Topic: Amazon Refuses To Stop Selling Pedophile Guide
static28's photo
Thu 11/11/10 12:07 PM
im pretty sure it isn't illegal to write a book telling you how to do things that are illegal. they have books at borders about how to grow pot even. i think the protests were the best thing that could be done. people are going to still buy the book if they want it, but at least its not being seen by people who use amazon anymore. freedom of speech is a weird right, and i dont think it was put in the bill of rights so people could write such horrible things such as that, but what can you do? i'd be fine with executing all the pedophiles and rapists out there. they certainly shouldnt be let out of prison. some of them may not have killed their victims, but they did scar them for life. no child or person should ever have to go through something like that. if you can't control yourself around children, the best thing you can do is shoot yourself in the head. the world does not need these people

Dragoness's photo
Thu 11/11/10 12:10 PM

Being a molestation victim I disagree with the above opinion.

Death does not equal justice.

I do not wish harm on these sick individuals but I do hope that we stop them from doing it again once caught.

Lpdon's photo
Thu 11/11/10 12:16 PM


Being a molestation victim I disagree with the above opinion.

Death does not equal justice.

I do not wish harm on these sick individuals but I do hope that we stop them from doing it again once caught.


Being one my self and the father of one death would ease the pain. Trust me.

Lpdon's photo
Thu 11/11/10 12:17 PM

im pretty sure it isn't illegal to write a book telling you how to do things that are illegal. they have books at borders about how to grow pot even. i think the protests were the best thing that could be done. people are going to still buy the book if they want it, but at least its not being seen by people who use amazon anymore. freedom of speech is a weird right, and i dont think it was put in the bill of rights so people could write such horrible things such as that, but what can you do? i'd be fine with executing all the pedophiles and rapists out there. they certainly shouldnt be let out of prison. some of them may not have killed their victims, but they did scar them for life. no child or person should ever have to go through something like that. if you can't control yourself around children, the best thing you can do is shoot yourself in the head. the world does not need these people


I agree it should be considered a capitol offense and the FBI should be activly investigating groups like NAMBLA.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 11/11/10 12:20 PM



Being a molestation victim I disagree with the above opinion.

Death does not equal justice.

I do not wish harm on these sick individuals but I do hope that we stop them from doing it again once caught.


Being one my self and the father of one death would ease the pain. Trust me.


No it won't, you can bet on it.

Revenge is never an answer.

Revenge disguised as justice is never an answer either.

Regardless to their sickness they are humans too and deserve some human regard.

I do not wish harm on those who molested me but I do hope that noone else suffers the same that I did.

davidben1's photo
Thu 11/11/10 02:28 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Thu 11/11/10 02:49 PM
so, FREE SPEECH, of those that CARE, changed the CHOICE of those that DID NOT CARE ENOUGH TO NOT SELL IT...

just the way FREE SPEECH was designed to work.

they could have just decided not to offer it in the beginning, which they would not of, if they cared about "raped and molested and sodomized kids"...

will they as well sell books on how to stalk other human's as prey, how to properly eat another humans flesh, how to induce the most amount of physical pain unto another human being...

if so, then only the voice of magnanamous FREE SPEECH of the masses itself could change that as well.

does not amazon turn down the distribution of many books?

so why did they FIRST offer this one?

such indeed tells much about the personal indiviuals at amazon making the "deciding choice" to sell it.

glad i know know what and who they are, so they can effectively be given FREE SPEECH AND APPROPRIATE ACTION in return.

metalwing's photo
Thu 11/11/10 02:33 PM
And the reason you can write and sell a book about almost anything is called "Freedom of the Press".

Lpdon's photo
Thu 11/11/10 02:53 PM

And the reason you can write and sell a book about almost anything is called "Freedom of the Press".


We will find out. I callled and left a message for a Field Agent at our local FBI office)apparently they all have the day off for veterans day).

I think this crosses the line.

venusenvy's photo
Thu 11/11/10 02:54 PM
Wait a min...Im confused, if its illegal to have child porn on your computer, wouldnt this fall under the same laws?? ohwell

no photo
Thu 11/11/10 02:59 PM
so you might find this interesting..Amazon will not sell videos or software to any Latin American country because of pirating problems...they are all into protecting the rights of corporations...

I guess protecting the rights of individuals isnt something Amazon really bothers with..since there isnt a whole lot of money involved..

FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 11/11/10 03:39 PM
Speaking of...anyone ever read 'Hit Man: A Technical Manual for Independent Contractors?' Good book, but it was banned for awhile too.

Kind of reminds me of a nazi army going around burning books...

Seakolony's photo
Thu 11/11/10 03:52 PM



Being a molestation victim I disagree with the above opinion.

Death does not equal justice.

I do not wish harm on these sick individuals but I do hope that we stop them from doing it again once caught.


Being one my self and the father of one death would ease the pain. Trust me.

I too am a victim of molestation and a book doesn't designate whether you will be victimized or not.....nor does it create a molester...a person would already have to be a molester at heart...and the only thing that eases pain is forgiveness, success, and love.....at least for me it was....and am not saying associate or visit the offender but within thine own heart..............

Chazster's photo
Thu 11/11/10 06:28 PM




Being a molestation victim I disagree with the above opinion.

Death does not equal justice.

I do not wish harm on these sick individuals but I do hope that we stop them from doing it again once caught.


Being one my self and the father of one death would ease the pain. Trust me.


No it won't, you can bet on it.

Revenge is never an answer.

Revenge disguised as justice is never an answer either.

Regardless to their sickness they are humans too and deserve some human regard.

I do not wish harm on those who molested me but I do hope that noone else suffers the same that I did.


If revenge is never the answer then why do we say "revenge is a dish best served cold?"
There is a time and a place for revenge. Especially in a practical joke war.

Chazster's photo
Thu 11/11/10 06:34 PM




Being a molestation victim I disagree with the above opinion.

Death does not equal justice.

I do not wish harm on these sick individuals but I do hope that we stop them from doing it again once caught.


Being one my self and the father of one death would ease the pain. Trust me.

I too am a victim of molestation and a book doesn't designate whether you will be victimized or not.....nor does it create a molester...a person would already have to be a molester at heart...and the only thing that eases pain is forgiveness, success, and love.....at least for me it was....and am not saying associate or visit the offender but within thine own heart..............


I agree, people should read the article again. It says the book is for people who already do this kind of thing. It tries to set rules so that kids don't get harmed. I am assuming he means that physically not emotionally but still.

That being said, age of consent changes from country to country so possibly in some countries this might not be so illegal.

Also it was not such an uncommon thing in the past. People getting married at at 13 or so. Edgar Allen Poe married his 13yr old cousin and that was only like 150 years ago.

tngxl65's photo
Thu 11/11/10 06:34 PM
I believe they have the right to sell it. And I have the right to not shop at amazon. Which just made my Christmas shopping more difficult.

Amazon should have the good sense not to sell some things.

FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 11/11/10 07:27 PM

I believe they have the right to sell it. And I have the right to not shop at amazon. Which just made my Christmas shopping more difficult.

Amazon should have the good sense not to sell some things.


Really?

Just a bit ridiculous don't you think? This is why I hate the 'boycott [store name here] because they sell [random product here].' It would make sense if the random store did something to someone personally but they are merely carriers of a product line that people buy, boycott Wal-Mart or something, you know? A store that actually degrades business practice?

Chazster's photo
Thu 11/11/10 08:07 PM

I believe they have the right to sell it. And I have the right to not shop at amazon. Which just made my Christmas shopping more difficult.

Amazon should have the good sense not to sell some things.


Don't act like Amazon made your Christmas shopping more difficult. They are not making you not shop there. Not to mention they already removed the book. Cry me a river.

no photo
Thu 11/11/10 08:26 PM

Freedom of speech and press is only good until it tramples on the rights of others. A manuel on how to hhurt a child and get away with it or how to make a bazooka or bomb for a terrorist act? That tramples on the rights of others.


I respectfully disagree. The rights of others are violated by the acts which violated those rights, not by the books that are read prior to those
acts.

no photo
Thu 11/11/10 08:33 PM

That being said, age of consent changes from country to country so possibly in some countries this might not be so illegal.

Also it was not such an uncommon thing in the past. People getting married at at 13 or so. Edgar Allen Poe married his 13yr old cousin and that was only like 150 years ago.


A definition for pedophilia was given in another thread, which specified prepubescent children. (This is totally different from how I've heard the word used in everyday speech - which is as a synonym for statutory rape.)


You are correct that the age of consent varies with culture, and includes ages down to 'after puberty begins', but I'm not aware of any culture which endorses sex with the prepubescent.

Lpdon's photo
Thu 11/11/10 08:40 PM
Ekletic and I need to pay the writer of those book a little visit.