Topic: Is masturbation a "sin"?
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Sat 11/06/10 11:59 AM
Edited by Peter_Pan69 on Sat 11/06/10 12:00 PM

Nowhere does the Bible mention masturbation. So, the Bible can't be used to support the claim that masturbation is a sin.

However, it is not unusual for people to read into the Bible something that is not there. One does not have to be Jewish in order to be a Pharisee.



Onan, in Genesis, "spilled his seed on the ground" or something to that effect. It doesn't specifically mention masturbation, but that's the closest to it that I can think of. I will not say that it wasn't masturbation nor that it was. I think his sin was not giving his brother's wife a child, not spilling his seed.

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Sat 11/06/10 12:03 PM
I dont think that is clearly explained in biblical terms, I err on the side of safety and abstain from it though,,,,

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Sat 11/06/10 12:04 PM
"Is masterbation a sin?" Yes and no. If you do it and you have a partner; yes - if it takes you away from the love you would have with your partner, do it to porn, or fantize of another. If you are single and have lust in your mind for someone else, or looking at porn - yes.
"think the bigger 'sin' would be to shame someone and make them feel bad about them self..and that can be done just by telling one they are 'sinning'. ". Agreed - find out about your body and what turns you on -'finding you way'.

Ron

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Sat 11/06/10 12:05 PM
If masturbation is a sin, then when kind of cruel god would make "man's best friend" tease and tempt us by being able to lick themselves?

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Sat 11/06/10 12:08 PM


Nowhere does the Bible mention masturbation. So, the Bible can't be used to support the claim that masturbation is a sin.

However, it is not unusual for people to read into the Bible something that is not there. One does not have to be Jewish in order to be a Pharisee.



Onan, in Genesis, "spilled his seed on the ground" or something to that effect. It doesn't specifically mention masturbation, but that's the closest to it that I can think of. I will not say that it wasn't masturbation nor that it was. I think his sin was not giving his brother's wife a child, not spilling his seed.


That's an interesting observation. The authors of the Bible apparently thought that men carried the "seed" and women were merely the incubator of the seed. In fact people believed in the homunculus all the way up until Gregor Mendel discovered genetics. Even Gregor Mendel was scoffed at for thinking that the woman contributed to the "seed".

Of course, today we know that Mendel was indeed correct and that both the man and the woman contribute to the "seed" of a new human.

So in this sense the authors of the Bible had it all wrong. I personally feel that this too should be sufficient evidence that these ancient superstitions cannot be the word of the creator of mankind since the creator would have known better.


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Sat 11/06/10 12:18 PM
not quite

And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel (Genesis 3:15).

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Sat 11/06/10 12:24 PM

not quite

And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel (Genesis 3:15).



Does that mean that god will kick us in the head? Or is there some kind of weird threesome going on?

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Sat 11/06/10 12:33 PM
no i think it's a wonderful thing:banana: :banana:smitten

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Sat 11/06/10 12:34 PM


Nowhere does the Bible mention masturbation. So, the Bible can't be used to support the claim that masturbation is a sin.

However, it is not unusual for people to read into the Bible something that is not there. One does not have to be Jewish in order to be a Pharisee.



Onan, in Genesis, "spilled his seed on the ground" or something to that effect. It doesn't specifically mention masturbation, but that's the closest to it that I can think of. I will not say that it wasn't masturbation nor that it was. I think his sin was not giving his brother's wife a child, not spilling his seed.


Onan's sin was that he practiced birth control when he was supposed to impregnate his sister-in-law. His "seed" spilled on the ground because he pulled out of her before he ejaculated. That Bible passage pertaining to Onan describes sexual intercourse, not masturbation.

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Sat 11/06/10 12:52 PM
Edited by Peter_Pan69 on Sat 11/06/10 12:53 PM



Nowhere does the Bible mention masturbation. So, the Bible can't be used to support the claim that masturbation is a sin.

However, it is not unusual for people to read into the Bible something that is not there. One does not have to be Jewish in order to be a Pharisee.



Onan, in Genesis, "spilled his seed on the ground" or something to that effect. It doesn't specifically mention masturbation, but that's the closest to it that I can think of. I will not say that it wasn't masturbation nor that it was. I think his sin was not giving his brother's wife a child, not spilling his seed.


Onan's sin was that he practiced birth control when he was supposed to impregnate his sister-in-law. His "seed" spilled on the ground because he pulled out of her before he ejaculated. That Bible passage pertaining to Onan describes sexual intercourse, not masturbation.


Like I said, I'm not saying it was or it wasn't. He didn't spill his seed on her stomache or back...

I don't know, I don't think that I could practice coitus interuptus (sp?) by turning around and ejaculating on the ground without some help.

But anyways, if one wants to classify masturbation as a sin, what would their take on nocturnal emmision be?

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Sat 11/06/10 01:08 PM
As I said earlier, Onan's sin was that he prevented himself from impregnating his sister-in-law when the law of his society said that he was supposed impregnate her on behalf of his dead brother, the woman's husband. How he prevented the impregnation doesn't matter.

Plenty of people think that masturbation is a sin just because they heard someone else make such a claim and then assumed that the Bible supports such a claim. Yet the Bible makes no mention of masturbation.

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Sat 11/06/10 01:47 PM

As I said earlier, Onan's sin was that he prevented himself from impregnating his sister-in-law when the law of his society said that he was supposed impregnate her on behalf of his dead brother, the woman's husband. How he prevented the impregnation doesn't matter.

Plenty of people think that masturbation is a sin just because they heard someone else make such a claim and then assumed that the Bible supports such a claim. Yet the Bible makes no mention of masturbation.



I know what Onan's sin was, the question is, how did he accomplish that sin?

Jess642's photo
Sat 11/06/10 02:05 PM
I really hope it is!......I really really hope it is!!!!



because then masturbating would also fulfill my exhibitionist fetishes.....someone's god would be watching!

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Sat 11/06/10 02:23 PM
Edited by Peter_Pan69 on Sat 11/06/10 02:26 PM

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Sat 11/06/10 02:40 PM

I really hope it is!......I really really hope it is!!!!



because then masturbating would also fulfill my exhibitionist fetishes.....someone's god would be watching!


laugh

My Goddess is female, not only does She condone my sexual ecstasy when masturbating, but She even provides me with lucid visions of the most erotic psychic nymphs to excite me and share my divine bliss with.

She no fool. She's fully aware that She is the creator of bliss and She totally appreciates my appreciation of Her creation via erotically divine masturbation. I've come to realize that tantra sex does not require any partner other than the Goddess Herself. What better way to worship a Goddess than to make psychic love with Her? love

Yes, the Goddess fully appreciates my love for Her as much as I appreciate Her love for me.

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Sat 11/06/10 06:22 PM

[I know what Onan's sin was, the question is, how did he accomplish that sin?


To the writer of the Onan story, the "how" was not important. It was the "why" and the result that mattered. Focusing on one tiny detail of one scene of one chapter of a much larger story causes on to miss the forest for the trees, and it also causes one to read into the story something that isn't there.

Anyway, nowhere does the Bible describe masturbation as being a sin.

Dragoness's photo
Sat 11/06/10 06:47 PM
I would say no it isn't a sin at all.

RKISIT's photo
Sat 11/06/10 07:02 PM
what about if your masturbating and thinking about the virgin mary at the sametime is that a sin?blushing

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Sat 11/06/10 07:13 PM




i chuckled laugh

Johnyjuan's photo
Sat 11/06/10 07:43 PM
It is if your mom catches you ....lol =)