Topic: Family Values
Dragoness's photo
Thu 12/16/10 04:32 PM
Lets explore what the conservative Republicans mean by family values.

From my research it means white heterosexual Christian nonpoor families. in other words they best not be asking for help from anyone.

I have been watching interviews and things from the conservatives.

There are alot of issues with this philosophy in this country. It is not healthy for us as a nation.


FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 12/16/10 05:28 PM
Yeah, well...historically politicians aren't all that bright in the first place, much less I'm going to listen to what they think.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 12/16/10 05:33 PM
Understood. The problem is that people buy into it and vote them in on the premise of this. Believing that this is right for this country. Instead of understanding it may be right for them personally but is not patriotic at all.

FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 12/16/10 05:40 PM

Understood. The problem is that people buy into it and vote them in on the premise of this. Believing that this is right for this country. Instead of understanding it may be right for them personally but is not patriotic at all.


Either way we are screwed, they can vote whoever they want in and it won't change that fact.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 12/16/10 05:59 PM

Understood. The problem is that people buy into it and vote them in on the premise of this. Believing that this is right for this country. Instead of understanding it may be right for them personally but is not patriotic at all.


why is it not patriotic? like types think alike...i guess what you are saying is that you are right, and they are wrong...that's one of the main problems in politics, is that everyone has the right opinion and everyone is wrong...i think family values is a good thing, whether you go to church or not...just because a republican says something doesn't make it automatically wrong...

InvictusV's photo
Thu 12/16/10 06:59 PM

Lets explore what the conservative Republicans mean by family values.

From my research it means white heterosexual Christian nonpoor families. in other words they best not be asking for help from anyone.

I have been watching interviews and things from the conservatives.

There are alot of issues with this philosophy in this country. It is not healthy for us as a nation.





your research? haha.. show some data.. who did you interview, when did you interview them? what questions did you ask?

I look forward to your submission for peer review.. LMAO




s1owhand's photo
Thu 12/16/10 07:07 PM
Come Zara, We welcome thee, let us join in grief and rejoice in despair...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAO4OUthN1o

boredinaz06's photo
Thu 12/16/10 08:40 PM



I find it funny that the hardcore family values conservatives are the ones pickin up ho's or playing footsy whilst upon the thunder mug.

Fanta46's photo
Thu 12/16/10 09:07 PM

Lets explore what the conservative Republicans mean by family values.

From my research it means white heterosexual Christian nonpoor families. in other words they best not be asking for help from anyone.

I have been watching interviews and things from the conservatives.

There are alot of issues with this philosophy in this country. It is not healthy for us as a nation.




:thumbsup:

davidben1's photo
Fri 12/17/10 12:44 AM
the only flaw in the premise of your topic dragoness, is that it assumes that other humans care about more than proving their OWN PERCEPTION as right, or as supreme.

there is actually no meshing of ideas, unless there is a extreme need to blend ideas, to create new ideas that encompass all ideas into one larger common idea.

of course, this is simply one way of putting it, as "ideas"...

the natural inclination of the human species is to prove SELF CORRECT, BY DISPROVING ANOTHER.

but, if someone or something can be disproven, it can likewise be proven.

so, since even a child is born trying to PROVE ITSELF CORRECT, prove itself a grown up, prove itself can drive a car, this practice continues throughout life....

yes, even for world leaders...

still using childlike mentality, of only disproving what does not concur with self as incorrect, or not valid, or not meaningful.

so?

stalemate.

why do you think every civilized society that ever existed, only lasted at maximum about 250 years...

before destroying itself with some great war.

and how old is are country?

