Topic: Why I, on the whole, hate people
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Sat 10/23/10 10:21 AM

Here is one for you -- I grew up in a small town in mb. I ticked off 2 women by not taking their crap. When I moved out to a city (unfortunately not far enough)- I lived my life. Then a time later, I started a new job, which I later found out that one of the women (that I ticked off) contacted my employer and said several nasty things about me(sour lover, and other....etc). I ended up leaving my job. I really could not find decent work. I ended up with an *******-left him, with my child. I moved back to the same small town (only place where i had family to help). I couldn't get a decent job in the shithole. I worked the crap jobs, took courses and went into debt
Years later still working (took a long time but got a little better job) and loaded down with debts--can't afford to move. I am older, now my kid near graduation. The years living in the shithole----I lived a life of a hermit-explains why I resorted to dating sites. So I know and lived how people are cruel, vindictive, two-faced, gossipy, and low-life they can be (there a very few exceptions)....This is only a very small tidbit of the crap I have encountered because of people.
PS. The 2 people that started all this are rich...they both ended up with rich men. So all you men that cry the blues ...look in the mirror -you made the choice so you live with it!!!!



ummm...wtf?

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Sat 10/23/10 10:23 AM

Love thy neighbor or move to the Middle East and become a Muslim!

Yay!





:banana: rofl

venusenvy's photo
Sat 10/23/10 10:23 AM





Nobody...with all due respect "helps" anyone unless they feel some greater reward in doing so.....


if by greater reward you mean a sense of compassion, then i agree. otherwise, 'nobody' is gonna be really disappointed in this life always expecting something in return, that's a sad outlook...IMHO.




Indeed.
And what's also sad is that now the next person I come across who needs help won't get it from me.



With all due respect, I understand how your feeling, I think weve all been there. However, you cant give gifts,or help with expectations attached. Once somethings given, its gone. Its on the reciever then, not on you. You did the right thing...karma will reward you for it...the other person is in the wrong, but theve got bad karma on thier azz now. Just wait, you will see that person get exactly what they deserve. Happens every time. While you go on to live a good life...this person has set themselves back a mile. They are thier own worst enemy and will have a rotten life for it. Please this world needs more openhearted peeps, not less. Be true to yourself and be the good person you truly are. flowerforyou


lol...yeah, it'd be nice if karma was true.
But thx for the kind words anyway.
:smile:



Karma is true Its the great equalizer. The one force humans can create but cant control ...if you need proof look at your own life...you are succesful, own your own Business and will never be in the postion the person you helped is. Your kind, intelligent,good hearted and have a good life...you need look no farther for proof darlin...your living it. flowerforyou

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Sat 10/23/10 10:30 AM
...and now, for something completely off the subject;

“It may be true that one has to choose between ethics and aesthetics, but it is no less true that whichever one chooses, one will always find the other at the end of the road.”
—Jean-Luc Godard



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Sat 10/23/10 10:34 AM






Nobody...with all due respect "helps" anyone unless they feel some greater reward in doing so.....


if by greater reward you mean a sense of compassion, then i agree. otherwise, 'nobody' is gonna be really disappointed in this life always expecting something in return, that's a sad outlook...IMHO.




Indeed.
And what's also sad is that now the next person I come across who needs help won't get it from me.



With all due respect, I understand how your feeling, I think weve all been there. However, you cant give gifts,or help with expectations attached. Once somethings given, its gone. Its on the reciever then, not on you. You did the right thing...karma will reward you for it...the other person is in the wrong, but theve got bad karma on thier azz now. Just wait, you will see that person get exactly what they deserve. Happens every time. While you go on to live a good life...this person has set themselves back a mile. They are thier own worst enemy and will have a rotten life for it. Please this world needs more openhearted peeps, not less. Be true to yourself and be the good person you truly are. flowerforyou


lol...yeah, it'd be nice if karma was true.
But thx for the kind words anyway.
:smile:



Karma is true Its the great equalizer. The one force humans can create but cant control ...if you need proof look at your own life...you are succesful, own your own Business and will never be in the postion the person you helped is. Your kind, intelligent,good hearted and have a good life...you need look no farther for proof darlin...your living it. flowerforyou


Yeah right. Ok, here's your proof. I've got no money. I put off car repairs and other bills to help her. Biz is down close to 60% in this wonderful economy. I've gone from 12 employees to 7. I live in a crappy little rented house. Unless my g/f is cooking for me, I live on pb&j sandwhiches and microwavable bag dinners. When Obama's healthcare bill goes into full effect, I'll lose at least another employee and possibly just go out of business. But then, when I'm on welfare, I'll qualify for free healthcare.

