I have always found that mercy bears richer fruits than strict justice. Abraham Lincoln



(I wasn't sure where to put this so sorry if it is in the wrong place.)

He's wrong.

"String him up. It will teach him a lesson."



"The beatings will continue until morale improves!"

I heard this quote on criminal minds tonight,,lol

so true,,,

Run your justice system that way, and see what happens. Tell ya what, next guy that beats and robs you, we'll apply that logic to.

Too bad he didn't live the quote......

Exactly, the North's march through the South was a terror campaign.

We did what we had to do. We won, it's over.

a strictly merciful justice system only works within a strictly merciful social system


in lieu of that, justice tempered with mercy is the most fruitful approach

Is it really over?? Has it ever really been over?? When Yankees come into the south r they welcomed with open arms and visa versa?......And no it wasn't about slavery....because the South definitely doesn't give a rats as s about the slavery thing......really raping and murdering women and children is what the North had to do? Why don't you retry your answer on that one.......

considering the times, and being honest about war

raping women and children was prevalent in the south already, and most likely the north was not immune

as far as history is concerned, confederates declared the war by firing on federal territory,, cant cry later because they lost,,,

That wasn't the point...the point was that what they did was not necessary......he said it was necessary.....and the the Yankees and the Rebels still have conflict with each other today....it wasn't about who won or lost it wasn't about who started it or lost it it was pure unadluterated honesty......that the South still proclaims damned Yankees....and the North still isn't so hot about those damned Rebels......point being it never really ended and went forth through prejudices........politely but out MsHarmony.....love ya though and your opinion...this ones between me and that boy......and if Lincoln hadn't received the financing he did when he did things just might be alittle different......and no I do not wish slavery upon anyone in any shape or form....not my meaning and not to be misconstrued

and yes, it was indeed about slavery,,, now way around that

from the south carolina declaration of secession

The Constitution of the United States, in its fourth Article, provides as follows:


"No person held to service or labor in one State, under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up, on claim of the party to whom such service or labor may be due."
This stipulation was so material to the compact, that without it that compact would not have been made. The greater number of the contracting parties held slaves, and they had previously evinced their estimate of the value of such a stipulation by making it a condition in the Ordinance for the government of the territory ceded by Virginia, which now composes the States north of the Ohio River.


The same article of the Constitution stipulates also for rendition by the several States of fugitives from justice from the other States.
The General Government, as the common agent, passed laws to carry into effect these stipulations of the States. For many years these laws were executed. But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations

Not when war was declared the only reason our extremely predjudiced President Lincoln who did not give a crap what the slaves endured made it about slavery in yheend was because the North was about to lose the war........the people that wanted slavery ended had enough funds to finance the war.....for Lincoln it was about putting the South in their place because they dared rise up againt him and the United Staes and dared to succeed.......

Abe Lincoln was a war monger!

Wow this thread took an unforeseen turn

People want strict justice until they are caught up in a situation that they feel wasn't their fault and then they want mercy.

justice and mercy are not mutually exclusive!

realizing lincoln didnt give a crap about slaves, the MAJOR issue of contention was between SLAVE HOLDING and NON SLAVEHOLDING states, making it difficult to seperate the issue of slavery from the civil war

and when has our government EVER NOT retaliated against its 'enemies' when attacked,,,,it was war as usual, it happened because it could, but it eminated from the extremely fragile and tense policy differences regarding SLAVERY between the slave and non slave holding states

Balance is key.

truest statement ever made,,