Topic: How NOT to be an a**hole
willing2's photo
Mon 11/01/10 08:59 PM
Some folks think I'm blunt and abrasive.

I will be blatantly honest unless there's a chance to get laid.

Then, I'll lie like a rug.smokin

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Mon 11/01/10 09:20 PM

winking

I know I can come across as curt and condescending...mostly because I know Im smart and dont hide it if the other person isnt at my same level..however, I dont rub someones nose in it or am purposely offensive because I happen to be with an inferior being...


yes, we Vulcans and Romulans must be patient with these humans

they interpret scientific data as rudeness - more Romulan ale pmarco?winking


indeed..and yes, thank you, Id enjoy another glass...
spock

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Mon 11/01/10 09:26 PM

^ I NEVER read this guy's stuff cuz yanno he's full of it

as for Fear, ya he's a prankster furshure
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I agree to some extent with you,like - unless I'm bustin' balls back & forth w/ someone cuz we're goofingaround, then I prefer to be tactful, that IS being myself for me

There's so much crap we put up with everyday - why pass along more?
be the flower Lex, the clean crisp air, the unique little snowflake

yanno - nice


ur gonna do whatcha wanna - it was just my opinionslaphead




indeed, i am very full, full enough to vomit, with all the women that are ugly as sin but convince themself they are hotties...

it's like a howard hughs unsanity fest, with all the self worhsipping wicked stepmother complex's run amock.

regurgetated regurgetation would be more appealing.





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Mon 11/01/10 10:03 PM

While keeping intelligence in mind, do you sacrifice the truth for the sake of people's feelings?

Blunt honesty seems to get people butt-hurt. I truly value honesty, but why is it some people cant?

I doubt you know, but if you do...

... Please, enlighten me.


People can be honest, yet not mean about it. If you have an issue with people getting upset with you for being honest, look at your approach. Perhaps it's the way you're being honest.

newarkjw's photo
Mon 11/01/10 10:26 PM
I'm just a f!cking smartazz. Deal with thy..........smokin

AndyBgood's photo
Mon 11/01/10 10:27 PM
Blunt honesty wrapped in a velvet glove until my patience gets tested then I get more blunt than the top of my head!

I personally don't like being told stuff in lengthy ways to spare my feelings. It usually makes me even more reactive than getting the truth up front!

davidben1's photo
Mon 11/01/10 10:40 PM
spare the feelings create monsters.

actionlynx's photo
Tue 11/02/10 12:16 AM
Honestly, I take people based on their merit. No matter how people treat me, I judge by what they do, not just what they say. In essence, I try to understand the PERSON.

That being said, I live in one of the most uptight States in the USofA. Working in a service industry, I have to deal with this crap every day. People will twist your words around on you to get you fired from your job if they don't like you. I don't mean to be negative, but I've lived in Connecticut all my life. I have seen a change in the type of people that live here.

I once had a friend who was raised in the South (I can't remember where, but along the Gulf), was career Navy and stationed in Connecticut. He told me after two years of knowing him, "CT is the worst State I've ever been as far as civil liberties go." Based on what I've seen, I believe him.

I always was someone that could be counted on for blunt truth. Just to survive, I had to adapt. Now at my age, I'm getting tired of it. I want to be myself, not what others want me to be. Someone needs to correct Political Correctness.

oops

Okay....now I'll go back into Clark Kent mode.

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Tue 11/02/10 01:24 AM


winking

I know I can come across as curt and condescending...mostly because I know Im smart and dont hide it if the other person isnt at my same level..however, I dont rub someones nose in it or am purposely offensive because I happen to be with an inferior being...


yes, we Vulcans and Romulans must be patient with these humans

they interpret scientific data as rudeness - more Romulan ale pmarco?winking


indeed..and yes, thank you, Id enjoy another glass...
spock

drinker

and @Lex, when I said I don't think it's necessary to "go out of the way" to be rude I was referring things like intentional baiting , inflammatory speech designed to instigate arguments - you've seen it on here I'm sure- fortunately not often. this site is pretty good as far as keeping that stuff off the threads