234 years to be exact.

so unless, as history portrays, there is some tramatic happening to shake the singular self confidence, of people in america or the world at large, into having to prove something besides what self thinks as true, we are fuccked focked and fucckered.

not to mention...

your on a dating site!

if the words of spouses were proven as true, and not just disproven, most would not even be here.

lol...

so what type of mentality will most be on a singles site?

close minded!

those that disprove all words except their own, that is of course, unless they are hearing flattery about themself, then of course, an exception is made for these type words, lol...

so, does one think it shall find logical thinkers, who can blend ideas as perceptions on a dating site?

lol...

come now...

rarely.

so, what values will one find that another has, that are large enough values to be of the common good of ALL OF AMERCIA?

that is a large order to fill.

which by the way, the meaning of "patriotic" is OF THE COMMON GOOD...

the very use of the word is tainted by each using it to simply declare whatever it feels in itself as patriotic...

lol...

so, the very use of the word is most prohibitive in blending ideas, or seeking common good between common people.

but then what person can know what common good is, if all of it's life is has relied upon the self perception as supreme, this making it base the total proposed reality and sum of good upon the self feelings?

wow...

quite a mountian to hurdle to accomplish any solution for american or world issues, when each is simply validating it's own feelings as the guide of all that is good for everybody else.

but, it is not missed, your true motivation to find viable solution for troubled peoples in the world, even beyond your own self interest.

not missed you are a true carer, even if the crux of your topic will but encite a clinging of each to their own perception as supreme.

go figure.

we live in a grown up world full of childlike grown ups, who validate their own feelings worse than children do.

i guess such would be par for the human course, since it is taught and thought that if one is no longer of child age, it is mo' smart.

lol...

oh well...

whats new in the world.

total dead end so far.

nothing short of a catostrophic cosmis starburst that threatens all life on planet earth, will make people concerned about more than love and sex for themself and proving their own perception as supreme.



Thomas3474's photo
Fri 12/17/10 12:59 AM

Lets explore what the conservative Republicans mean by family values.

From my research it means white heterosexual Christian nonpoor families. in other words they best not be asking for help from anyone.

I have been watching interviews and things from the conservatives.

There are alot of issues with this philosophy in this country. It is not healthy for us as a nation.






In other words....if your anything else but a gay minority you should be kicked out of the United states because we are unhealthy.slaphead


Get a education before you speak.Because you have no idea what you are talking about.


http://blackrepublican.blogspot.com/2009/12/harry-reid-twists-civil-rights-history.html


October 13, 1858
During Lincoln-Douglas debates, U.S. Senator Stephen Douglas (D-IL) states: “I do not regard the Negro as my equal, and positively deny that he is my brother, or any kin to me whatever”; Douglas became Democratic Party’s 1860 presidential nominee

April 16, 1862
President Lincoln signs bill abolishing slavery in District of Columbia; in Congress, 99% of Republicans vote yes, 83% of Democrats vote no

“Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws… On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

July 17, 1862
Over unanimous Democrat opposition, Republican Congress passes Confiscation Act stating that slaves of the Confederacy “shall be forever free”

January 31, 1865
13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. House with unanimous Republican support, intense Democrat opposition

April 8, 1865
13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. Senate with 100% Republican support, 63% Democrat opposition

November 22, 1865
Republicans denounce Democrat legislature of Mississippi for enacting “black codes,” which institutionalized racial discrimination

February 5, 1866
U.S. Rep. Thaddeus Stevens (R-PA) introduces legislation, successfully opposed by Democrat President Andrew Johnson, to implement “40 acres and a mule” relief by distributing land to former slaves

“Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws… On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

April 9, 1866
Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Johnson’s veto; Civil Rights Act of 1866, conferring rights of citizenship on African-Americans, becomes law

May 10, 1866
U.S. House passes Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the laws to all citizens; 100% of Democrats vote no

June 8, 1866
U.S. Senate passes Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the law to all citizens; 94% of Republicans vote yes and 100% of Democrats vote no

“Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws… On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

January 8, 1867
Republicans override Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of law granting voting rights to African-Americans in D.C.

July 19, 1867
Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of legislation protecting voting rights of African-Americans

March 30, 1868
Republicans begin impeachment trial of Democrat President Andrew Johnson, who declared: “This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government of white men”

September 3, 1868
25 African-Americans in Georgia legislature, all Republicans, expelled by Democrat majority; later reinstated by Republican Congress

September 12, 1868
Civil rights activist Tunis Campbell and all other African-Americans in Georgia Senate, every one a Republican, expelled by Democrat majority; would later be reinstated by Republican Congress

“Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws… On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

October 7, 1868
Republicans denounce Democratic Party’s national campaign theme: “This is a white man’s country: Let white men rule”