Sorry, but karma is nothing more than wishful thinking.
But thanks anyway.

venusenvy's photo
Sat 10/23/10 10:42 AM
Whether you believe in Karma or Not A, doesnt really matter...Im sorry to hear your going through hard times. I dont believe in your heart you are a bad person who "hates people" is all. Angry, worried, sure...but hateful? no never. I simply dont believe that flowerforyou

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Sat 10/23/10 11:13 AM
Edited by davidben1 on Sat 10/23/10 11:19 AM
it is only knowing "when" to give, that decide what shall be created by self giving?

if one "give to", what look out but for themself alone, shall they become more greedy, and self protecting alone, or less greedy, and looking more to common good?

one man lay his cocck in a women MOST for his own pleasure...

another man lay his cocck in a women MOST for her happy and pleasure...

are both men the same?

the action can look exact...

so FEW action's are accurate in accessing the "motive"...

a kiss can be to aquire what one "want" for itself, or for love, or caring about another's sake?

for betrayal or love?

no doubt the entire substance of these two men described is different?

so what be created shall be totally different?

by what looks like the same action?

if indeed these two men are "different", then it be in the motive?

the unseen, that control what be "next created", or "seen" with the eye?

one of the biggest tells of the "self motive alone" run amock, be the one that ask?

a finely crafted "no" be one of the greatest things one can use to create "more good", and restrict or keep from, creating "less good"?

the world has become more each day a place where the notion is to expect "good" for themself alone, with no sight of "common" or mutual good...

if one "ask" for help, such be a tell of who expects?

but many haved been raised with the notion to expect, even the entire environment perpetrating "good" for self is it's RIGHT, creating more each day, a place where less believe they must CREATE GOOD, using the "common" good of other's, as well as themself together as equally important?

will one that ask always be the most "none carer"?

any answer would be a generalization, so one needs more "power", or information, or better tactics to use?

"no".

the magic word really is no...

if another want something, or ask something, it is easy to tell if they are but a taker, with a "no"?

the more easily a no be accepted, the less of a "taking or expecting or demanding" mentality embraced or used by this one?

give to the demander, the one that pressure, create a taking monster?

for example, "if what you WANT is important, why is not what i WANT inportant?

there be not a taker met yet, that can get past such, without showing itself dosen't give a **** about what another want's at all?

to give to this one, creates a greater belief that "other's" that don't give to self, are the enemy, and it cannot be missed, in ALL cases of violence, intentional harm, these COULD NOT ACCEPT A "NO".

so even to give a "no" to what one really loves, and wants to give to, helps them shed the natural "expectation of good" for themself mentality, which actually in time, can destroy any "good" feeling even felt when one does have?

so there be no need to decrease the best part of self, which be the caring of other's besides itself, but rather only to get smarter about how to care?

if they recieve a "no", with no sign of being slighted, this one shall utilize help or giving to "create"...

anyone else, will take what be given, or help, and use it to sustain until they can find another "giver", bouncing from one to the next, leaving in their wake many "scores not settled".

and, each time they are given to, they do get smarter, but only smarter at "how to get what self wants by talking other's out of it"?

this seems to be the greatest learning on planet earth right now, lol...

does this not prove they do not "respect another", or care about what they want, about their insight, as much as what they do about their own?

in a world where self interest as self supremacy has run amock, only the wiser will be able to navigate and not lesson their own quality of life, by taking on hate themself.

my rule for myself is three "no", even if i intend to give, and if they make it thru three "no's", each time accepting them without bias, then giving to them shall not make more sadness for them, by them each day disliking more who say's "no" to them, even coming to "hate" who does not give to them, even some later, comeing to "perpetratea physical harm" to what gives them a "no"...

