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Topic: Crabs in a Barrel
msharmony's photo
Thu 12/16/10 10:41 PM

Do you know what I dislike more than a Republican?







no clue

davidben1's photo
Thu 12/16/10 10:46 PM




well fucck...

so brilliant.

all humans are crabs in a barrel.

so whats new.

like this is some AMAZING BRILLINAT DATA FROM FLAPPYKAKN?

please...

it's nothing but a analogy SELECTIVELY APPLIED.

than used to pose oneself as brilliant to dumbarse followers, who cant see it says nothing that has not already been happening since the day of birth of human civilization.

but the dimwits who love to live out their own craze for self greatness, live vicariously through those they worship as great, and so make themself dumber and dumber each day, like a love sick puppy, who loves anyone that stokes it's head.

please...

creates a total victim menatlity.

and the victim has no idea itself is a loser victim,who nhas been convicned it's needs other LIKE brains and LIKE COLOR to think for it.

like what is so amazing abhout how crabs fight in a barrel?

so what?

crabs in a barrel fight each other to get to the top.

kids fight other kids, to be the top crab.

toddlers fight for the top of the slide.

school kids for the most popular.

parents fight other parents to be the top parent.

poloticians each other for top crab.

cops fight other cops for top cop.

look around.

schools fight to be top school.

army fights to be top crab over the marines.

SO IT'S NOT JUST POWERFUL WHITE PEOPLE!

BUT HE APPLIED IT TO THAT.

SO, THAT IS WHY ITS RACIST, AND BIGOTED.

period.

RACIST HATE MONGER CREATING A FOLLOWING WITH RACISM.

ENCITING TO HATE.

of course





he never said it was JUST powerful white people, and nothing there encited me to hate anyone

but how can one live in America and ignore the reality of it being founded upong SLAVES and SLAVEMASTERS and therefore making the analogy very relevant,, unfortunate, but not racist or hateful

perhaps its cultural that some people speak to their 'family' in such an honest way, but its not hate that inspires it


the "applied application" of anything, since there IS INFINITY OTHER THINGS TO APPLY IT TO, easily shows any BIAS, or pre-disposition, or the MOTIVE, or simply WHAT THE WORDS "CAN CREATE".

every human is a slave.

a slave mentality is the human existence.

a slave to work.

a slave to love.

a slave to friends.

a slave to sex.

a slave to religion.

a slave to pc.

a slave to government.

a slave, a slave, a slave.

husbands wish to enslave as a possession a "women for themself"...

a wife a "man for herself"...

a child "parents for itself"...

friends for itself...

so, applying and looking into slavery, by just seeing slavery in the context of blacks used to be slaves, IS BUT SHALLOW KNOWING POSED AS INSIGHT CAPABLE OF CREATING SOME GOOD CHANGE.

it is as worthless.

except to encite HATRED TOWWARD WHAT IS SHOWN TO ENSLAVE.

and what flappykahn appling it to?

whites enslaving blacks.

so, THE MOTIVE.

SHOWN IN THE CHOSEN APPLICATION OF THE INSIGHT.

it is but an observation, APPLIED TO CREATE THE DESIRED EFFECT FOR THE SELF MOTIVE.

you said you DO NOT EVER USE YOURSELF AS THE BAR.

but, you say it does not ENCITE HATE IN "YOU"...

that is USING YOURSELF, and whether YOU find words appealing, AS THE BAR OF THE TOTAL CAPABILITY OF WORDS...

an EXTREMELY BIASED WAY TO EVALUATE ANYTHING...

NOT ACCURATE TO ACCESS THE POWER OF WORDS "UNTO ALL".

so what if YOU DON'T HEAR HATE IN IT.

OTHERS DO.

WHY ARE YOU CORRECT, AND YOUR PERCEPTION VALID, AND OTHERS' PERCEPTION'S NOT DEEMED TO BE AS WELL?

i need not tell you that you are wrong, as i believe you, that you do not feel "hate" from the words...

HOWEVER, YOU ARE ONE PERSON.

YOUR "FEELINGS" FROM THE WORDS, DO NOT TELL THE TOTAL SUM OF "FEELINGS POSSIBLE" IN ALL OTHER HUMANS.

that is BIAS TOWARD SELF.

using self as some sort of supreme "feeling" bar for all other humans.

favoring the self perception as the GUIDE OF ALL THAT IS TRUE.

the fact that inference is drawn TO WHITE POWERFUL PEOPLE, shows the bias...

NOW, IF IT SAID, POWERFUL PEOPLE, THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT.

but, still biased TOWARD POWERFUL PEOPLE.

MANY POWERFUL PEOPLE PULL CRABS FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL TO THE TOP.

SO, AGAIN, TOTALLY BIASED, ONLY PROVING WHAT FLAPPYKAHN "WANTS" TO PROVE WITH THE DATA.

TO SUTIE HIS "OWN FEELINGS", AS HIS OWN AGENDA.

AS THERE ARE POWERFUL BLACK PEOPLE, WHO TRY TO FIGHT THE OTHER CRABS, BLACK OR WHITE, IN FACT, YOUR FIGHTING JUST NOW TO PROVE YOUR "CRAB" PERCEPTION AS THE FINAL TOTAL TRUTH.

by saying YOU don't feel hate in it, or HEAR racism in it.

it is important to recognize, that racism is in it's root form, JUST THE SELF PERCEPTION AS "BETTER THAN", or MORE TRUE, OR MORE ACCURATE, THAN OTHERS.

so, one would then recognize just how seeped in racism, or a greater than mentality ALL HUMANS NATURALLY ARE.

the first mistake, was to define "racism" as simply WHITES THINKING THEY ARE BETTER THAN BLACKS...

as, blacks can naturally think they are "better than" whites as well, and gearing the word racism toward just race, hinders the insight from seeing ANY TRUE GREATER THAN MENTALITY.

is is born when humans are born.

it is shed via human existence.

IF IT DULY SEEN TO EXIST WHERE IT EXIST.