October 22, 1868
While campaigning for re-election, Republican U.S. Rep. James Hinds (R-AR) is assassinated by Democrat terrorists who organized as the Ku Klux Klan

December 10, 1869
Republican Gov. John Campbell of Wyoming Territory signs FIRST-in-nation law granting women right to vote and to hold public office

February 3, 1870
After passing House with 98% Republican support and 97% Democrat opposition, Republicans’ 15th Amendment is ratified, granting vote to all Americans regardless of race

“Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws… On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

May 31, 1870
President U.S. Grant signs Republicans’ Enforcement Act, providing stiff penalties for depriving any American’s civil rights

June 22, 1870
Republican Congress creates U.S. Department of Justice, to safeguard the civil rights of African-Americans against Democrats in the South

September 6, 1870
Women vote in Wyoming, in FIRST election after women’s suffrage signed into law by Republican Gov. John Campbell

February 28, 1871
Republican Congress passes Enforcement Act providing federal protection for African-American voters

April 20, 1871
Republican Congress enacts the Ku Klux Klan Act, outlawing Democratic Party-affiliated terrorist groups which oppressed African-Americans

“Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws… On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

October 10, 1871
Following warnings by Philadelphia Democrats against black voting, African-American Republican civil rights activist Octavius Catto murdered by Democratic Party operative; his military funeral was attended by thousands

October 18, 1871
After violence against Republicans in South Carolina, President Ulysses Grant deploys U.S. troops to combat Democrat terrorists who formed the Ku Klux Klan

November 18, 1872
Susan B. Anthony arrested for voting, after boasting to Elizabeth Cady Stanton that she voted for “the Republican ticket, straight”

January 17, 1874
Armed Democrats seize Texas state government, ending Republican efforts to racially integrate government

September 14, 1874
Democrat white supremacists seize Louisiana statehouse in attempt to overthrow racially-integrated administration of Republican Governor William Kellogg; 27 killed

“Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws… On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

March 1, 1875
Civil Rights Act of 1875, guaranteeing access to public accommodations without regard to race, signed by Republican President U.S. Grant; passed with 92% Republican support over 100% Democrat opposition

January 10, 1878
U.S. Senator Aaron Sargent (R-CA) introduces Susan B. Anthony amendment for women’s suffrage; Democrat-controlled Senate defeated it 4 times before election of Republican House and Senate guaranteed its approval in 1919. Republicans foil Democratic efforts to keep women in the kitchen, where they belong

February 8, 1894
Democrat Congress and Democrat President Grover Cleveland join to repeal Republicans’ Enforcement Act, which had enabled African-Americans to vote

January 15, 1901
Republican Booker T. Washington protests Alabama Democratic Party’s refusal to permit voting by African-Americans

“Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws… On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

May 29, 1902
Virginia Democrats implement new state constitution, condemned by Republicans as illegal, reducing African-American voter registration by 86%

February 12, 1909
On 100th anniversary of Abraham Lincoln’s birth, African-American Republicans and women’s suffragists Ida Wells and Mary Terrell co-found the NAACP

May 21, 1919
Republican House passes constitutional amendment granting women the vote with 85% of Republicans in favor, but only 54% of Democrats; in Senate, 80% of Republicans would vote yes, but almost half of Democrats no

August 18, 1920
Republican-authored 19th Amendment, giving women the vote, becomes part of Constitution; 26 of the 36 states to ratify had Republican-controlled legislatures

January 26, 1922
House passes bill authored by U.S. Rep. Leonidas Dyer (R-MO) making lynching a federal crime; Senate Democrats block it with filibuster




June 2, 1924
Republican President Calvin Coolidge signs bill passed by Republican Congress granting U.S. citizenship to all Native Americans

October 3, 1924
Republicans denounce three-time Democrat presidential nominee William Jennings Bryan for defending the Ku Klux Klan at 1924 Democratic National Convention

June 12, 1929
First Lady Lou Hoover invites wife of U.S. Rep. Oscar De Priest (R-IL), an African-American, to tea at the White House, sparking protests by Democrats across the country

August 17, 1937
Republicans organize opposition to former Ku Klux Klansman and Democrat U.S. Senator Hugo Black, appointed to U.S. Supreme Court by FDR; his Klan background was hidden until after confirmation

June 24, 1940
Republican Party platform calls for integration of the armed forces; for the balance of his terms in office, FDR refuses to order it

“Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws… On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

August 8, 1945
Republicans condemn Harry Truman’s surprise use of the atomic bomb in Japan. The whining and criticism goes on for years. It begins two days after the Hiroshima bombing, when former Republican President Herbert Hoover writes to a friend that “The use of the atomic bomb, with its indiscriminate killing of women and children, revolts my soul.”

