to INCREASE their awareness of the happenings of all Americans, to keep any crimes from occuring, then likewise the constituants as the people need equal INCREASED surveillance of the government, to feel safe from any crimes, and cameras to increase their awareness of all happenings, or there is NO EQUAL.
A TOTAL UNBALANCE OF POWER. and a mis percieved notion that "bad" people only exist in CERTAIN PLACES, and that lies and false motives and crimes, are only committed by constituants, and not rulers, all being people equal in such capabilities and motives, in governmental service and out of governmental service. we are long past equal. the collective mass has no sight of equal power or accountability, since the people but sought lack of accountability for themself in many ways, and so allowed the unequal arms of power to amass it's control way beyond equal long ago. to tip these scales back to neutral or balanced, would only be a feat beyond human. we need aliens! lol... |
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People have the opportunity to clean house and fire all these worthless sons-a-*******, but the people are stupid and buy into the lie both parties spew so it doesn't surprise me that this would be happening. The sheeple get what the sheeple deserve. |
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Say hellow to another Big Brother.
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"The FBI is building a database with the names and certain personal information, such as employment history, of thousands of U.S. citizens and residents whom a local police officer or a fellow citizen believed to be acting suspiciously." I highlight this for those of you that can't be bothered to read the entire piece. This is exactly the same type of stuff that went on during the 30's and 40's in the National Socialist German Workers Party and their Third Reich.. Or Stalins Soviet Union and his NKVD led by Yagoda and then Beria. I am sure some you think this is fine, but let me tell you that it's not. Nine years after the terrorist attacks of 2001, the United States is assembling a vast domestic intelligence apparatus to collect information about Americans, using the FBI, local police, state homeland security offices and military criminal investigators. The system, by far the largest and most technologically sophisticated in the nation's history, collects, stores and analyzes information about thousands of U.S. citizens and residents, many of whom have not been accused of any wrongdoing. The government's goal is to have every state and local law enforcement agency in the country feed information to Washington to buttress the work of the FBI, which is in charge of terrorism investigations in the United States. Other democracies - Britain and Israel, to name two - are well acquainted with such domestic security measures. But for the United States, the sum of these new activities represents a new level of governmental scrutiny. This localized intelligence apparatus is part of a larger Top Secret America created since the attacks. In July, The Washington Post described an alternative geography of the United States, one that has grown so large, unwieldy and secretive that no one knows how much money it costs, how many people it employs or how many programs exist within it. Today's story, along with related material on The Post's Web site, examines how Top Secret America plays out at the local level. It describes a web of 4,058 federal, state and local organizations, each with its own counterterrorism responsibilities and jurisdictions. At least 935 of these organizations have been created since the 2001 attacks or became involved in counterterrorism for the first time after 9/11. (Search our database for your state to find a detailed profile of counterterrorism efforts in your community.) The months-long investigation, based on nearly 100 interviews and 1,000 documents, found that: * Technologies and techniques honed for use on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan have migrated into the hands of law enforcement agencies in America. * The FBI is building a database with the names and certain personal information, such as employment history, of thousands of U.S. citizens and residents whom a local police officer or a fellow citizen believed to be acting suspiciously. It is accessible to an increasing number of local law enforcement and military criminal investigators, increasing concerns that it could somehow end up in the public domain. * Seeking to learn more about Islam and terrorism, some law enforcement agencies have hired as trainers self-described experts whose extremist views on Islam and terrorism are considered inaccurate and counterproductive by the FBI and U.S. intelligence agencies. * The Department of Homeland Security sends its state and local partners intelligence reports with little meaningful guidance, and state reports have sometimes inappropriately reported on lawful meetings. The need to identify U.S.-born or naturalized citizens who are planning violent attacks is more urgent than ever, U.S. intelligence officials say. This month's FBI sting operation involving a Baltimore construction worker who allegedly planned to bomb a Maryland military recruiting station is the latest example. It followed a similar arrest of a Somali-born naturalized U.S. citizen allegedly seeking to detonate a bomb near a Christmas tree lighting ceremony in Portland, Ore. There have been nearly two dozen other cases just this year. "The old view that 'if we fight the terrorists abroad, we won't have to fight them here' is just that - the old view," Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told police and firefighters recently. The Obama administration heralds this local approach as a much-needed evolution in the way the country confronts terrorism. http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/articles/monitoring-america/?hpid=topnews You mean they are actually looking for Terrorists? |
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The need to identify U.S.-born or naturalized citizens who are planning violent attacks is more urgent than ever, U.S. intelligence officials say. This month's FBI sting operation involving a Baltimore construction worker who allegedly planned to bomb a Maryland military recruiting station is the latest example. It followed a similar arrest of a Somali-born naturalized U.S. citizen allegedly seeking to detonate a bomb near a Christmas tree lighting ceremony in Portland, Ore. There have been nearly two dozen other cases just this year.
"The old view that 'if we fight the terrorists abroad, we won't have to fight them here' is just that - the old view," Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told police and firefighters recently. http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/articles/monitoring-america/?hpid=topnews |
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Just another reason to go walk about and live in a cabin in the deep woods
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They ain't doing a very good job at it.