EVERYWHERE AND IN EVERYTHING.




alrighty then, I shall make two brief points

the first is that I didnt say this anywhere

'WHY ARE YOU CORRECT, AND YOUR PERCEPTION VALID, AND OTHERS' PERCEPTION'S NOT DEEMED TO BE AS WELL? '

in fact, I said some will get the message and others wont(with no reference to correctness)


secondly, some BIAS is not the same as racism, If I am speaking to my children about THEIR experience at school today, I am biased towards them because of the COMMON bond we share, nowhere in that bias though does it conclude that I hate or feel better than anyone else and their experience


in fact, on the one hand, the argument is being made that no persons should set themself as a bar for a larger group, and then on the other hand the argument is being made that Farrakhan is guilty of specifying subcategories of groups instead of a group at large, and that is somehow bad too,,,,

which is it?


he speaks most often to crowds of black people, he is a man who grew up in a segregated america as a black man, there is the commonality and the audience which creates such a BIAS topic, I understand some think it is racist and I am one of many who dont


its really not that complex...




what breeds a greater than mentality within society is a large deal.

a very fuccking large deal.

as it creates every last thing that humans hate within their environment.

but, then no one would expect a "follower of flappykahn" to use their brain to prove anything but their OWN perception as valid on the issue.

of course.

what else would be expected.

however, bias is bias.

large or small.

small bias turns to large bias, and large bias to racism, or a huge greater than mentality.

make all the brief points you wish.

it changes not the validity of one word written by any another human.

see, in true real life, many perceptions can be valid.

no different than ten perceptions staring at a portrait.

a small brain thinks their own view of the portrait is the ONLY TRUE.

that other brains 'wont get it', a total greater than mentality.

the only brain not getting A PIECE OF THE TOTAL PIECES, IS ONE THAT DENIES FLAPPYKAHN IS A BIGOTED RACIST.

intentional or not, changes not the fact that it still exist.

as indeed, the road to hell is paved with self declared "wise intellect" and self declared "good intentions"...

of course, you AGREE WITH HIM, so you favor and try to prove how he is "doing a service".

one could EASILY, IF THEY WISHED, PROVE HOW HE WAS NOT DOING ANY SERVICE BUT TO CREATE MORE ANIMOSITY.

that comes first from CREATING IN A PERSON, A PLAY ON THEIR FEELINGS, CONVINCING THEM THEY ARE SOME KIND OF A VICTIM.

a severe "victim mentality".

fostered by the flappykahn of hate.

AND, HOW DO HUMANS FEEL ABOUT "WHO" VICTIMIZED THEM?

DISLIKE.

MALICE.

HATE.



just because you can't see how hate as bigotry is propogated by such rhetoric, does not mean it is not.

but, then what would one expect to be the case, when nothing but the feelings of self are being used to access the total possibles created from words.

what this post is speaking of is the TOTAL POSSIBLE FEELINGS CREATED IN 'ALL HUMANS' FROM WORDS.

not the FEELINGS CREATED IN YOU.

nor in me.

not a stich of logic contained within any reasoning, unless ALL THE POSSIBLES OF ALL WORDS ARE APPLIED TO "ALL THINGS", NOT JUST ONESELF.

that is not logic.

that is self feelers.












Fanta46's photo
Thu 12/16/10 10:50 PM


Do you know what I dislike more than a Republican?







no clue



A liar..

Oh wait,
that's paradoxical.

msharmony's photo
Thu 12/16/10 10:54 PM
just because you can't see how hate as bigotry is propogated by such rhetoric, does not mean it is not



likewise, just because you interpret words 'as such' does not mean they are meant that way


so we can agree we both see something different, and we are both right to ourselves, and leave it at thatwinking

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Thu 12/16/10 11:54 PM

just because you can't see how hate as bigotry is propogated by such rhetoric, does not mean it is not



likewise, just because you interpret words 'as such' does not mean they are meant that way


so we can agree we both see something different, and we are both right to ourselves, and leave it at thatwinking


ah, standard operating procedure from a self favored perception, lol...

quite to the contraire...

the "applied application" of the anology shows BIAS, AS BIGOTRY, in the essence of the words.

therefore creating possibel hate or malice toward POWERFUL WHITE PEOPLE.

you do not concede such can be created by simple logical deduction.

you are simply using a total rebuttal logic in refuting such things can indeed create racism or bigotry or a malice within the human emotions...

lol...

just because you don't want it to be so.

sorry, that does nothing to prove such is not the case.

perhaps some enhanced comprehension studies of applied logic would increase the comprehension basics in the matter of applied logical reasoning.

that is deducting the total essence of anything possible, BY INCLUDING ALL POSSIBLES INTO THE TOTAL EQUASION.

it is obvious you have no want to know or knowing of such things, lol...

but then, who does, that uses themself as the bar of all things that are possible.

if you say no one can know if racism as malice be the motive of flappykahn, than indeed, equal application of the same logic also means no one know if it IS NOT, so then no words on the subject have any meaning, as all POOSIBLES ARE THEN RENDERED MEANINGLESS.

if meaningless, than we can conclude all your words are meaningless, and i will concede all mine are, lol...

mine are based in total applied logic.

mine are not refuting any of your words.

all of your words are but a refuting of mine, lol...

whether you care to notice such or not, i could care less.

i know my total deduction is accurate.

because it leaves out NO POSSIBLES AS TRUE.

yours leaves out all possibles as MEANINGFUL, EXCEPT YOUR OWN.

FUNNY HOW SUCH WORKS.

what a one way street.

what a one way brain operation.

what a one way one sided biased self favoring deduction of all things such will create in the human mind.

this in science is called a total closed mind to anything except what self thinks as supreme.

not logical.

i do not compute the desirable effects of such.

in fact, devasting to the increasing of any intelligence.

as the mind is used but to simply prove the assessment of self alone at all times, leaving no increasing of the perception, which is the increasing of understanding of OTHER HUMANS.

and why they say what they say.

has nothing to do with how SELF FEELS ABOUT IT.

if someone says he is creating HATE, THAN ONE MUST FIND OUT HOW.

lest SELF THINKS IT'S PERCEPTION IS SUPREME.

but indeed, such is obvious.




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Fri 12/17/10 02:48 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 12/17/10 03:02 AM


just because you can't see how hate as bigotry is propogated by such rhetoric, does not mean it is not



likewise, just because you interpret words 'as such' does not mean they are meant that way


so we can agree we both see something different, and we are both right to ourselves, and leave it at thatwinking


ah, standard operating procedure from a self favored perception, lol...

quite to the contraire...

the "applied application" of the anology shows BIAS, AS BIGOTRY, in the essence of the words.

therefore creating possibel hate or malice toward POWERFUL WHITE PEOPLE.

you do not concede such can be created by simple logical deduction.

you are simply using a total rebuttal logic in refuting such things can indeed create racism or bigotry or a malice within the human emotions...

lol...

just because you don't want it to be so.

sorry, that does nothing to prove such is not the case.

perhaps some enhanced comprehension studies of applied logic would increase the comprehension basics in the matter of applied logical reasoning.

that is deducting the total essence of anything possible, BY INCLUDING ALL POSSIBLES INTO THE TOTAL EQUASION.

it is obvious you have no want to know or knowing of such things, lol...

but then, who does, that uses themself as the bar of all things that are possible.

if you say no one can know if racism as malice be the motive of flappykahn, than indeed, equal application of the same logic also means no one know if it IS NOT, so then no words on the subject have any meaning, as all POOSIBLES ARE THEN RENDERED MEANINGLESS.

if meaningless, than we can conclude all your words are meaningless, and i will concede all mine are, lol...

mine are based in total applied logic.

mine are not refuting any of your words.

all of your words are but a refuting of mine, lol...

whether you care to notice such or not, i could care less.

i know my total deduction is accurate.

because it leaves out NO POSSIBLES AS TRUE.

yours leaves out all possibles as MEANINGFUL, EXCEPT YOUR OWN.

