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AP - Friday, October 22, 2010 3:33:14 PM By RAPHAEL G. SATTER and MICHAEL WEISSENSTEIN
"U.S. forces often failed to follow up on credible evidence that Iraqi forces mistreated, tortured and killed their captives in the battle against a violent insurgency, according to accounts contained in what was purportedly the largest leak of secret information in U.S. history. The documents are among nearly 400,000 released Friday by the WikiLeaks website in defiance of Pentagon insistence that the action puts the lives of U.S. troops and their coalition partners at risk. Although the documents appear to be authentic, their origin could not be independently confirmed, and WikiLeaks declined to offer any details about them. The Pentagon has previously declined to confirm the authenticity of WikiLeaks-released records, but it has employed more than 100 U.S. analysts to review what was previously released and has never indicated that any past WikiLeaks releases were inaccurate. The 391,831 documents date from the start of 2004 to Jan. 1, 2010, mostly by low-ranking officers in the field. In terse, dry language, they catalog thousands of battles with insurgents and roadside bomb attacks, along with equipment failures and shootings by civilian contractors. The documents describe a full gamut of a country at war: shootings at military checkpoints, contractors firing on Iraqis and savage acts committed on prisoners using boiling water, metal rods, electric shocks and rubber hoses. A group that counts casualties from the war said the files also document 15,000 previously unreported deaths. The United States went to war in part to end the brutality of Saddam Hussein's regime, but the WikiLeaks material depicts American officers caught in a complicated and chaotic conflict in which they often did little but report to their superiors when they found evidence that their Iraqi allies were committing their own abuses. In some cases, the reports show the U.S. military intervening to protect detainees, but in many others officers did not act on what their troops described as clear evidence of abuse. Allegations of torture and brutality by Shiite-dominated security forces -- mostly against Sunni prisoners -- were widely reported during the most violent years of the war when the rival Islamic sects turned on one another in Baghdad and other cities. The leaked documents provide a ground's eye view of abuses as reported by U.S. military personnel to their superiors, and appear to corroborate much of the past reporting. WikiLeaks said it provided unredacted versions of the reports weeks ahead of time to several news organizations, including the New York Times, Le Monde, The Guardian and Der Spiegel. It gave The Associated Press and several other news organizations access to a searchable, redacted database hours before its general release Friday." More.... http://www.mail.com/Article.aspx/tech/0/APNews/Tech/20101023/U_WikiLeaks?pageid=1 |
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AP - Friday, October 22, 2010 3:33:14 PM By RAPHAEL G. SATTER and MICHAEL WEISSENSTEIN "U.S. forces often failed to follow up on credible evidence that Iraqi forces mistreated, tortured and killed their captives in the battle against a violent insurgency, according to accounts contained in what was purportedly the largest leak of secret information in U.S. history. The documents are among nearly 400,000 released Friday by the WikiLeaks website in defiance of Pentagon insistence that the action puts the lives of U.S. troops and their coalition partners at risk. Although the documents appear to be authentic, their origin could not be independently confirmed, and WikiLeaks declined to offer any details about them. The Pentagon has previously declined to confirm the authenticity of WikiLeaks-released records, but it has employed more than 100 U.S. analysts to review what was previously released and has never indicated that any past WikiLeaks releases were inaccurate. The 391,831 documents date from the start of 2004 to Jan. 1, 2010, mostly by low-ranking officers in the field. In terse, dry language, they catalog thousands of battles with insurgents and roadside bomb attacks, along with equipment failures and shootings by civilian contractors. The documents describe a full gamut of a country at war: shootings at military checkpoints, contractors firing on Iraqis and savage acts committed on prisoners using boiling water, metal rods, electric shocks and rubber hoses. A group that counts casualties from the war said the files also document 15,000 previously unreported deaths. The United States went to war in part to end the brutality of Saddam Hussein's regime, but the WikiLeaks material depicts American officers caught in a complicated and chaotic conflict in which they often did little but report to their superiors when they found evidence that their Iraqi allies were committing their own abuses. In some cases, the reports show the U.S. military intervening to protect detainees, but in many others officers did not act on what their troops described as clear evidence of abuse. Allegations of torture and brutality by Shiite-dominated security forces -- mostly against Sunni prisoners -- were widely reported during the most violent years of the war when the rival Islamic sects turned on one another in Baghdad and other cities. The leaked documents provide a ground's eye view of abuses as reported by U.S. military personnel to their superiors, and appear to corroborate much of the past reporting. WikiLeaks said it provided unredacted versions of the reports weeks ahead of time to several news organizations, including the New York Times, Le Monde, The Guardian and Der Spiegel. It gave The Associated Press and several other news organizations access to a searchable, redacted database hours before its general release Friday." More.... http://www.mail.com/Article.aspx/tech/0/APNews/Tech/20101023/U_WikiLeaks?pageid=1 Alls fair in love and war........your killing people abuse charges are just stupid....its war...nothing pretty about it |
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Alls fair in love and war........your killing people abuse charges are just stupid....its war...nothing pretty about it When you right, you right!! 