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Tue 11/02/10 01:28 AM
Edited by sweetestgirl11 on Tue 11/02/10 01:30 AM


^ I NEVER read this guy's stuff cuz yanno he's full of it

as for Fear, ya he's a prankster furshure
******************************************
I agree to some extent with you,like - unless I'm bustin' balls back & forth w/ someone cuz we're goofingaround, then I prefer to be tactful, that IS being myself for me

There's so much crap we put up with everyday - why pass along more?
be the flower Lex, the clean crisp air, the unique little snowflake

yanno - nice


ur gonna do whatcha wanna - it was just my opinionslaphead




indeed, i am very full, full enough to vomit, with all the women that are ugly as sin but convince themself they are hotties...

it's like a howard hughs unsanity fest, with all the self worhsipping wicked stepmother complex's run amock.

regurgetated regurgetation would be more appealing.





u can always leave so that I can attempt to become Howard Hughes wicked stepmother in peace?frustrated (jk - I just felt we needed a bit of light humor at ths point)

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Tue 11/02/10 01:33 AM

Tact often is just a rephrasing of one's message. Think of a spin doctor - those guys hired by politicians to make something bad look good and vice versa. It's not candy-coating. Tact has a myriad of forms, each depending on the people involved.

Real life example:

My friend and I were watching something, and he said, "Why couldn't I find a girl like that in high school?"

I responded, "Because she was looking for someone older....more experienced and more mature than a high school boy."

His response: "Wow....I never thought of that, and you said it without hurting my feelings."

Corny, but it really did happen verbatim.

Blunt honesty does have a use though. Sometimes being tactful isn't enough, even when multiple people have used it multiple times to convey the same message to a single person. Each one probably approached the problem from a different angle and perspective, but each had the same message. In these cases, sometimes a person needs the shock of bluntness just to get them to open their eyes and process all the words of advice they've heard. Blunt honestly is a last resort, but if used properly, it is an effective one. In fact, the person may even thank you for it. It might take weeks, months, or even years, but when it has the proper impact - when it makes a positive difference - people often will remember it with gratitude.


your post made me think too that, perception of rudeness can also be a matter of who you are with. I can be more up front with friends or clsoefamily members than people who I don't know very well. Even so my approach is generally to drive people like Andy over the edge by being nice :laughing:

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Tue 11/02/10 06:54 AM

and @Lex, when I said I don't think it's necessary to "go out of the way" to be rude I was referring things like intentional baiting , inflammatory speech designed to instigate arguments - you've seen it on here I'm sure- fortunately not often. this site is pretty good as far as keeping that stuff off the threads


Yeah, I have been on sites where the forums are nothing more than thinly-disguised war zones -- whatever the "topic" started out to be, it gets buried beneath pages and pages of people calling each other names for no reason.


OKCUTIE67's photo
Tue 11/02/10 07:16 AM

Some folks think I'm blunt and abrasive.

I will be blatantly honest unless there's a chance to get laid.

Then, I'll lie like a rug.smokin


Now that's honest!!! :laughing:

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Tue 11/02/10 11:02 AM
Edited by davidben1 on Tue 11/02/10 11:05 AM



^ I NEVER read this guy's stuff cuz yanno he's full of it

as for Fear, ya he's a prankster furshure
******************************************
I agree to some extent with you,like - unless I'm bustin' balls back & forth w/ someone cuz we're goofingaround, then I prefer to be tactful, that IS being myself for me

There's so much crap we put up with everyday - why pass along more?
be the flower Lex, the clean crisp air, the unique little snowflake

yanno - nice


ur gonna do whatcha wanna - it was just my opinionslaphead




indeed, i am very full, full enough to vomit, with all the women that are ugly as sin but convince themself they are hotties...

it's like a howard hughs unsanity fest, with all the self worhsipping wicked stepmother complex's run amock.

regurgetated regurgetation would be more appealing.





u can always leave so that I can attempt to become Howard Hughes wicked stepmother in peace?frustrated (jk - I just felt we needed a bit of light humor at ths point)


notice the "I"......just "felt"......."we".......needed a bit of light humor at this point...