They can't locate 25,000,000 Illegals. |
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"The FBI is building a database with the names and certain personal information, such as employment history, of thousands of U.S. citizens and residents whom a local police officer or a fellow citizen believed to be acting suspiciously." I highlight this for those of you that can't be bothered to read the entire piece. This is exactly the same type of stuff that went on during the 30's and 40's in the National Socialist German Workers Party and their Third Reich.. Or Stalins Soviet Union and his NKVD led by Yagoda and then Beria. I am sure some you think this is fine, but let me tell you that it's not. Nine years after the terrorist attacks of 2001, the United States is assembling a vast domestic intelligence apparatus to collect information about Americans, using the FBI, local police, state homeland security offices and military criminal investigators. The system, by far the largest and most technologically sophisticated in the nation's history, collects, stores and analyzes information about thousands of U.S. citizens and residents, many of whom have not been accused of any wrongdoing. The government's goal is to have every state and local law enforcement agency in the country feed information to Washington to buttress the work of the FBI, which is in charge of terrorism investigations in the United States. Other democracies - Britain and Israel, to name two - are well acquainted with such domestic security measures. But for the United States, the sum of these new activities represents a new level of governmental scrutiny. This localized intelligence apparatus is part of a larger Top Secret America created since the attacks. In July, The Washington Post described an alternative geography of the United States, one that has grown so large, unwieldy and secretive that no one knows how much money it costs, how many people it employs or how many programs exist within it. Today's story, along with related material on The Post's Web site, examines how Top Secret America plays out at the local level. It describes a web of 4,058 federal, state and local organizations, each with its own counterterrorism responsibilities and jurisdictions. At least 935 of these organizations have been created since the 2001 attacks or became involved in counterterrorism for the first time after 9/11. (Search our database for your state to find a detailed profile of counterterrorism efforts in your community.) The months-long investigation, based on nearly 100 interviews and 1,000 documents, found that: * Technologies and techniques honed for use on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan have migrated into the hands of law enforcement agencies in America. * The FBI is building a database with the names and certain personal information, such as employment history, of thousands of U.S. citizens and residents whom a local police officer or a fellow citizen believed to be acting suspiciously. It is accessible to an increasing number of local law enforcement and military criminal investigators, increasing concerns that it could somehow end up in the public domain. * Seeking to learn more about Islam and terrorism, some law enforcement agencies have hired as trainers self-described experts whose extremist views on Islam and terrorism are considered inaccurate and counterproductive by the FBI and U.S. intelligence agencies. * The Department of Homeland Security sends its state and local partners intelligence reports with little meaningful guidance, and state reports have sometimes inappropriately reported on lawful meetings. The need to identify U.S.-born or naturalized citizens who are planning violent attacks is more urgent than ever, U.S. intelligence officials say. This month's FBI sting operation involving a Baltimore construction worker who allegedly planned to bomb a Maryland military recruiting station is the latest example. It followed a similar arrest of a Somali-born naturalized U.S. citizen allegedly seeking to detonate a bomb near a Christmas tree lighting ceremony in Portland, Ore. There have been nearly two dozen other cases just this year. "The old view that 'if we fight the terrorists abroad, we won't have to fight them here' is just that - the old view," Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told police and firefighters recently. The Obama administration heralds this local approach as a much-needed evolution in the way the country confronts terrorism. http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/articles/monitoring-america/?hpid=topnews You mean they are actually looking for Terrorists? no, not exactly... just means they are saying they are... |
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The first thing any country would do that was really concerned about acts of terror from a foreign source would be to close it's borders.
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I don't see how that would help.
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I don't see how that would help. terrorists can just walk across the borders without any interference... thats not real hard to see... |
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it is obvious those that seek blind trust and faith in themself, with no accountability, believe they should embrace such for the governing body, to create what?
since those that demand respect, with no reagrd or concept that such is earned, accept that power demanding it be respected. which is the mentality of those with no integrity. which integrity is based in treating other human's with care, AND WITH NO DECEPTION. or implementations or constraints simply imposed to serve the BETTERMENT of some. how many wouldbe potential terrorist are in the world? is would be believed they are everywhere? how many terrorsit bombings have we had? and all LIFE, OF ALL HUMANS, should be DECIDED OR CONTROLLED BY DEFENDING OR STRUCTURING AROUND THESE FEW? please... what a bunch of idiocy. WHICH IS WHAT SELF IS BEING ALREADY CONTROLLED BY A "TERRORIST"... whether one has met you or not, YOU ALREADY GAVE THE TOTAL MOST ESSENCE OF "YOUR LIFE" TO THE "DEFINITOIONS" OF A WOULDBE TERRORIST. but, since people love to BLAME, to make themself FEEL IMPORTANT, than these emotions are being played like a fiddle, by people gazilliosn times smarter than the little pawns, that love to think of themself as wise and smart, AND IMPORTANT. those that lie, of course, could care less about lie's in government. those that decieve and manipulate, could care less if there is deciet and manipulation within power. NOT RECOGNIZING, THAT IS PRECISLY HOW HITLER TALKED THE GERMANS INTO A "TERRORIST".... just called the JEWS THEN. and somehow these blind idiots think there will be different results created this time? huh... put on your sexy boots. as U2 says... no line on the horizon indeed... as the line is being created playing the pawns like a fiddle... and all these care about, is there porn collection, and a fine long head job, and unlimited moons, lol.... worthless saps deserve no freedom, and why it shall be removed from them per their own request. duly obliged there fine boy. my grandma, how sharp those teeth are today... i never noticed those before.... lol... idiocy. |
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playing the devils advocate again,,, I have actually always thought that it would make more sense for all the authorities to be CONNECTED and keep each other atuned of what goes on from city to city, state to state,,,etc,, because people relocate and travel so often between the cities and states of america, it makes sense to me to have that information accessible to all levels of law enforcement, I understand the other side too, because its easy to say its ok until you have become an 'innocent' suspect of the law much like people who think police are often corrupt and fallible, I totally agree that law enforcement at all levels can be abused by legal means and should be kept a watch on,,,, but IM not sure if Im upset about this measure,,,yet On one hand we hear that there are only a handful of people wishing to do us harm. Then why is the other hand building this massive data collection apparatus to track the supposed few? I believe the definition of "terrorist" is evolving and eventually all encompassing based on the whims of the ruling class. |
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The U.S. govt. is the real terrorist.
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