FUNNY HOW SUCH WORKS.

what a one way street.

what a one way brain operation.

what a one way one sided biased self favoring deduction of all things such will create in the human mind.

this in science is called a total closed mind to anything except what self thinks as supreme.

not logical.

i do not compute the desirable effects of such.

in fact, devasting to the increasing of any intelligence.

as the mind is used but to simply prove the assessment of self alone at all times, leaving no increasing of the perception, which is the increasing of understanding of OTHER HUMANS.

and why they say what they say.

has nothing to do with how SELF FEELS ABOUT IT.

if someone says he is creating HATE, THAN ONE MUST FIND OUT HOW.

but indeed, such is obvious.







how passionate and long for one who is so enlightened as to not believe he is right ? ,,,lol


"lest SELF THINKS IT'S PERCEPTION IS SUPREME."


I am far from closed minded, in fact, I will take the discussion further along the plane of LOGIC and suggest that it is the closed mind that insists to ponder 'if someone says he is creating HATE, THAN ONE MUST FIND OUT HOW' , while refusing to do just that when listening to that they deem as being 'hateful' , perhaps those who listen have just as much obligation to research and understand the what and why of the speech before blindly condemning its words based only on the 'potential' effect of the speech

the truth is that the minister speaks to an audience who understands his perception, obviously, and the truth is I would be shocked if there is not a significantly smaller number of what we would assume were hateful actions amongst those who do listen to his words compared to the general public or even the population of black people at large,,,,,how could this be if his words are indeed so HATEFUL?


we have a saying in my culture, some may have been exposed to it in Michael Jacksons last film,,,,we say 'with love',,,which means we are going to say the truth to each other and talk about difficult things even when it may be hurtful or hard to hear , but that we dont talk about them TO BE HURTFUL , but out of love and out of that love, a desire to guide each other away from harm and towards health and happiness..

I respect your perception, I never called it meaningless nor stated whether it was 'correct'


as to what creates hate, logic also dictates that hate begets hate and history can either be ignored like the elephant in the room or discussed openly or honestly however 'hateful' people may become about it


just as discussing the holocaust may 'incite hate' amongst jewish people towards germans, or discussing rape may 'incite hate' amongst women towards men, it makes it no less honest or necessary a discussion to have nor does it make those speakers to be disregarded or their speech be stigmatized because they speak a of experience which is hurtful enough to incite such a powerful emotion of 'hate' in some


to each their own, I have conceded several times that we both believe we are right, and thats cool too,,,,

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Fri 12/17/10 08:27 AM
ah...

lol...

so you think you have MORE LOGIC, msharmony, or can carry all further down the plane of logic...

what is your logic based upon thenb dear one?

what is your bar, to measure your knowing by?

to deem it RIGHT, and logical?

and to make such claim, one would need to as well provide a DEFINITION OF "LOGIC"...

one cannot claim it has EXCELLENT ANYTHING, without first DEFINING WHAT IT CLAIMS TO BE "EXPERT" IN.

so, a definition of LOGIC is indeed neeed and of UTMOST IMPORTANCE IN THE MATTER OF CLAMING ONE HATH "LOGIC"...

sounds like a nothing but a self favoring feelings as the bar for all others, which is no logic to me, lol...

which is no logic at all...

as logic is beyond the FEELINGS, OR KNOWING THAT SUPERCEDES THE "SELF FEELINGS"....

one that resides in logic, never refers to ITSELF, or about how itself FEELS about something or anything, as this indicates using the self feelings as the guide of what all other humans FEEL, and therefore using SELF FEELINGS, to deem if OTHERS FEELINGS ARE ACCURATE OR NOT.

all FEELINGS are ACCURATE.

they all SIMPLY TELL OF WHAT ANOTHER HUMAN IS.

there is no accurate or not accurate.

it is only about WHAT SHALL THESE FEELINGS CREATE, IF THEY ARE EMBRACED, or accpeted within self as GOOD ONES.

lest of course, one has come to believe THAT ALL SELF FEELINGS OF HUMANS ARE "GOOD ONES"...

ah, but then one with no logic, but rather ONLY THINKING ITSELF DOES, BECAUSE THAT SOUNDS NICE TO BELIEVE OF SELF, will certainly always still refer to how SELF FEELS OR THINKS IN THE MATTER.

these words are based upon HOW ALL OTHERS HAVE SPOKEN "THEY FEEL" ABOUT SUCH MATTERS OF FLAPPYKAHN.

if you actually DEEMED THOSE THAT SAID FLAPPYKAHN CREATED HATE AS RIGHT, IN TRUE REALITY, HOW COULD ONE STILL EMBRACE SUCH?

in fact, it is obvious by the words, you deem it as TOTALLY NOT CORRECT.

does one think it has to speak such exactely to be known?

lol...

if you think i am speaking about how I FEEL, about flappykahns words, you would be MISTAKEN...

rather, MANY, MANY, see and feel how such promotes HATE, and how such tactics are but used by SELF OPPORTUNISTS, to encite ALLLEGIANCE in followers...

to proucre and promote self as NEEDED, AND WISER, AND THEREFORE DULY WORTHY OF ACCEPTING MANY FINE LAVISH GIFTS FROM THE FAITHFUL TO SELF FOLLOWERS...

oh, but since you declare me to be as RIGHT, then indeed, WE CAN PROCEDE WITH HIS HATE FILLED SPEECH, as a detriment to society.

AS I AGREE WITH YOU.