and "I" precisely states the "self feeler's", are believed to be the GUIDE FOR ALL OTHER HUMANS....

and this mentality having been embraced by anything as good, comes to believe the "feelers" should actually control all other's, and IF they cannot be controlled to CONFORM, TO SELF FEELER'S, then the "they" are "enemy" of self grows, even wishing these leave, a public forum?

is that not what the "benefits of blunt speech" as listed, defined how blunt words exposes such wouldbe dictator's, and controllers of others?

hum...

and who is the "we" that you believe you speak for?

there is no "we" in public forums.

this is not a private home.

forums are set up in the same manner a free society is set up...

not using the "FEELINGS" OF SOME, to dictate the "words" of all.

and yes, and you are correct, these forums do a great job of making decision's that are EQUAL, not favoring with BIAS, for "some" whom wish all others to speak as themself.

yes, these forums embrace diversity as good, and diversity as what be the essence of freedom, not creating what many so long to have for themself, for self to rule as supreme, one OWN FEELINGS, dictating how all other's should speak.

boy, i bet you hated george carlin, lol...

and dane cook also...

lol...

leave, so one can control for it's own self supremacy in peace?

never!

that would be the same as leaving hitler alone, to prey upon the natural weaker side of the "feelings" in the people, for himself to gain power to control them, using most the natural inclination of people to want their "own feelings" protected, and for anything else to be destroyed.

that would oppose the very principles i live and speak and eat and do for, which be the total freedom of ALL IN THE WORLD, not perpetuating the belief that CREATE ALL HATE IN THE WORLD, that hating another is ok, if another does not conform to the SELF FEELER'S...

but, not all wish for freedom of all, just themself, and so these work but to coerce the bias out of people, to actually encite malice or contempt for the sole purpose of "protecting self feelings", as the guide of all speech"...

my speech be the opposite motive of that, and so of course, will and would be always hated by the control freaks, whom but demand falttery for themself, and death or ruin or prison or banishment to all that do not give it.

lol...

damn, this type mentality would make excellent nazi concentration camp den mothers, carring out the fuhrer's wishes of creating his OWN FEELINGS, for all as supreme.


and so, it does appear that it twas correctly stated in the "benefits of blunt and harsh speech", that such does indeed expose the wouldbe dictator's, whom would wish all freedom's erased, if it spared their own "feelers"...

and as well, nothing does this except that which matches all the qualities of the "wicked stepmother syndrome", who see other human's as the self validating mirror for self, beleiving that ALL are supposed to tell self how awesome it is, and if they don't...

no useful purpose for these mortals.

which create EXTREME FRUSTRATION in this mentality, which becomes as loathing, which becomes as hate...

omg...

hello...

the "control freaks", who believe their OWN FEELINGS, should decide the words allowable on planet earth, the dictators who believe their "feelings" are TO BE THE FORCED GUIDE OF AND FOR ALL?

the guide for all huh...

wow...

such mentality is what has created the present atmosphere of hate mongering in the world.

no wonder you say you cant bring yourself to read my stuff, because you would either have to hate me, or relax and admit self wishes to control all others, and then DECIDE TO LIVE AND LET LIVE, and give up the hate of what does not "FEEL" as you do, lol...

and then, happy could come for more than just one.

again, anything that thinks with this self as surpreme control all other feelings is free to hate me, lol...




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Tue 11/02/10 01:01 PM




^ I NEVER read this guy's stuff cuz yanno he's full of it

as for Fear, ya he's a prankster furshure
******************************************
I agree to some extent with you,like - unless I'm bustin' balls back & forth w/ someone cuz we're goofingaround, then I prefer to be tactful, that IS being myself for me

There's so much crap we put up with everyday - why pass along more?
be the flower Lex, the clean crisp air, the unique little snowflake

yanno - nice


ur gonna do whatcha wanna - it was just my opinionslaphead




indeed, i am very full, full enough to vomit, with all the women that are ugly as sin but convince themself they are hotties...