IF ONE REALLY LOOK, IT CAN BE SEEN, THAT "ALL" CRIME COMES FIRST FROM WHAT "COULD NOT" ACCEPT A "NO" FOR ITSELF FROM ANOTHER.

if one cannot accept a "no" in these days, most if they display "anger" over a "no", i would use extreme kindness as "stealth" and wisdom to extricate oneself from interation with these types...

the more one hate a "no", the more anit-social, passive agressive, and soon sociopathic it's thinking shall become, so then it's action's.

if one looks, the only way a "highly distinguished military officer", can come to be a cross dressing killer, WITH NO PREVIOUS INDICATION?

hell no, there were many.

one thing for sure, HE WAS NOT USED TO ACCEPTING A "NO", for in his position of "power", few told him "NO", and it shall come to light, he was a very abusive ONE, from not giving a **** about a NO, and all around him tolerated it.



the more aggressive and "taking" mentality shall be created in what CANNOT AND WILL NOT ACCEPT A "NO".

there be no better way to "hire" good employee's, then using the "no" test on them.

watch their every body language and behaviour and attitude, after first allowing them to divulge all the reason's they should "get", and then politely say "no"...

the more "fight" be raised in them, the LEAST carer of other's one has on it's hands.

ok...

hope makes sense.

one cent




Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 10/23/10 11:21 AM
Well I had thoughts on this subject...after the last post there is nothing more to say...

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Sat 10/23/10 11:21 AM

Whether you believe in Karma or Not A, doesnt really matter...Im sorry to hear your going through hard times. I dont believe in your heart you are a bad person who "hates people" is all. Angry, worried, sure...but hateful? no never. I simply dont believe that flowerforyou


Thanks. Seriously, thanks. I needed that.

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Sat 10/23/10 11:24 AM

it is only knowing "when" to give, that decide what shall be created by self giving?

if one "give to", what look out but for themself alone, shall they become more greedy, and self protecting alone, or less greedy, and looking more to common good?

one man lay his cocck in a women MOST for his own pleasure...

another man lay his cocck in a women MOST for her happy and pleasure...

are both men the same?

the action can look exact...

so FEW action's are accurate in accessing the "motive"...

a kiss can be to aquire what one "want" for itself, or for love, or caring about another's sake?

for betrayal or love?

no doubt the entire substance of these two men described is different?

so what be created shall be totally different?

by what looks like the same action?

if indeed these two men are "different", then it be in the motive?

the unseen, that control what be "next created", or "seen" with the eye?

one of the biggest tells of the "self motive alone" run amock, be the one that ask?

a finely crafted "no" be one of the greatest things one can use to create "more good", and restrict or keep from, creating "less good"?

the world has become more each day a place where the notion is to expect "good" for themself alone, with no sight of "common" or mutual good...

if one "ask" for help, such be a tell of who expects?

but many haved been raised with the notion to expect, even the entire environment perpetrating "good" for self is it's RIGHT, creating more each day, a place where less believe they must CREATE GOOD, using the "common" good of other's, as well as themself together as equally important?

will one that ask always be the most "none carer"?

any answer would be a generalization, so one needs more "power", or information, or better tactics to use?

"no".

the magic word really is no...

if another want something, or ask something, it is easy to tell if they are but a taker, with a "no"?

the more easily a no be accepted, the less of a "taking or expecting or demanding" mentality embraced or used by this one?

give to the demander, the one that pressure, create a taking monster?

for example, "if what you WANT is important, why is not what i WANT inportant?

there be not a taker met yet, that can get past such, without showing itself dosen't give a **** about what another want's at all?

to give to this one, creates a greater belief that "other's" that don't give to self, are the enemy, and it cannot be missed, in ALL cases of violence, intentional harm, these COULD NOT ACCEPT A "NO".

so even to give a "no" to what one really loves, and wants to give to, helps them shed the natural "expectation of good" for themself mentality, which actually in time, can destroy any "good" feeling even felt when one does have?

so there be no need to decrease the best part of self, which be the caring of other's besides itself, but rather only to get smarter about how to care?

if they recieve a "no", with no sign of being slighted, this one shall utilize help or giving to "create"...

anyone else, will take what be given, or help, and use it to sustain until they can find another "giver", bouncing from one to the next, leaving in their wake many "scores not settled".

and, each time they are given to, they do get smarter, but only smarter at "how to get what self wants by talking other's out of it"?

this seems to be the greatest learning on planet earth right now, lol...

does this not prove they do not "respect another", or care about what they want, about their insight, as much as what they do about their own?

in a world where self interest as self supremacy has run amock, only the wiser will be able to navigate and not lesson their own quality of life, by taking on hate themself.

my rule for myself is three "no", even if i intend to give, and if they make it thru three "no's", each time accepting them without bias, then giving to them shall not make more sadness for them, by them each day disliking more who say's "no" to them, even coming to "hate" who does not give to them, even some later, comeing to "perpetratea physical harm" to what gives them a "no"...