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i don't remember any of our forces chopping anyone's heads off...
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i don't remember any of our forces chopping anyone's heads off... And civilian heads on video ta' boot! They didn't really mean to go through with it. It happened when the director yelled,"Cut!" |
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i don't remember any of our forces chopping anyone's heads off... And civilian heads on video ta' boot! They didn't really mean to go through with it. It happened when the director yelled,"Cut!" lol...they misinterpreted... 
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AP - Friday, October 22, 2010 3:33:14 PM By RAPHAEL G. SATTER and MICHAEL WEISSENSTEIN "U.S. forces often failed to follow up on credible evidence that Iraqi forces mistreated, tortured and killed their captives in the battle against a violent insurgency, according to accounts contained in what was purportedly the largest leak of secret information in U.S. history. The documents are among nearly 400,000 released Friday by the WikiLeaks website in defiance of Pentagon insistence that the action puts the lives of U.S. troops and their coalition partners at risk. Although the documents appear to be authentic, their origin could not be independently confirmed, and WikiLeaks declined to offer any details about them. The Pentagon has previously declined to confirm the authenticity of WikiLeaks-released records, but it has employed more than 100 U.S. analysts to review what was previously released and has never indicated that any past WikiLeaks releases were inaccurate. The 391,831 documents date from the start of 2004 to Jan. 1, 2010, mostly by low-ranking officers in the field. In terse, dry language, they catalog thousands of battles with insurgents and roadside bomb attacks, along with equipment failures and shootings by civilian contractors. The documents describe a full gamut of a country at war: shootings at military checkpoints, contractors firing on Iraqis and savage acts committed on prisoners using boiling water, metal rods, electric shocks and rubber hoses. A group that counts casualties from the war said the files also document 15,000 previously unreported deaths. The United States went to war in part to end the brutality of Saddam Hussein's regime, but the WikiLeaks material depicts American officers caught in a complicated and chaotic conflict in which they often did little but report to their superiors when they found evidence that their Iraqi allies were committing their own abuses. In some cases, the reports show the U.S. military intervening to protect detainees, but in many others officers did not act on what their troops described as clear evidence of abuse. Allegations of torture and brutality by Shiite-dominated security forces -- mostly against Sunni prisoners -- were widely reported during the most violent years of the war when the rival Islamic sects turned on one another in Baghdad and other cities. The leaked documents provide a ground's eye view of abuses as reported by U.S. military personnel to their superiors, and appear to corroborate much of the past reporting. WikiLeaks said it provided unredacted versions of the reports weeks ahead of time to several news organizations, including the New York Times, Le Monde, The Guardian and Der Spiegel. It gave The Associated Press and several other news organizations access to a searchable, redacted database hours before its general release Friday." More.... http://www.mail.com/Article.aspx/tech/0/APNews/Tech/20101023/U_WikiLeaks?pageid=1 Alls fair in love and war........your killing people abuse charges are just stupid....its war...nothing pretty about it Soooo, you obect to prosecuting war crimes? I guess if you'd been in charge there'd have been no Nuremberg trials..NICE! How American! Great values!  |
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AP - Friday, October 22, 2010 3:33:14 PM By RAPHAEL G. SATTER and MICHAEL WEISSENSTEIN "U.S. forces often failed to follow up on credible evidence that Iraqi forces mistreated, tortured and killed their captives in the battle against a violent insurgency, according to accounts contained in what was purportedly the largest leak of secret information in U.S. history. The documents are among nearly 400,000 released Friday by the WikiLeaks website in defiance of Pentagon insistence that the action puts the lives of U.S. troops and their coalition partners at risk. Although the documents appear to be authentic, their origin could not be independently confirmed, and WikiLeaks declined to offer any details about them. The Pentagon has previously declined to confirm the authenticity of WikiLeaks-released records, but it has employed more than 100 U.S. analysts to review what was previously released and has never indicated that any past WikiLeaks releases were inaccurate. The 391,831 documents date from the start of 2004 to Jan. 1, 2010, mostly by low-ranking officers in the field. In terse, dry language, they catalog thousands of battles with insurgents and roadside bomb attacks, along with equipment failures and shootings by civilian contractors. The documents describe a full gamut of a country at war: shootings at military checkpoints, contractors firing on Iraqis and savage acts committed on prisoners using boiling