September 30, 1953
Earl Warren, California’s three-term Republican Governor and 1948 Republican vice presidential nominee, nominated to be Chief Justice; wrote landmark decision in Brown v. Board of Education

November 25, 1955
Eisenhower administration bans racial segregation of interstate bus travel

March 12, 1956
Ninety-seven Democrats in Congress condemn Supreme Court’s decision in Brown v. Board of Education, and pledge to continue segregation

June 5, 1956
Republican federal judge Frank Johnson rules in favor of Rosa Parks in decision striking down “blacks in the back of the bus” law

November 6, 1956
African-American civil rights leaders Martin Luther King and Ralph Abernathy vote for Republican Dwight Eisenhower for President

September 9, 1957
President Dwight Eisenhower signs Republican Party’s 1957 Civil Rights Act

“Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws… On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

September 24, 1957
Sparking criticism from Democrats such as Senators John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson, President Dwight Eisenhower deploys the 82nd Airborne Division to Little Rock, AR to force Democrat Governor Orval Faubus to integrate public schools

May 6, 1960
President Dwight Eisenhower signs Republicans’ Civil Rights Act of 1960, overcoming 125-hour, around-the-clock filibuster by 18 Senate Democrats

May 2, 1963
Republicans condemn Democrat sheriff of Birmingham, AL for arresting over 2,000 African-American schoolchildren marching for their civil rights

September 29, 1963
Gov. George Wallace (D-AL) defies order by U.S. District Judge Frank Johnson, appointed by President Dwight Eisenhower, to integrate Tuskegee High School

June 9, 1964
Republicans condemn 14-hour filibuster against 1964 Civil Rights Act by U.S. Senator and former Ku Klux Klansman Robert Byrd (D-WV), who still serves in the Senate

“Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws… On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

June 10, 1964
Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) criticizes Democrat filibuster against 1964 Civil Rights Act, calls on Democrats to stop opposing racial equality. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was introduced and approved by a staggering majority of Republicans in the Senate. The Act was opposed by most southern Democrat senators, several of whom were proud segregationists—one of them being Al Gore Sr. Democrat President Lyndon B. Johnson relied on Illinois Senator Everett Dirksen, the Republican leader from Illinois, to get the Act passed.

August 4, 1965
Senate Republican Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) overcomes Democrat attempts to block 1965 Voting Rights Act; 94% of Senate Republicans vote for landmark civil right legislation, while 27% of Democrats oppose. Voting Rights Act of 1965, abolishing literacy tests and other measures devised by Democrats to prevent African-Americans from voting, signed into law; higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats vote in favor

February 19, 1976
President Gerald Ford formally rescinds President Franklin Roosevelt’s notorious Executive Order authorizing internment of over 120,000 Japanese-Americans during WWII

September 15, 1981
President Ronald Reagan establishes the White House Initiative on Historically Black Colleges and Universities, to increase African-American participation in federal education programs

June 29, 1982
President Ronald Reagan signs 25-year extension of 1965 Voting Rights Act

August 10, 1988
President Ronald Reagan signs Civil Liberties Act of 1988, compensating Japanese-Americans for deprivation of civil rights and property during World War II internment ordered by FDR

November 21, 1991
President George H. W. Bush signs Civil Rights Act of 1991 to strengthen federal civil rights legislation

August 20, 1996
Bill authored by U.S. Rep. Susan Molinari (R-NY) to prohibit racial discrimination in adoptions, part of Republicans’ Contract With America, becomes law



DiveBomber4's photo
Fri 12/17/10 02:10 AM
I'd rather see the "family values" of the "white, Conservative, Christian, heterosexual, non-poor than the values of your beloved politicians and Hollywood entertainers.