HATE SPEWED BY THIS MAN, WILL ONLY CREATE MORE HATE.

oh, but perhaps you recant your statement that I AM CORRECT AS WELL AS YOU?

for i said with all emphasis and that ALL MY FELLOW MAN THAT SEE HE CREATES HATE, ARE MORE CORRECT than those whom are HIS FOLLOWERS...

as indeed, you hide not your love and allegiance to his "ministry"...

lol...

soon you will see he is a self promomter, ESTABLISHING HIS OWN KINDGOM, AND FOLLOWING, AND REAPING BY TAKING THE CONTRIBUTIONS FROM SUCH, AND LICVING THE LIFE OF A "KING ON EARTH"...

i thought only "god" the ONE KING recognized by humble followers?

you will find him soon exposed for all manner of secret backdoor self opportunist ways to, as his total words tell the tale of but PROMOTE SELF, by using RACISM AND MALICE TO DO IT....

to even begin to SPEAK OF THE GRAND GOOD HITLER DID, BY MAKING GERMANY A GREAT NATION...

fucck that ego maniac flappykahn...

HITLER MADE GERMANY A GREAT NATION?

ENSLAVED THEM AS WORKERS OF THE FURER...

AND USED THE SLAUGHTER OF THE JEWS TO MAKE GERMANY GREAT.

THE TWO GO HAND IN HAND.

and you cannot see that FLAPPYKAHN WOULD THEN EMBRACE A "GERMAN REICH" WITHIN AMERICA, OR ANYWHERE ELSE?

are you for real...

and you say you have logic?

what again i pray thee, is your logic based upon?

THAT HITLER WAS A GREAT MAN AS WELL?

that hitler was great, IF HE JUST WOULD NOT HAVE KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?

NO FUCCKING HUMAN, THAT COULD EVEN BEGIN TO ALLOW THE KILLING OF SIX MILLION JEWS, EVER, EVER, EVER, HAD ONE SHREED OF GOOD IN THEM!

PERIOD.

can oyu do great in your life, AND THEN LATER COME TO EMBRACE THE SLAUGHTER OF SIX MILLION PEOPLE, AND BELIEVE OTHERS ARE TO STILL THINK OF YOU AS HAVING DONE SOME GOOD?

OR BEING A PERSON WITH "INTEGRITY"?

integrity is caring about others MORE THAN ONSELF.

hitler was a EXTREMIST WITH DELUSIONS OF SELF GRANDEAUR, HIS FUCCKING ENTIRE LIFE.

WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOOD OF GOD, OR GOOD OF THE COMMON MAN.

but, ole flappykahn IS THE SAME, AND WHY HE COULD EVEN SUGGEST THERE WERE GOOD TRAITS OF HITLER, OF COURSE, ALONG WITH THE GENOCIDE...

CAN GENOCIDE EXIST IN SOMETHING, WITH GOOD BESIDE IT AS WELL?

please...

as if jeffery damher was a GOOD PERSON, AND AT THE SAME TIME, EATING THE FLESH OF OTHER HUMANS, FOR "HIS OWN PLEASURE"...

totally unsane.

but, the flappykahn is "minister"...

JUST AS UNSANE AS HILTER, IF HE EMBRACES ANY GOOD IN HITLER OR IN HITLERS WAYS.

oh, but since he likes to fancy himself a MINISTER OF GOD, he is correct...

hah...

a wolf in sheeps clothing.

a demon strait from the pits of hell...

oh, but i think that is borrowing from the RELIGIONS OF THE WORLD...

those that claim many others are demons, but never having inspected themself for any DEMON TENDENCIES OF SELF OPPORTUNISM, LOL...

and by the way, i thought each human is EQUAL in the realm of "god"...

hence the saying, there are none greater than another?

than who made up that minsiters somehow hear more from "god" than others anyhow?

why the ministers themself, lol...

but then these that say and claim to be ministers of "GOD", certainly believe no such thing, that ALL ARE EQUAL, for the could never deem the "lambs" need a leader as themself, lol...

oh, but they never even included themself as a dumb ignorant lamb, or they could not POSE THEMSELF AS A LEADER OF PEOPLE, LOL...

what a bunch of hypocricy.

FOLLOW THE FLAPPYKAHN.

for he walks straight toward his own cliff.

and each one of his followers the same.

they all consider themself MORE KNOWING OF GOD, AND MANY OTHERS AS HEATHENS.

HAH...

these indeed do NEED A BRAVE LEADER, A MINISTER OF GOD, TO GUIDE THEM, in their self induced stupidity, that came the day they thought of themself as HAVING SPECIAL STATUS WITH SOME CREATOR, LOL...

some exclusive truth of GOD...

only a bunch of idiots would follow flappykahn.

and i agree with you...

and your anology...

these are truthful loving things, not intended to hurt, as love is...

brilliant anology you used by the way.

if it is applied equally TO ALL PEOPLE IN ALL SITUATIONS...

oh the inequity of unequalism amoungst the self declared SPEAKERS OF GOD...

they wouldnt recognize a enslaver of themself, until they were bound and gagged and gased in torture chambers.

flappykahn is no more than a HATE INSPIRER.

and make mo mistake.

a hitler wannabe.

as indeed, what one thinks is GREAT, ITSELF SHALL BECOME IF GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY.

i have no problem deeming MY LOGIC SUPERIOR, if another FIRST INSISTS THEIRS IS SUPERIOR, in all manner of defense and rebuttal...

oh yea...

and what IS YOUR definition of logic anyhow?

and what is the bar for the basis of your logic?

so we can further enjoy this "love" session.

damn...

yippie kai yai...






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Fri 12/17/10 08:43 AM
Edited by metalwing on Fri 12/17/10 08:48 AM
The number of hate speeches this guy has delivered is constant and incredible.

"Farrakhan In His Own Words RULE Introduction
UPDATED: October 8, 2010
Introduction
On Jews On 'Jewish Conspiracies' On the Holocaust
On Jewish Involvement in the Slave Trade
On Israel On Dialogue with Jews On Whites On U.S. Government On Homosexuals On 'Mainstream' Blacks

For nearly 30 years, Louis Farrakhan has marked himself a notable figure on the extremist scene by making hateful statements targeting Jews, whites and homosexuals.

Farrakhan's bigoted and anti-Semitic rhetoric has included statements calling whites "blue eyed devils" and Jews "bloodsuckers" that controlled the slave trade, the government, the media, Hollywood and various Black individuals and organizations. He frequently denies that Jews have a legitimate claim to their religion and to the land of Israel.