water, metal rods, electric shocks and rubber hoses. A group that counts casualties from the war said the files also document 15,000 previously unreported deaths. The United States went to war in part to end the brutality of Saddam Hussein's regime, but the WikiLeaks material depicts American officers caught in a complicated and chaotic conflict in which they often did little but report to their superiors when they found evidence that their Iraqi allies were committing their own abuses. In some cases, the reports show the U.S. military intervening to protect detainees, but in many others officers did not act on what their troops described as clear evidence of abuse. Allegations of torture and brutality by Shiite-dominated security forces -- mostly against Sunni prisoners -- were widely reported during the most violent years of the war when the rival Islamic sects turned on one another in Baghdad and other cities. The leaked documents provide a ground's eye view of abuses as reported by U.S. military personnel to their superiors, and appear to corroborate much of the past reporting. WikiLeaks said it provided unredacted versions of the reports weeks ahead of time to several news organizations, including the New York Times, Le Monde, The Guardian and Der Spiegel. It gave The Associated Press and several other news organizations access to a searchable, redacted database hours before its general release Friday." More.... http://www.mail.com/Article.aspx/tech/0/APNews/Tech/20101023/U_WikiLeaks?pageid=1 Alls fair in love and war........your killing people abuse charges are just stupid....its war...nothing pretty about it Soooo, you obect to prosecuting war crimes? I guess if you'd been in charge there'd have been no Nuremberg trials..NICE! How American! Great values! Really because I thought making prisoners of war into lamp shades and starving prisoners of war not on the battle field quit different than torturing for information which by the way the other side will show you no mercy.....don't believe our troops have starved anyone......but yeah war is war and its an ugly business and its not for others to determine whether situation warrants excessive force but for our troops that protect the US......I just find it a dbl standard when the oppositions is praised for excessive force.... |
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Illegals are criminals and Libs do nothing but reward them.
Criminals are criminals. Don't prosecute one, prosecute none. |
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And I would call not believing in freedom of press and speech anti-american not not believing that the laws of immigrations should be upheld anti-american........taking away the right to bear arms anti-american
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AP - Friday, October 22, 2010 3:33:14 PM By RAPHAEL G. SATTER and MICHAEL WEISSENSTEIN "U.S. forces often failed to follow up on credible evidence that Iraqi forces mistreated, tortured and killed their captives in the battle against a violent insurgency, according to accounts contained in what was purportedly the largest leak of secret information in U.S. history. The documents are among nearly 400,000 released Friday by the WikiLeaks website in defiance of Pentagon insistence that the action puts the lives of U.S. troops and their coalition partners at risk. Although the documents appear to be authentic, their origin could not be independently confirmed, and WikiLeaks declined to offer any details about them. The Pentagon has previously declined to confirm the authenticity of WikiLeaks-released records, but it has employed more than 100 U.S. analysts to review what was previously released and has never indicated that any past WikiLeaks releases were inaccurate. The 391,831 documents date from the start of 2004 to Jan. 1, 2010, mostly by low-ranking officers in the field. In terse, dry language, they catalog thousands of battles with insurgents and roadside bomb attacks, along with equipment failures and shootings by civilian contractors. The documents describe a full gamut of a country at war: shootings at military checkpoints, contractors firing on Iraqis and savage acts committed on prisoners using boiling water, metal rods, electric shocks and rubber hoses. A group that counts casualties from the war said the files also document 15,000 previously unreported deaths. The United States went to war in part to end the brutality of Saddam Hussein's regime, but the WikiLeaks material depicts American officers caught in a complicated and chaotic conflict in which they often did little but report to their superiors when they found evidence that their Iraqi allies were committing their own abuses. In some cases, the reports show the U.S. military intervening to protect detainees, but in many others officers did not act on what their troops described as clear evidence of abuse. Allegations of torture and brutality by Shiite-dominated security forces -- mostly against Sunni prisoners -- were widely reported during the most violent years of the war when the rival Islamic sects turned on one another in Baghdad and other cities. The leaked documents provide a ground's eye view of abuses as reported by U.S. military personnel to their superiors, and appear to corroborate much of the past reporting. WikiLeaks said it provided unredacted versions of the reports weeks ahead of