it's like a howard hughs unsanity fest, with all the self worhsipping wicked stepmother complex's run amock.

regurgetated regurgetation would be more appealing.





u can always leave so that I can attempt to become Howard Hughes wicked stepmother in peace?frustrated (jk - I just felt we needed a bit of light humor at ths point)


notice the "I"......just "felt"......."we".......needed a bit of light humor at this point...

and "I" precisely states the "self feeler's", are believed to be the GUIDE FOR ALL OTHER HUMANS....

and this mentality having been embraced by anything as good, comes to believe the "feelers" should actually control all other's, and IF they cannot be controlled to CONFORM, TO SELF FEELER'S, then the "they" are "enemy" of self grows, even wishing these leave, a public forum?

is that not what the "benefits of blunt speech" as listed, defined how blunt words exposes such wouldbe dictator's, and controllers of others?

hum...

and who is the "we" that you believe you speak for?

there is no "we" in public forums.

this is not a private home.

forums are set up in the same manner a free society is set up...

not using the "FEELINGS" OF SOME, to dictate the "words" of all.

and yes, and you are correct, these forums do a great job of making decision's that are EQUAL, not favoring with BIAS, for "some" whom wish all others to speak as themself.

yes, these forums embrace diversity as good, and diversity as what be the essence of freedom, not creating what many so long to have for themself, for self to rule as supreme, one OWN FEELINGS, dictating how all other's should speak.

boy, i bet you hated george carlin, lol...

and dane cook also...

lol...

leave, so one can control for it's own self supremacy in peace?

never!

that would be the same as leaving hitler alone, to prey upon the natural weaker side of the "feelings" in the people, for himself to gain power to control them, using most the natural inclination of people to want their "own feelings" protected, and for anything else to be destroyed.

that would oppose the very principles i live and speak and eat and do for, which be the total freedom of ALL IN THE WORLD, not perpetuating the belief that CREATE ALL HATE IN THE WORLD, that hating another is ok, if another does not conform to the SELF FEELER'S...

but, not all wish for freedom of all, just themself, and so these work but to coerce the bias out of people, to actually encite malice or contempt for the sole purpose of "protecting self feelings", as the guide of all speech"...

my speech be the opposite motive of that, and so of course, will and would be always hated by the control freaks, whom but demand falttery for themself, and death or ruin or prison or banishment to all that do not give it.

lol...

damn, this type mentality would make excellent nazi concentration camp den mothers, carring out the fuhrer's wishes of creating his OWN FEELINGS, for all as supreme.


and so, it does appear that it twas correctly stated in the "benefits of blunt and harsh speech", that such does indeed expose the wouldbe dictator's, whom would wish all freedom's erased, if it spared their own "feelers"...

and as well, nothing does this except that which matches all the qualities of the "wicked stepmother syndrome", who see other human's as the self validating mirror for self, beleiving that ALL are supposed to tell self how awesome it is, and if they don't...

no useful purpose for these mortals.

which create EXTREME FRUSTRATION in this mentality, which becomes as loathing, which becomes as hate...

omg...

hello...

the "control freaks", who believe their OWN FEELINGS, should decide the words allowable on planet earth, the dictators who believe their "feelings" are TO BE THE FORCED GUIDE OF AND FOR ALL?

the guide for all huh...

wow...

such mentality is what has created the present atmosphere of hate mongering in the world.

no wonder you say you cant bring yourself to read my stuff, because you would either have to hate me, or relax and admit self wishes to control all others, and then DECIDE TO LIVE AND LET LIVE, and give up the hate of what does not "FEEL" as you do, lol...

and then, happy could come for more than just one.

again, anything that thinks with this self as surpreme control all other feelings is free to hate me, lol...







I think you should flesh out your thoughts a bit more. Your verbiage is not excessive enough.

krupa's photo
Tue 11/02/10 03:32 PM
Needless to say..aint no damned way I am going to read the anthology above me.

Less is more people. Learn it. Live it. Love it.

Back to the topic at hand.