IF ONE REALLY LOOK, IT CAN BE SEEN, THAT "ALL" CRIME COMES FIRST FROM WHAT "COULD NOT" ACCEPT A "NO" FOR ITSELF FROM ANOTHER.

if one cannot accept a "no" in these days, most if they display "anger" over a "no", i would use extreme kindness as "stealth" and wisdom to extricate oneself from interation with these types...

the more one hate a "no", the more anit-social, passive agressive, and soon sociopathic it's thinking shall become, so then it's action's.

if one looks, the only way a "highly distinguished military officer", can come to be a cross dressing killer, WITH NO PREVIOUS INDICATION?

hell no, there were many.

one thing for sure, HE WAS NOT USED TO ACCEPTING A "NO", for in his position of "power", few told him "NO", and it shall come to light, he was a very abusive ONE, from not giving a **** about a NO, and all around him tolerated it.



the more aggressive and "taking" mentality shall be created in what CANNOT AND WILL NOT ACCEPT A "NO".

there be no better way to "hire" good employee's, then using the "no" test on them.

watch their every body language and behaviour and attitude, after first allowing them to divulge all the reason's they should "get", and then politely say "no"...

the more "fight" be raised in them, the LEAST carer of other's one has on it's hands.

ok...

hope makes sense.

one cent






I think I get the gist of what you wrote. And, you're probably correct.
However, I am curious why you choose King James as the style of writing to emulate?

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Sat 10/23/10 11:25 AM

Well I had thoughts on this subject...after the last post there is nothing more to say...


aww..I always like reading your thoughts...

davidben1's photo
Sat 10/23/10 11:34 AM
Edited by davidben1 on Sat 10/23/10 11:39 AM
sorry dude...

it's just they way it comes out when i wish to communicate precisely, about a precise thing.

i didn't "choose", as in some pre-mediatated, how to write, lol...

i just "write" the way the words or thoughts come to my mind.

just writing every thought, as it comes to me.

i know really know how to write or think any other way, about such things, lol...

just one cent, that's all

davidben1's photo
Sat 10/23/10 11:43 AM
ladylid...

it be not missed, you are a deep longer of true solution for more than just yourself.

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Sat 10/23/10 11:50 AM

it is only knowing "when" to give, that decide what shall be created by self giving?

if one "give to", what look out but for themself alone, shall they become more greedy, and self protecting alone, or less greedy, and looking more to common good?

one man lay his cocck in a women MOST for his own pleasure...

another man lay his cocck in a women MOST for her happy and pleasure...

are both men the same?

the action can look exact...

so FEW action's are accurate in accessing the "motive"...

a kiss can be to aquire what one "want" for itself, or for love, or caring about another's sake?

for betrayal or love?

no doubt the entire substance of these two men described is different?

so what be created shall be totally different?

by what looks like the same action?

if indeed these two men are "different", then it be in the motive?

the unseen, that control what be "next created", or "seen" with the eye?

one of the biggest tells of the "self motive alone" run amock, be the one that ask?

a finely crafted "no" be one of the greatest things one can use to create "more good", and restrict or keep from, creating "less good"?

the world has become more each day a place where the notion is to expect "good" for themself alone, with no sight of "common" or mutual good...

if one "ask" for help, such be a tell of who expects?

but many haved been raised with the notion to expect, even the entire environment perpetrating "good" for self is it's RIGHT, creating more each day, a place where less believe they must CREATE GOOD, using the "common" good of other's, as well as themself together as equally important?

will one that ask always be the most "none carer"?

any answer would be a generalization, so one needs more "power", or information, or better tactics to use?