time to several news organizations, including the New York Times, Le Monde, The Guardian and Der Spiegel. It gave The Associated Press and several other news organizations access to a searchable, redacted database hours before its general release Friday." More.... http://www.mail.com/Article.aspx/tech/0/APNews/Tech/20101023/U_WikiLeaks?pageid=1 Alls fair in love and war........your killing people abuse charges are just stupid....its war...nothing pretty about it Soooo, you obect to prosecuting war crimes? I guess if you'd been in charge there'd have been no Nuremberg trials..NICE! How American! Great values! Really because I thought making prisoners of war into lamp shades and starving prisoners of war not on the battle field quit different than torturing for information which by the way the other side will show you no mercy.....don't believe our troops have starved anyone......but yeah war is war and its an ugly business and its not for others to determine whether situation warrants excessive force but for our troops that protect the US......I just find it a dbl standard when the oppositions is praised for excessive force.... Now this I find very stupid...you show me where the US Military condones torturing...furthermore it's been found that just by talking to the prisoners yields better info than WATERBOARDING a man 175 times... I am shocked that ANY American would tarnish our reputations (further) by condoning torture..IT'S WRONG...have any morals at all? BTW the US prosecuted Japanese soldiers and officers after WW2 that tortured our soldiers...including waterboarding which IS torture. How low a life can one be to approve of torture? That takes the cake...I am shocked. (Not really on this board anymore)  |
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And I would call not believing in freedom of press and speech anti-american not not believing that the laws of immigrations should be upheld anti-american........taking away the right to bear arms anti-american You're Pro-Legal Immigrant and you're labeled racist. Pro-Gun rights and you're a supremacist. Support Pro-American folks like Ron Paul and you're a nazi.  |
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Illegals are criminals and Libs do nothing but reward them. Criminals are criminals. Don't prosecute one, prosecute none. |
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AP - Friday, October 22, 2010 3:33:14 PM By RAPHAEL G. SATTER and MICHAEL WEISSENSTEIN "U.S. forces often failed to follow up on credible evidence that Iraqi forces mistreated, tortured and killed their captives in the battle against a violent insurgency, according to accounts contained in what was purportedly the largest leak of secret information in U.S. history. The documents are among nearly 400,000 released Friday by the WikiLeaks website in defiance of Pentagon insistence that the action puts the lives of U.S. troops and their coalition partners at risk. Although the documents appear to be authentic, their origin could not be independently confirmed, and WikiLeaks declined to offer any details about them. The Pentagon has previously declined to confirm the authenticity of WikiLeaks-released records, but it has employed more than 100 U.S. analysts to review what was previously released and has never indicated that any past WikiLeaks releases were inaccurate. The 391,831 documents date from the start of 2004 to Jan. 1, 2010, mostly by low-ranking officers in the field. In terse, dry language, they catalog thousands of battles with insurgents and roadside bomb attacks, along with equipment failures and shootings by civilian contractors. The documents describe a full gamut of a country at war: shootings at military checkpoints, contractors firing on Iraqis and savage acts committed on prisoners using boiling water, metal rods, electric shocks and rubber hoses. A group that counts casualties from the war said the files also document 15,000 previously unreported deaths. The United States went to war in part to end the brutality of Saddam Hussein's regime, but the WikiLeaks material depicts American officers caught in a complicated and chaotic conflict in which they often did little but report to their superiors when they found evidence that their Iraqi allies were committing their own abuses. In some cases, the reports show the U.S. military intervening to protect detainees, but in many others officers did not act on what their troops described as clear evidence of abuse. Allegations of torture and brutality by Shiite-dominated security forces -- mostly against Sunni prisoners -- were widely reported during the most violent years of the war when the rival Islamic sects turned on one another in Baghdad and other cities. The leaked documents provide a ground's eye view of abuses as reported by U.S. military personnel to their superiors, and appear to corroborate much of the past reporting. WikiLeaks said it provided unredacted versions of the reports weeks ahead of time to several news organizations, including the New York Times, Le Monde, The Guardian and Der Spiegel. It gave The Associated Press and several other news organizations access to a searchable, redacted database hours before its general release Friday." More.... http://www.mail.com/Article.aspx/tech/0/APNews/Tech/20101023/U_WikiLeaks?pageid=1 Alls fair in love and war........your killing people abuse charges are