You want to limit your carreer? BE HONEST...I was told I will never make upper mgmt because I am too honest. I laughed when I was told. "Yeah, I just aint no good at saying s**t that I dont mean to peoples face. But, you guys are really good at it!" I am forever doomed to middle mgmt.

Want to put a bullet through the head of your love life? Shoot off a few honesty bullets.

"I think your family is a freakshow and I detest having those inbreds intrude on every damned holiday"

"No baby, you didn't lose 15 pounds.....they are right behind you. turn around...they are right there!"

"Damn! That is one ugly kid you spawned! Shoulda thrown that one to the wolves"

Wanna shed a few friends? Be honest..........

"Your old lady hits on me when you are passed out drunk"

"Dang! Your daughter has a nice @ss!"


Dont get me wrong...honesty has its place....so does diplomacy. So does keeping quiet cause sometimes some things are better left unsaid.

TxsGal3333's photo
Tue 11/02/10 03:45 PM

Needless to say..aint no damned way I am going to read the anthology above me.

Less is more people. Learn it. Live it. Love it.

Back to the topic at hand.

You want to limit your carreer? BE HONEST...I was told I will never make upper mgmt because I am too honest. I laughed when I was told. "Yeah, I just aint no good at saying s**t that I dont mean to peoples face. But, you guys are really good at it!" I am forever doomed to middle mgmt.

Want to put a bullet through the head of your love life? Shoot off a few honesty bullets.

"I think your family is a freakshow and I detest having those inbreds intrude on every damned holiday"

"No baby, you didn't lose 15 pounds.....they are right behind you. turn around...they are right there!"

"Damn! That is one ugly kid you spawned! Shoulda thrown that one to the wolves"

Wanna shed a few friends? Be honest..........

"Your old lady hits on me when you are passed out drunk"

"Dang! Your daughter has a nice @ss!"


Dont get me wrong...honesty has its place....so does diplomacy. So does keeping quiet cause sometimes some things are better left unsaid.


[b Could not have said it any better........ There is a place and time for everything one just has to learn not to let their mouth over ride their azz...... and dig them a hole they can't get out of.....:thumbsup:

krupa's photo
Tue 11/02/10 04:22 PM
Hey Kristy! Aint you one hot looking pirate queen! I would happily walk the plank for plundering your booty.

(lets see where this smidgeon of honesty gets me)

davidben1's photo
Tue 11/02/10 04:28 PM
there ain't no hole one can dig, that it wants to get out of, lest it first wanted something from another human for itself.

thats just a "few" words, lol...

are few words deemed as better than many words?

such would indeed show a bias toward few words, over many words.

well, lets see, the government that protect self and all life is governed by reems and reems of millions of pages of long data?

is there a stated length that posts are required to be?

i can meet any expectation of any law or bylaw, if allerted to such in advance.

if not, then would any mortal be wise to accept a biased perception as wise?

indeed, many words are good sometime, just as few words are good sometime, would be the only equal, so the only assessment not to have bias?

if there is preference of one over the other, would this not most show the will to make other's suite the "self taste", therefore indicating but personal bias in the favor of self?

are not winter and summer as equal to each other.

hot and cold as equal to each other?

harsh and kind then as equal to each other?

long and short as both equal in value as well?

hum...

so, since bias is seen in the advice, i respectfully decline to accept such as "good advice", as some guide and basis for behaviour and action on at ALL TIMES.

short, live by it?

make sure not to travel too far...

make sure not to make love for too long...

really, such advice interpreted, means suite me, any my own personal bias, or else, your not as good as me, lol...

indeed, many of my post are but a one sentence, so there is equal in the fashion that they are written, if one look past it's personal preference as the dictator of all other's.

krupa's photo
Tue 11/02/10 04:39 PM
No limits bro.

To each thier own.

I used to whip out my extensive vocabulary to wow the peasants...till I realized I was just alienating myself by shoving my superior IQ in random strangers faces and using archaic references that required a thesaurus for translation.

Now, I just talk like a half drunk sailor and everyone knows what I mean. Works for me.

Do your thang my man. Nosdrowie'