Topic: What's your idea of justice?
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Wed 11/03/10 11:30 PM


I think pedophiles should be used as guinea-pigs for chemotherapy drug trials.


Any kind of drug trials actually....need to find out what will happen if someone injects too much of one drug, fine shoot them up and see....need to see what damage is done from swallowing too many pills, I'll give them the funnel to shove them down their throats....Hurt multiple children? CyPoet, can you lend them that gun a second?


mad mad mad mad


maybe not viagra

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 11/04/10 08:42 PM

Smith and Wesson, Colt, Remington, Winchester, take your pick.


Can't. Someone beat me to it.


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Thu 11/04/10 08:47 PM

what ever you do to a criminal, it wont make the crime disappear, it wont take away the pain of the victim...in such circumstances what you are talking about is not "justice" but rather revenge...

justified revenged...eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth..I suppose it will have to do within our current societies.

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Sat 11/06/10 08:53 PM


what ever you do to a criminal, it wont make the crime disappear, it wont take away the pain of the victim...in such circumstances what you are talking about is not "justice" but rather revenge...

justified revenged...eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth..I suppose it will have to do within our current societies.


IDK that an exact justice exists for some types of crime a child can't be given back their innocence, a woman - her ability to trust

to have serve the full sentence would be a start on justice - making sure the victim never again wants for anything - at the expense of the perp- there's an idea!

ron62449's photo
Sun 11/07/10 02:19 PM

I think every pedophile should be castrated. Period.


Any sex crime, not just pedrophiles. Men casterated by being hung by their 'weapons' until they come off. Women - patch them up with tree patch cement.

Ron

ron62449's photo
Sun 11/07/10 02:41 PM


IDK that an exact justice exists for some types of crime a child can't be given back their innocence, a woman - her ability to trust

to have serve the full sentence would be a start on justice - making sure the victim never again wants for anything - at the expense of the perp- there's an idea!


Murder of innocence, trust, their self image and confidence, etc. Is there any kind of a punishment bad enough. Let them stand naked at the town square (Portland it's Pioneer Square)Put their 'weapon in a gallows and have people take target practice at them. Then after a time a blade will come down for a public castration. Or throw gas on their weapon with a flame getting closer and closer until.....

Ron

EquusDancer's photo
Sun 11/07/10 03:36 PM

I think pedophiles should be used as guinea-pigs for chemotherapy drug trials.


How about totally stopping animal testing and using them.

metalwing's photo
Sun 11/07/10 03:44 PM


what ever you do to a criminal, it wont make the crime disappear, it wont take away the pain of the victim...in such circumstances what you are talking about is not "justice" but rather revenge...

justified revenged...eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth..I suppose it will have to do within our current societies.


According to records, almost all pedophiles are repeat offenders. Putting a bullet in them saves the other children that have not crossed their paths yet.

It is why you remove cancer from your body... to protect the future.

oldsage's photo
Sun 11/07/10 03:46 PM
Public hangings, done in a timely manner & make sure the junior grade crooks WATCH. It will make them think.

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Sun 11/07/10 04:07 PM



what ever you do to a criminal, it wont make the crime disappear, it wont take away the pain of the victim...in such circumstances what you are talking about is not "justice" but rather revenge...

justified revenged...eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth..I suppose it will have to do within our current societies.


According to records, almost all pedophiles are repeat offenders. Putting a bullet in them saves the other children that have not crossed their paths yet.

It is why you remove cancer from your body... to protect the future.


no one is born pedophilic..all offenders were once themselves innocent victims...seems justice doesnt go with pity and mercy...

metalwing's photo
Sun 11/07/10 05:34 PM




what ever you do to a criminal, it wont make the crime disappear, it wont take away the pain of the victim...in such circumstances what you are talking about is not "justice" but rather revenge...

justified revenged...eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth..I suppose it will have to do within our current societies.


According to records, almost all pedophiles are repeat offenders. Putting a bullet in them saves the other children that have not crossed their paths yet.

It is why you remove cancer from your body... to protect the future.


no one is born pedophilic..all offenders were once themselves innocent victims...seems justice doesnt go with pity and mercy...


Not in this case.

Jess642's photo
Sun 11/07/10 05:37 PM
Edited by Jess642 on Sun 11/07/10 05:55 PM




what ever you do to a criminal, it wont make the crime disappear, it wont take away the pain of the victim...in such circumstances what you are talking about is not "justice" but rather revenge...

justified revenged...eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth..I suppose it will have to do within our current societies.


According to records, almost all pedophiles are repeat offenders. Putting a bullet in them saves the other children that have not crossed their paths yet.

It is why you remove cancer from your body... to protect the future.


no one is born pedophilic..all offenders were once themselves innocent victims...seems justice doesnt go with pity and mercy...



thankyou!