"no".

the magic word really is no...

if another want something, or ask something, it is easy to tell if they are but a taker, with a "no"?

the more easily a no be accepted, the less of a "taking or expecting or demanding" mentality embraced or used by this one?

give to the demander, the one that pressure, create a taking monster?

for example, "if what you WANT is important, why is not what i WANT inportant?

there be not a taker met yet, that can get past such, without showing itself dosen't give a **** about what another want's at all?

to give to this one, creates a greater belief that "other's" that don't give to self, are the enemy, and it cannot be missed, in ALL cases of violence, intentional harm, these COULD NOT ACCEPT A "NO".

so even to give a "no" to what one really loves, and wants to give to, helps them shed the natural "expectation of good" for themself mentality, which actually in time, can destroy any "good" feeling even felt when one does have?

so there be no need to decrease the best part of self, which be the caring of other's besides itself, but rather only to get smarter about how to care?

if they recieve a "no", with no sign of being slighted, this one shall utilize help or giving to "create"...

anyone else, will take what be given, or help, and use it to sustain until they can find another "giver", bouncing from one to the next, leaving in their wake many "scores not settled".

and, each time they are given to, they do get smarter, but only smarter at "how to get what self wants by talking other's out of it"?

this seems to be the greatest learning on planet earth right now, lol...

does this not prove they do not "respect another", or care about what they want, about their insight, as much as what they do about their own?

in a world where self interest as self supremacy has run amock, only the wiser will be able to navigate and not lesson their own quality of life, by taking on hate themself.

my rule for myself is three "no", even if i intend to give, and if they make it thru three "no's", each time accepting them without bias, then giving to them shall not make more sadness for them, by them each day disliking more who say's "no" to them, even coming to "hate" who does not give to them, even some later, comeing to "perpetratea physical harm" to what gives them a "no"...

IF ONE REALLY LOOK, IT CAN BE SEEN, THAT "ALL" CRIME COMES FIRST FROM WHAT "COULD NOT" ACCEPT A "NO" FOR ITSELF FROM ANOTHER.

if one cannot accept a "no" in these days, most if they display "anger" over a "no", i would use extreme kindness as "stealth" and wisdom to extricate oneself from interation with these types...

the more one hate a "no", the more anit-social, passive agressive, and soon sociopathic it's thinking shall become, so then it's action's.

if one looks, the only way a "highly distinguished military officer", can come to be a cross dressing killer, WITH NO PREVIOUS INDICATION?

hell no, there were many.

one thing for sure, HE WAS NOT USED TO ACCEPTING A "NO", for in his position of "power", few told him "NO", and it shall come to light, he was a very abusive ONE, from not giving a **** about a NO, and all around him tolerated it.



the more aggressive and "taking" mentality shall be created in what CANNOT AND WILL NOT ACCEPT A "NO".

there be no better way to "hire" good employee's, then using the "no" test on them.

watch their every body language and behaviour and attitude, after first allowing them to divulge all the reason's they should "get", and then politely say "no"...

the more "fight" be raised in them, the LEAST carer of other's one has on it's hands.

ok...

hope makes sense.

one cent






That's only one cent?:tongue:

davidben1's photo
Sat 10/23/10 11:52 AM
indeed indeed indeed, one cent it be.

it be only what believe itself contain two cents, that allow's not another cent into it's mind as good.


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Sat 10/23/10 11:53 AM
"I like to watch the news, because I don't like people very much and when you watch the news... if you ever had an idea that people were really terrible, you could watch the news and know that you're right." -- Frank Zappa


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Sat 10/23/10 11:54 AM
This is why financial books are important, I still know everyone that owes me money...and when the time comes I will find them, and when I do...well, hell has this funny way of becoming too hot.smokin

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Sat 10/23/10 11:59 AM

This is why financial books are important, I still know everyone that owes me money...and when the time comes I will find them, and when I do...well, hell has this funny way of becoming too hot.smokin


Do you still keep the names written in that Snoopy binder?

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 10/23/10 11:59 AM

ladylid...

it be not missed, you are a deep longer of true solution for more than just yourself.


indeed...and will be as long as I'm on this planet, perhaps beyond.

venusenvy's photo
Sat 10/23/10 12:08 PM


Whether you believe in Karma or Not A, doesnt really matter...Im sorry to hear your going through hard times. I dont believe in your heart you are a bad person who "hates people" is all. Angry, worried, sure...but hateful? no never. I simply dont believe that flowerforyou


Thanks. Seriously, thanks. I needed that.


I just think if you are a true hater...you wouldnt have reached out a hand in the first place. We all get knocked down, but its what we do when we get back up that counts. Letting this rotten incident change who you essentially are, isnt gonna work for you anyway. Soooo to thine own self be true. Im also sending you a huge cyberhug right now flowerforyou