On October 3, 2010, Farrakhan delivered the latest installment of a highly anti-Semitic lecture series. In three addresses since June, Farrakhan has downplayed historical Jewish suffering, accused Jews of world domination and promoted anti-Semitic charges of Jewish deicide. He has also repeated many of his past accusations about Jewish involvement in the transatlantic slave trade, Jewish exploitation of Black labor in the cotton trade, and Jewish control over government, finance and entertainment. ..."

http://www.adl.org/special_reports/farrakhan_own_words2/farrakhan_own_words.asp


"“I heard from a very reliable source that under that levee there was a 25 foot hole, which suggested that it may have been blown up, so that the water would destroy the black part of town, and where the whites lived, it would be dry.”
Remarks at Shelter for Hurricane Katrina Victims, Charlotte Coliseum, Charlotte, North Carolina, 9/12/05"

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Fri 12/17/10 11:17 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 12/17/10 11:36 AM

ah...

lol...

so you think you have MORE LOGIC, msharmony, or can carry all further down the plane of logic...

what is your logic based upon thenb dear one?

what is your bar, to measure your knowing by?

to deem it RIGHT, and logical?

and to make such claim, one would need to as well provide a DEFINITION OF "LOGIC"...

one cannot claim it has EXCELLENT ANYTHING, without first DEFINING WHAT IT CLAIMS TO BE "EXPERT" IN.

so, a definition of LOGIC is indeed neeed and of UTMOST IMPORTANCE IN THE MATTER OF CLAMING ONE HATH "LOGIC"...

sounds like a nothing but a self favoring feelings as the bar for all others, which is no logic to me, lol...

which is no logic at all...

as logic is beyond the FEELINGS, OR KNOWING THAT SUPERCEDES THE "SELF FEELINGS"....

one that resides in logic, never refers to ITSELF, or about how itself FEELS about something or anything, as this indicates using the self feelings as the guide of what all other humans FEEL, and therefore using SELF FEELINGS, to deem if OTHERS FEELINGS ARE ACCURATE OR NOT.

all FEELINGS are ACCURATE.

they all SIMPLY TELL OF WHAT ANOTHER HUMAN IS.

there is no accurate or not accurate.

it is only about WHAT SHALL THESE FEELINGS CREATE, IF THEY ARE EMBRACED, or accpeted within self as GOOD ONES.

lest of course, one has come to believe THAT ALL SELF FEELINGS OF HUMANS ARE "GOOD ONES"...

ah, but then one with no logic, but rather ONLY THINKING ITSELF DOES, BECAUSE THAT SOUNDS NICE TO BELIEVE OF SELF, will certainly always still refer to how SELF FEELS OR THINKS IN THE MATTER.

these words are based upon HOW ALL OTHERS HAVE SPOKEN "THEY FEEL" ABOUT SUCH MATTERS OF FLAPPYKAHN.

if you actually DEEMED THOSE THAT SAID FLAPPYKAHN CREATED HATE AS RIGHT, IN TRUE REALITY, HOW COULD ONE STILL EMBRACE SUCH?

in fact, it is obvious by the words, you deem it as TOTALLY NOT CORRECT.

does one think it has to speak such exactely to be known?

lol...

if you think i am speaking about how I FEEL, about flappykahns words, you would be MISTAKEN...

rather, MANY, MANY, see and feel how such promotes HATE, and how such tactics are but used by SELF OPPORTUNISTS, to encite ALLLEGIANCE in followers...

to proucre and promote self as NEEDED, AND WISER, AND THEREFORE DULY WORTHY OF ACCEPTING MANY FINE LAVISH GIFTS FROM THE FAITHFUL TO SELF FOLLOWERS...

oh, but since you declare me to be as RIGHT, then indeed, WE CAN PROCEDE WITH HIS HATE FILLED SPEECH, as a detriment to society.

AS I AGREE WITH YOU.

HATE SPEWED BY THIS MAN, WILL ONLY CREATE MORE HATE.

oh, but perhaps you recant your statement that I AM CORRECT AS WELL AS YOU?

for i said with all emphasis and that ALL MY FELLOW MAN THAT SEE HE CREATES HATE, ARE MORE CORRECT than those whom are HIS FOLLOWERS...

as indeed, you hide not your love and allegiance to his "ministry"...

lol...

soon you will see he is a self promomter, ESTABLISHING HIS OWN KINDGOM, AND FOLLOWING, AND REAPING BY TAKING THE CONTRIBUTIONS FROM SUCH, AND LICVING THE LIFE OF A "KING ON EARTH"...

i thought only "god" the ONE KING recognized by humble followers?

you will find him soon exposed for all manner of secret backdoor self opportunist ways to, as his total words tell the tale of but PROMOTE SELF, by using RACISM AND MALICE TO DO IT....

to even begin to SPEAK OF THE GRAND GOOD HITLER DID, BY MAKING GERMANY A GREAT NATION...

fucck that ego maniac flappykahn...

HITLER MADE GERMANY A GREAT NATION?

ENSLAVED THEM AS WORKERS OF THE FURER...

AND USED THE SLAUGHTER OF THE JEWS TO MAKE GERMANY GREAT.

THE TWO GO HAND IN HAND.

and you cannot see that FLAPPYKAHN WOULD THEN EMBRACE A "GERMAN REICH" WITHIN AMERICA, OR ANYWHERE ELSE?

are you for real...

and you say you have logic?

what again i pray thee, is your logic based upon?

THAT HITLER WAS A GREAT MAN AS WELL?

that hitler was great, IF HE JUST WOULD NOT HAVE KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?

NO FUCCKING HUMAN, THAT COULD EVEN BEGIN TO ALLOW THE KILLING OF SIX MILLION JEWS, EVER, EVER, EVER, HAD ONE SHREED OF GOOD IN THEM!

PERIOD.

can oyu do great in your life, AND THEN LATER COME TO EMBRACE THE SLAUGHTER OF SIX MILLION PEOPLE, AND BELIEVE OTHERS ARE TO STILL THINK OF YOU AS HAVING DONE SOME GOOD?

OR BEING A PERSON WITH "INTEGRITY"?

integrity is caring about others MORE THAN ONSELF.

hitler was a EXTREMIST WITH DELUSIONS OF SELF GRANDEAUR, HIS FUCCKING ENTIRE LIFE.

WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOOD OF GOD, OR GOOD OF THE COMMON MAN.

but, ole flappykahn IS THE SAME, AND WHY HE COULD EVEN SUGGEST THERE WERE GOOD TRAITS OF HITLER, OF COURSE, ALONG WITH THE GENOCIDE...

CAN GENOCIDE EXIST IN SOMETHING, WITH GOOD BESIDE IT AS WELL?

please...

as if jeffery damher was a GOOD PERSON, AND AT THE SAME TIME, EATING THE FLESH OF OTHER HUMANS, FOR "HIS OWN PLEASURE"...

totally unsane.

but, the flappykahn is "minister"...