One sane and well thought out person!


Why is it so easy to run for the ropes, guns and other awful things....and then run around spouting love peace and christian brown rice....seems discretionary compassion, compartmentalised and doled out according to which warm and fuzzy emotion is invoked....is the base mentality of most.


nearly all pedophiles were abused and horrendously mistreated themselves...those minute handful who are truely sociopathic are the rarity not the norm.


a simple eradication plan is so ridiculous....like gaoling pot smokers and basic traffic offenders....treatment and education is the way to reduce the harm caused...

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Sun 11/07/10 05:50 PM
Setting aside the bloodthirsty self righteousness in this thread, I'm curious....

... does castration work for pedophiles?


Jess642's photo
Sun 11/07/10 05:55 PM
Edited by Jess642 on Sun 11/07/10 05:55 PM

Setting aside the bloodthirsty self righteousness in this thread, I'm curious....

... does castration work for pedophiles?




No.....because the psychological impulse is not arousal of a child's body....the arousal is from the power and control over another....and targets children...the end result is the sexual act....the motivator is the manipulation and power attributed to developing and grooming a victim.


we find it hard to reconcile as we are sexually aroused by whatever is our predilection...male, female, pornography etc...it's a direct sexual link....

with pedophilia it is not the sexual that is the primary motivator.

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Sun 11/07/10 06:33 PM


Setting aside the bloodthirsty self righteousness in this thread, I'm curious....

... does castration work for pedophiles?




No.....because the psychological impulse is not arousal of a child's body....the arousal is from the power and control over another....and targets children...the end result is the sexual act....the motivator is the manipulation and power attributed to developing and grooming a victim.


we find it hard to reconcile as we are sexually aroused by whatever is our predilection...male, female, pornography etc...it's a direct sexual link....

with pedophilia it is not the sexual that is the primary motivator.


Do we know empirically that it doesn't work? I mean, you have given an explanation for the mechanisms of pedophilia which explains why you would expect it to not work... but do we have any carefully studied test cases that inform us of how well it works (or not), and for whom?

Even if all pedophiles have exactly the motivations you describe, it still seems possible to me that removing hormone producing glands could alter that persons motivation - not just on the sex=pleasure end, but also on the control=pleasure end.

willing2's photo
Sun 11/07/10 06:38 PM
I don't believe castration would work on women peds.
Just let victims parents rip the box out of the frame.

metalwing's photo
Sun 11/07/10 11:22 PM





what ever you do to a criminal, it wont make the crime disappear, it wont take away the pain of the victim...in such circumstances what you are talking about is not "justice" but rather revenge...

justified revenged...eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth..I suppose it will have to do within our current societies.


According to records, almost all pedophiles are repeat offenders. Putting a bullet in them saves the other children that have not crossed their paths yet.

It is why you remove cancer from your body... to protect the future.


no one is born pedophilic..all offenders were once themselves innocent victims...seems justice doesnt go with pity and mercy...



thankyou!

One sane and well thought out person!


Why is it so easy to run for the ropes, guns and other awful things....and then run around spouting love peace and christian brown rice....seems discretionary compassion, compartmentalised and doled out according to which warm and fuzzy emotion is invoked....is the base mentality of most.


nearly all pedophiles were abused and horrendously mistreated themselves...those minute handful who are truely sociopathic are the rarity not the norm.


a simple eradication plan is so ridiculous....like gaoling pot smokers and basic traffic offenders....treatment and education is the way to reduce the harm caused...


That may be all warm and fuzzy but it doesn't fit the facts that once turned loose, pedophiles tend to ruin more children's lives. This country has had a long history of gradually losing personal responsibility and coming up with a never ending list of excuses for why the most horrific crimes are OK.

Was Charles Manson mistreated as a child? Who cares?

The only sane thought that should come to play in this screwed up society that we have created is "What do we need to do to protect our children?"

What is ridiculous is comparing child molestation to traffic tickets and pot smoking. It should be compared to murder and rape.

Jtevans's photo
Sun 11/07/10 11:34 PM

Smith and Wesson, Colt, Remington, Winchester, take your pick.



agreed! drinker drinker drinker

WallyWest's photo
Mon 11/08/10 01:03 PM
Kantian Ethics for the win. Never treat anyone as a means to an ends, all human life is equal.

metalwing's photo
Mon 11/08/10 08:17 PM

Kantian Ethics for the win. Never treat anyone as a means to an ends, all human life is equal.


The Win? Surely you jest? Punish the criminal for the crime. Even Hitler was an innocent child once.

By the twisted logic expressed here the 9/11 terrorists should be forgiven because it was not their fault that they were twisted by older terrorists that changed their lives.