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Fri 12/17/10 09:42 AM

I'd rather see the "family values" of the "white, Conservative, Christian, heterosexual, non-poor than the values of your beloved politicians and Hollywood entertainers.


the "religious right" is neither.

Bestinshow's photo
Sat 12/18/10 06:52 AM


I'd rather see the "family values" of the "white, Conservative, Christian, heterosexual, non-poor than the values of your beloved politicians and Hollywood entertainers.


the "religious right" is neither.
Its just the label they hide behind to promote the corperate agenda. When exposed they turn out to be wife cheaters and pedophiles of both sexes only the Fox news watching rubes in america buy into the crap they are selling. They have all the sincerity of a televangalist. If one stops and ponders the madness it will ruine your day. So now I will go put a battary in my daughters car since she came home from Kent State and got her job back for winter break and man it is brrrr out.

Dragoness's photo
Sat 12/18/10 06:02 PM


Lets explore what the conservative Republicans mean by family values.

From my research it means white heterosexual Christian nonpoor families. in other words they best not be asking for help from anyone.

I have been watching interviews and things from the conservatives.

There are alot of issues with this philosophy in this country. It is not healthy for us as a nation.








your research? haha.. show some data.. who did you interview, when did you interview them? what questions did you ask?

I look forward to your submission for peer review.. LMAO





Did you read what you quoted?slaphead

Dragoness's photo
Sat 12/18/10 06:06 PM

I'd rather see the "family values" of the "white, Conservative, Christian, heterosexual, non-poor than the values of your beloved politicians and Hollywood entertainers.


That is their family values. That you be white, conservative, Christian, heterosexual and non poor to matter in this country.

Dragoness's photo
Sat 12/18/10 06:15 PM
David hello

As usual I agree with some of what you wrote.

I refuse to believe that man is doomed by his ignorance. I believe man is capable of growing past this stall in brain activity you claim is insurmountable.

DiveBomber4's photo
Sat 12/18/10 06:38 PM


I'd rather see the "family values" of the "white, Conservative, Christian, heterosexual, non-poor than the values of your beloved politicians and Hollywood entertainers.


That is their family values. That you be white, conservative, Christian, heterosexual and non poor to matter in this country.
Wrong. Its a free country, nobody is forcing anyone to be a certain way, no matter how much you try to wish it to be.

davidben1's photo
Sun 12/19/10 09:08 AM

David hello

As usual I agree with some of what you wrote.

I refuse to believe that man is doomed by his ignorance. I believe man is capable of growing past this stall in brain activity you claim is insurmountable.


not imsurmountable...

i only said short of a proposed catopstrophic cosmic interference of LARGE MAGNITUDE, insurmountable.

the collective feelings humans are creating of self pride and self perception of EACH INDIVIDUAL ITSELF as correct, and only cling to what makes itself FEEL GOOD, is too strong for humans to resist, without extreme want or motivation for the sake of a diobolical need.

in other words, bad **** that humbles people, to make them concede they have been self serving ********, and not that ******** are bad, as without them all would die, but to be an ******* for the self pride, is totally different than to be an ******* against what wants to burn black people, just an anology as to the difference in motive.

so, this time around it shall not be a world war to humble mankind, and reduce it to ashes to start over, thank god, as the loss would be to large, but indeed, i predict with all certainty the cosmos itself with help mankind, with a severe proposed trauma to mankind, to make them HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER, and drop the extreme urge but to prove self correct for the sake of thinking itself smart or wise, even in the face of overwhelming evidence self was not even close to correct in it's self worshipped insight, nor in it's persuit of good based upon what suited it's own feelings as the holy grail of all truth.

anyhow.

just another day in infinity time, where all things that happen now, have already happened many times before in infinity time.

this 2012 thing shall prove to be what saves mankind from it's own ignorance, which ignorance is but pride in the self intellect, instead of pride in the intellect of others.

but then again, any human that finds all it's self worth, and worth in life, based upon its own intellect, shall of course, need someone to tell them they are not going to burn witches, or fagets, or christains, or NONE CHRISTAINS, WITHOUT A FIGHT from an assshole.