JUST AS UNSANE AS HILTER, IF HE EMBRACES ANY GOOD IN HITLER OR IN HITLERS WAYS.

oh, but since he likes to fancy himself a MINISTER OF GOD, he is correct...

hah...

a wolf in sheeps clothing.

a demon strait from the pits of hell...

oh, but i think that is borrowing from the RELIGIONS OF THE WORLD...

those that claim many others are demons, but never having inspected themself for any DEMON TENDENCIES OF SELF OPPORTUNISM, LOL...

and by the way, i thought each human is EQUAL in the realm of "god"...

hence the saying, there are none greater than another?

than who made up that minsiters somehow hear more from "god" than others anyhow?

why the ministers themself, lol...

but then these that say and claim to be ministers of "GOD", certainly believe no such thing, that ALL ARE EQUAL, for the could never deem the "lambs" need a leader as themself, lol...

oh, but they never even included themself as a dumb ignorant lamb, or they could not POSE THEMSELF AS A LEADER OF PEOPLE, LOL...

what a bunch of hypocricy.

FOLLOW THE FLAPPYKAHN.

for he walks straight toward his own cliff.

and each one of his followers the same.

they all consider themself MORE KNOWING OF GOD, AND MANY OTHERS AS HEATHENS.

HAH...

these indeed do NEED A BRAVE LEADER, A MINISTER OF GOD, TO GUIDE THEM, in their self induced stupidity, that came the day they thought of themself as HAVING SPECIAL STATUS WITH SOME CREATOR, LOL...

some exclusive truth of GOD...

only a bunch of idiots would follow flappykahn.

and i agree with you...

and your anology...

these are truthful loving things, not intended to hurt, as love is...

brilliant anology you used by the way.

if it is applied equally TO ALL PEOPLE IN ALL SITUATIONS...

oh the inequity of unequalism amoungst the self declared SPEAKERS OF GOD...

they wouldnt recognize a enslaver of themself, until they were bound and gagged and gased in torture chambers.

flappykahn is no more than a HATE INSPIRER.

and make mo mistake.

a hitler wannabe.

as indeed, what one thinks is GREAT, ITSELF SHALL BECOME IF GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY.

i have no problem deeming MY LOGIC SUPERIOR, if another FIRST INSISTS THEIRS IS SUPERIOR, in all manner of defense and rebuttal...

oh yea...

and what IS YOUR definition of logic anyhow?

and what is the bar for the basis of your logic?

so we can further enjoy this "love" session.

damn...

yippie kai yai...





I apologize to other minglers for the length of this response, but here it goes

ONE BY ONE,,


QUESTION 1 "so you think you have MORE LOGIC, msharmony, or can carry all further down the plane of logic..."

My ANSWER,,,,no, I have not made this a competition of logic as I have conceded many times that it is about perception and belief and that we have two seperate and different interpretations based upon our own perceptions and beliefs, Logic was a concept introduced by you


QUESTION 2 "what is your logic based upon thenb dear one?"

My ANSWER...well , lets take a look at ONE use of the term logic

b (1) : a particular mode of reasoning viewed as valid or faulty (2


my mode of reasoning is based upon the same things yours are, my perception of what I hear and read and later express here, in this forum, just as everyone else does


QUESTION 3 "what is your bar, to measure your knowing by?

to deem it RIGHT, and logical? "


My ANSWER, this idea of right and wrong keeps injecting itself in your posts, not mine

would it be more comfortable if I expressed my belief and opinion as wrong and illogical,, I believe my self to be as right and logical as you believe yourself to be


CHALLENGE 1 "and to make such claim, one would need to as well provide a DEFINITION OF "LOGIC"...

my ANSWER,.,,see above



STATEMENT "one cannot claim it has EXCELLENT ANYTHING, without first DEFINING WHAT IT CLAIMS TO BE "EXPERT" IN.

my ANSWER, and indeed this ONE has not claimed any such thing,,,


CLAIM one "one that resides in logic, never refers to ITSELF, or about how itself FEELS about something or anything, as this indicates using the self feelings as the guide of what all other humans FEEL, and therefore using SELF FEELINGS, to deem if OTHERS FEELINGS ARE ACCURATE OR NOT"


my ANSWER... because ONE prefers to use pronouns does not make one any more or less logical than another who uses more specific references

by the above definition " b (1) : a particular mode of reasoning viewed as valid or faulty " , logic has nothing to do with whether one one uses their own observation or someone elses or some concept from a book,,, at least not the 'logic' I was referring to...


CLAIM two "sounds like a nothing but a self favoring feelings as the bar for all others, which is no logic to me, lol... "

My ANSWER, I feel like that too, such long reprimands certainly SEEM to me like a self favoring of someone who sees their 'logic' as a bar of reason,,,


CLAIM three "all FEELINGS are ACCURATE"

my ANSWER, wow sure doesnt SEEM like you believe that one, as I have conceded this very thing about your feelings several times now with no aknowledgement or change in the mood of the discussion,,,


CLAIM four "if you actually DEEMED THOSE THAT SAID FLAPPYKAHN CREATED HATE AS RIGHT, IN TRUE REALITY, HOW COULD ONE STILL EMBRACE SUCH?"


my ANSWER, this is one of those statements where the ambiguous subject verb agreement makes the interpretation difficult, BUT

if the SUCH you are referring to is Farrakhan, I can embrace him because he doesnt incite HATE in me and I likewise dont demand that those for whom he incites hate or whom he offends do the same

I can embrace him because I dont have a bar of perfection for any person and I am inspired and motivated by MOST of what I hear from him, no need for me to agree with EVERYTHING He says as I dont even agree with my own family members about EVERYTHING, and yet they still inspire me too(although they may have encountered those in their life who felt HATRED towards them too, and that was THEIR perogative)


STATEMENT "if you think i am speaking about how I FEEL, about flappykahns words, you would be MISTAKEN...

rather, MANY, MANY, see and feel how such promotes HATE, and how such tactics are but used by SELF OPPORTUNISTS, to encite ALLLEGIANCE in followers... "


my ANSWER....you are speaking about how you feel and even if others share those feelings doesnt change that you are speaking about how you feel


STATEMENT "HATE SPEWED BY THIS MAN, WILL ONLY CREATE MORE HATE"


my ANSWER.....the use of the term 'only' makes this an obvious false statement,, as I have listened to him and (as you stated about your feelings) 'many others' have listened to him and been motivated and inspired and not hateful at all,,,