just stupid....its war...nothing pretty about it Soooo, you obect to prosecuting war crimes? I guess if you'd been in charge there'd have been no Nuremberg trials..NICE! How American! Great values! Really because I thought making prisoners of war into lamp shades and starving prisoners of war not on the battle field quit different than torturing for information which by the way the other side will show you no mercy.....don't believe our troops have starved anyone......but yeah war is war and its an ugly business and its not for others to determine whether situation warrants excessive force but for our troops that protect the US......I just find it a dbl standard when the oppositions is praised for excessive force.... Now this I find very stupid...you show me where the US Military condones torturing...furthermore it's been found that just by talking to the prisoners yields better info than WATERBOARDING a man 175 times... I am shocked that ANY American would tarnish our reputations (further) by condoning torture..IT'S WRONG...have any morals at all? BTW the US prosecuted Japanese soldiers and officers after WW2 that tortured our soldiers...including waterboarding which IS torture. How low a life can one be to approve of torture? That takes the cake...I am shocked. (Not really on this board anymore) Why because many people on both sides used torture in WW2 AND vietnam but never saw one person from the US brought before trial for war crimes....and u think the CIA DOESN'T USE TORTURE METHODS FOR INFORMATION........... NEVERMIND WASTE OF BREATH....condone no the US does not practice it as long as they don't get caught....its a part of war.....it just is......its not pretty do I like it no.....I couldn't watch it or practice myself but you just go on believing its not a practice used an feel all comfy about it |
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funny the reason the japanese emperor hirohito wasn't charged with war crimes is because america could have been charged to with war crimes the atom bomb use which killed 250,000 innocent civilians in japan.remember the treaty of versailles? also i'd like to add the japanese bombed a naval base on an island that wasn't yet part of the union,so they didn't really attack on american soil and didnt drop atom bombs on los angeles and san francisco
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funny the reason the japanese emperor hirohito wasn't charged with war crimes is because america could have been charged to with war crimes the atom bomb use which killed 250,000 innocent civilians in japan.remember the treaty of versailles? One. Shame on Reagan. Cubans, like Mexicans can change their own country if they aren't satisfied. Two. Now this topic is going deeper into history.
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funny the reason the japanese emperor hirohito wasn't charged with war crimes is because america could have been charged to with war crimes the atom bomb use which killed 250,000 innocent civilians in japan.remember the treaty of versailles? One. Shame on Reagan. Cubans, like Mexicans can change their own country if they aren't satisfied. Two. Now this topic is going deeper into history.
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funny the reason the japanese emperor hirohito wasn't charged with war crimes is because america could have been charged to with war crimes the atom bomb use which killed 250,000 innocent civilians in japan.remember the treaty of versailles? One. Shame on Reagan. Cubans, like Mexicans can change their own country if they aren't satisfied. Two. Now this topic is going deeper into history. No sir, you're completely off topic and I do not appreciate it. 
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funny the reason the japanese emperor hirohito wasn't charged with war crimes is because america could have been charged to with war crimes the atom bomb use which killed 250,000 innocent civilians in japan.remember the treaty of versailles? One. Shame on Reagan. Cubans, like Mexicans can change their own country if they aren't satisfied. Two. Now this topic is going deeper into history. No sir, you're completely off topic and I do not appreciate it. Not off topic when you brought Japan the Nazi's and WW2 into the picture....he just exponded upon it......off topic only when it doesn't suit your agenda? |
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funny the reason the japanese emperor hirohito wasn't charged with war crimes is because america could have been charged to with war crimes the atom bomb use which killed 250,000 innocent civilians in japan.remember the treaty of versailles? One. Shame on Reagan. Cubans, like Mexicans can change their own country if they aren't satisfied. Two. Now this topic is going deeper into history. No sir, you're completely off topic and I do not appreciate it. Not off topic when you brought Japan the Nazi's and WW2 into the picture....he just exponded upon it......off topic only when it doesn't suit your agenda? BS BS BS, It's all about war crimes and the lack of oversight by the DIPPIC administration in conducting these wars and not investigating war crimes.... But pathetic defenses here...I'd say more about how immoral some people are but that's just feeding their only way to win: GET A THREAD LOCKED. KMWHA. |
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