STATEMENT "for i said with all emphasis and that ALL MY FELLOW MAN THAT SEE HE CREATES HATE, ARE MORE CORRECT than those whom are HIS FOLLOWERS"

my ANSWER....I wouldnt know precisely as my agreeing with him doesnt make me his 'follower' any more than I am following others in these forums whose opinions and ideas I agree with

as far as hate, it was created long before any of us were here, and I can see very clearly that what he speaks encourages some people to be MORE hateful, but not saying it would not decrease the hate that is already there,,,


next QUESTION "are you for real... "

my ANSWER,,,lol, are you? ,,,, seems like thou dost protest too much


next QUESTION "what again i pray thee, is your logic based upon? "

my ANSWER, ironically my logic here is based upon the ENGLISH language,, which the minister happens to be well versed at


one definition of great is this : remarkable in magnitude, degree, or effectiveness

the definition of good is this: a (1) : of a favorable character or tendency


Farrakhan didnt say Hitler was good, Farrakhan said hitler was Great,, but many illogical thinkers believe great is the superlative of good instead of truly looking into the english language and its usage

indeed, if Hitler was not remarkable in magnitude, how did he come to be such a WELL STUDIED and WELL KNOWN historical figure?



next QUESTION "can oyu do great in your life, AND THEN LATER COME TO EMBRACE THE SLAUGHTER OF SIX MILLION PEOPLE, AND BELIEVE OTHERS ARE TO STILL THINK OF YOU AS HAVING DONE SOME GOOD? "


my ANSWER, americans do it every day,,,,are we aware of the numbers who died in the slave trade? or is it a matter of which happens first,,whether we aknowledge the good AND the bad?

america is partially great because of the labor of slaves and the death of others, and yet we are still considered a GREAT nation,,correct?



next QUESTION "CAN GENOCIDE EXIST IN SOMETHING, WITH GOOD BESIDE IT AS WELL? "

my ANSWER...I think emotions are getting the best of this conversation at this point, because the reference to good is irrelevant as Farrakhan never made the claim that Hitler was 'good'



next STATEMENT "but then these that say and claim to be ministers of "GOD", certainly believe no such thing, that ALL ARE EQUAL, for the could never deem the "lambs" need a leader as themself, lol...
"


my ANSWER...this is obviously one interpretation of what 'equal' means in the context of the bible

I am equal to other humans in my spiritual value, I am not equal in my education, my health, my experiences

teachers and leaders are needed , not because they are better spirits, but because they have a purpose to uplift others and the knowledge to do it with

ministers have a purpose too, mothers have a purpose, fathers have a purpose, it all fits together making noone better or worse just BECAUSE everyone has different purposes or strengths,,,


next DIATRIBE "FOLLOW THE FLAPPYKAHN.

for he walks straight toward his own cliff.

and each one of his followers the same.

they all consider themself MORE KNOWING OF GOD, AND MANY OTHERS AS HEATHENS.

HAH...

these indeed do NEED A BRAVE LEADER, A MINISTER OF GOD, TO GUIDE THEM, in their self induced stupidity, that came the day they thought of themself as HAVING SPECIAL STATUS WITH SOME CREATOR, LOL...

some exclusive truth of GOD...

only a bunch of idiots would follow flappykahn"



laugh laugh laugh my ANSWER...this is so much emotional outburst and stereotyping, that I dont really have an answer except PHYSICIAN HEAL THYSELF...laugh laugh


last STATEMENT "i have no problem deeming MY LOGIC SUPERIOR, if another FIRST INSISTS THEIRS IS SUPERIOR, in all manner of defense and rebuttal...

oh yea... "


my ANSWER, I guess since the latter did not occur, the former is unnecessary and just a journey in egotism



,,with love,,,,,


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Sun 12/19/10 08:55 AM
lol...

in a case where we have one that believes itelf correct and smart, and another whom knows what true caring is,so can see how does NOT CARE, but rather poses themself as a carer of other's, as flappykahn does, then there is a impass.

a place in time, until the true egotistical fall, spirling downward from an empire built but for the sake of self prosperity alone as the primary motive.

see, your making thhis about YOU AND ME...

it's not.

it's about what is of the common good for all mankind as equal.

flappykahn in no way see's ALL other humans as equal, so has no insight as to WHAT AND WHO STEALS EQUALITY FROM MANKIND.

damn straight, i am the most egotistical, brash, arrogant, condeming, ******* in the world when it comes to what i know is not true caring about other's, WHEN IT IS BEING POSED AS SO.

in other words, when it comes to false self serving hypocrites, like flappykan...

see, i see no crime, nor shame, nor guilt, in being an *******, a fuccking fuccker ******* to make an assshole that but seeks to promote racism and malice as love like a snake in the grass, but to play on peoples emotions to get what itself wants, and to make itself great.

so, carry on misss harmony, believing who makes YOU FEEL GOOD, simply because you are of the same birds of a feather...

but make no mistake, the future for flappkahn is not well...

as in just a few days time, it will be brought to light by people he has fuccked, and fuccked over, his extreme egotism based upon himself as superior, so much so his abuses of personal family and friends coming to light, and his empire built for himself shall crumble, right in front of the entire world...

but of course, there are those that even then, will still demand he be forgiven, and of course, we are all just human, and no one is perfect...

but indeed, in another place, where there is true honor, based upon true caring, that which has but cared for itself most, IS NEVER FORGIVEN, UNTIL THEY HAVE LEARNED THEY ARE BUT THE SERVANT, and other's are the kings and queens...

and in another place, until one such as flappykahn lowers himself to nothingness, not good enough to even hold the hand of helpless child, he is a snake in the grass, and will remain so.

he is a sick demented mentally ill narcissistic creep, and such the entire world will find to be so.

his crimes are so large, and such a breech of caring about mankind, it shall be hard to make yourself understand how you were so blind to his false motives.

so, you believe it is all about perception.

this perception of flappykan will NEVER FAIL, to not become proven as true.

your perception of him shall be proven in the face of MILLIONS, to be as totally a mis perception, to put i kindly and lovingly.










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Sun 12/19/10 12:48 PM

lol...

in a case where we have one that believes itelf correct and smart, and another whom knows what true caring is,so can see how does NOT CARE, but rather poses themself as a carer of other's, as flappykahn does, then there is a impass.

a place in time, until the true egotistical fall, spirling downward from an empire built but for the sake of self prosperity alone as the primary motive.

see, your making thhis about YOU AND ME...

it's not.

it's about what is of the common good for all mankind as equal.

flappykahn in no way see's ALL other humans as equal, so has no insight as to WHAT AND WHO STEALS EQUALITY FROM MANKIND.

damn straight, i am the most egotistical, brash, arrogant, condeming, ******* in the world when it comes to what i know is not true caring about other's, WHEN IT IS BEING POSED AS SO.

in other words, when it comes to false self serving hypocrites, like flappykan...

see, i see no crime, nor shame, nor guilt, in being an *******, a fuccking fuccker ******* to make an assshole that but seeks to promote racism and malice as love like a snake in the grass, but to play on peoples emotions to get what itself wants, and to make itself great.

so, carry on misss harmony, believing who makes YOU FEEL GOOD, simply because you are of the same birds of a feather...

but make no mistake, the future for flappkahn is not well...

as in just a few days time, it will be brought to light by people he has fuccked, and fuccked over, his extreme egotism based upon himself as superior, so much so his abuses of personal family and friends coming to light, and his empire built for himself shall crumble, right in front of the entire world...

but of course, there are those that even then, will still demand he be forgiven, and of course, we are all just human, and no one is perfect...

but indeed, in another place, where there is true honor, based upon true caring, that which has but cared for itself most, IS NEVER FORGIVEN, UNTIL THEY HAVE LEARNED THEY ARE BUT THE SERVANT, and other's are the kings and queens...

and in another place, until one such as flappykahn lowers himself to nothingness, not good enough to even hold the hand of helpless child, he is a snake in the grass, and will remain so.

he is a sick demented mentally ill narcissistic creep, and such the entire world will find to be so.

his crimes are so large, and such a breech of caring about mankind, it shall be hard to make yourself understand how you were so blind to his false motives.

so, you believe it is all about perception.

this perception of flappykan will NEVER FAIL, to not become proven as true.

your perception of him shall be proven in the face of MILLIONS, to be as totally a mis perception, to put i kindly and lovingly.











what ONE believes is this, as ONE posted before,,

I admire his intelligence ,,,,,,but I believe him just a man as fallible as any other

I believe that when you quote MY post and then write this

"
you said you DO NOT EVER USE YOURSELF AS THE BAR.

but, you say it does not ENCITE HATE IN "YOU"...

that is USING YOURSELF, and whether YOU find words appealing, AS THE BAR OF THE TOTAL CAPABILITY OF WORDS...

an EXTREMELY BIASED WAY TO EVALUATE ANYTHING...

NOT ACCURATE TO ACCESS THE POWER OF WORDS "UNTO ALL".

so what if YOU DON'T HEAR HATE IN IT.

OTHERS DO. "


and then go on to even include my screename in your responses, that it intellectually dishonest to come back with some condescending attitude of enlightenment by accusing me of being the one making it about 'you and me'

its not easy to keep up the 'ones' and 'itselfs' when your subconscious knows EXACTLY who you are referring to,,,

, it seems one who speaks so often of ego does so from its own vast experience with it


indeed, even millions agreeing with oneself means millions others dont, yet the ego sees that as 'proof' of being correct,,,

I respect that you see Mr Farrakhan as hateful, and I see him as hateful as any man including yourself,,,,you just hate for what you perceive his intentions to be, and his 'hatred' also stems from what he has perceived AND personally experienced from others

so continue to be the judge and jury and insist he beome nothing while you sit on a perch of 'true caring' and I will continue to see things in all Gods creation worth chrrishing and learning from



you are correct,

'in a case where we have one that believes itelf correct and smart, and another whom knows what true caring is,so can see how does NOT CARE, but rather poses themself as a carer of other's, as flappykahn does, then there is a impass.'


I just wonder which 'one' you believe yourself to be,,,


the Reverend feels just as justified in his feelings as you do in yours, but I do hope you will never feel as if you arent good enough to hold a childs hands


I personally read serious hypocrisy throughout, but I admire your passion for what you believe, and with love , I hope for you to be able to see your own flaws and ego as quickly as you condemn others for theirs,,,,

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Sun 12/19/10 07:04 PM
if we told the reverened he was egotistical, and an assshole, would he accept such as true?

do you hear me denying any negative assertion said about me?

if fact, quite the contraire...

lol...

hate?

why, u just assume there is hate, or hate emotion, when with each word i write, there is but calm knowing indeed the facts are impossible to be not true.

why is it then you return time and again to engage in a convwersation that you must not hate too much, lol...

well,i believe just as you said, that such things are of love, and that is all i feel when i type them...

and you deem me to be hate filled?

lol...

why is not flappykahn as well deemed as hate filled or enciting hate?

because you concur with him, and i do not?

lol...

of course.

my words spoken of him, shall come to pass, and then you will see and know anything you thought was hate from me, was indeed hate of what his rhetoric creates in the feeble mentality of followers, which harms his followers to become even more feeble...

for can one claim to free slaves, or the downtrodden, or abused, which were slaves first by having a slave mentality, by making the freed slaves one's own personal slaves, or by making them think they need oneself?

the only freedom from a slave mentality is self empowerment, which is to see SELF as the culprit, NOT OUTSIDE SOURCE.

for to look at outside factors as the cause of any self less than good, but blinds the intellect to why itself was igorant or unknowing enough to allow itself to be enslaved to begin with.

if anything points to something on the outside as the culprit, self empowerment is DSECREASED IN ALL WAYS.

the human intellect of every human has the potential to far exceed that of flappykahn, and he blindly does not see that, if he tells them that outside source is the cause of self situation.

but, anyhow, such things are meaningless, you are right, and i concede i am in no position to prove such...

for to prove something,one must have an UNMOVABLE BAR, OR MEASURE.

since the human intellect, the brain itself, CAN JUST MOVE THE BAR, TO WHEREVER IT WISHES, then there is only TIME, reality unvieled, to help us all to see, what was most true.

so, into the hands of time these words are committed, but again, make no mistake to recall these words, when the grand news of his indiscrepencies of LARGE MAGNITUDE are revealed in plain site.

and i can assure you, not one itota of this prediction shall fail in coming to pass.

and here i thought you were actually enjoying all this discourse...

for you have stimulated my brain to more, and digger deeper depths, and for that i admire and respect you...

if you think my words are condescending to you, then i hope you know that is not the feelings that i have in my body as i write such words...

for it is but a matter of reality to me, and all that occurs is part of love, good and bad words alike, again, just as you so phrased it yourself.

and i CONCUR.

peace out.

go ahead.

i shall give oyu the last word, since i know that is what you want,lol...

one accurate cent.

from one egotistical arrogant bastard, lol...

for to embrace the negative qualities of self, as real and true, is the only freedom of mind that exist.

and so, here you have my embracing aloud.

you shall see i indeed fight for the correct things.

then, we shall be fast friends.

and admirers i dare say.

for your intellect i know is far sharper than the average.

so, make no mistake, i do not underestimate you.

i only say, to overestimate oneself, UNLESS ONESELF IS WILLING TO DECLARE NO POSSIBLE FALLICY, is the largest pitfall of human nature.

so indeed, it is not without keep awareness of the total possibles that each of these words is written.

end of ignorant rant.

lol...

peace out.

for sure this time.

lol.








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