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Edited by
MiddleEarthling
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So sadam didn't kill the kurds with nerve gas? Saddam gassed the Kurds after the Kurds stood with us in the GW1. We promised them support, arms and autonomy to get their help. But after we left we did not keep our word and Saddam killed thousands of them in revenge. Does not justify it but we let it happen. And I can't believe people are still arguing WMD's. CRAZY! Anyway...back to "being greeted as liberators" and "winning their hearts and minds": "The files indicate that 285,000 casualties were recorded, including at least 109,032 violent deaths, although reports suggested some double-counting. Of those, 66,081 were civilians, 23,984 were "enemy," 15,196 were members of the Iraqi security forces, and 3,771 were U.S. and allied service members. Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2010/10/23/20101023wikileaks1023.html#ixzz13F5QoDn1 |
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Edited by
mightymoe
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Sat 10/23/10 08:20 PM
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So sadam didn't kill the kurds with nerve gas? Saddam gassed the Kurds after the Kurds stood with us in the GW1. We promised them support, arms and autonomy to get their help. But after we left we did not keep our word and Saddam killed thousands of them in revenge. Does not justify it but we let it happen. And I can't believe people are still arguing WMD's. CRAZY! Anyway...back to "being greeted as liberators" and "winning their hearts and minds": "The files indicate that 285,000 casualties were recorded, including at least 109,032 violent deaths, although reports suggested some double-counting. Of those, 66,081 were civilians, 23,984 were "enemy," 15,196 were members of the Iraqi security forces, and 3,771 were U.S. and allied service members. Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2010/10/23/20101023wikileaks1023.html#ixzz13F5QoDn1 |
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but hey theres always saudi arabia,who sent them to cause a war so the US could buy their oil to use for the war...just a thought
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I'm FUC**NG sick and tired of you IDIOTS condeming our troops!!!
For 1 you can't approve of water boarding as enhanced interrogation then all of a sudden decide it is torture after the fact! Yes there was a few soldiers that did some stupid things but don't put the rest of our troops in that catagory! The few bad apples were prosicuted for what they did! Untill you FUC**NG go over and have people shooting at you while your defending our country then you need to SHUT THE FU*K UP!!!!! We do what we have to do to keep our brothers alive. And yes we abide by the Geneva convention (rules of war) that have gotten my friends killed because we couldn't act upon our instincts and had to wait till we were fired upon. So when you've been in that situation come talk to me! Untill then all tour BS claims are just hurting those who have lost loved ones!!!!!!!! |
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I'm FUC**NG sick and tired of you IDIOTS condeming our troops!!! For 1 you can't approve of water boarding as enhanced interrogation then all of a sudden decide it is torture after the fact! Yes there was a few soldiers that did some stupid things but don't put the rest of our troops in that catagory! The few bad apples were prosicuted for what they did! Untill you FUC**NG go over and have people shooting at you while your defending our country then you need to SHUT THE FU*K UP!!!!! We do what we have to do to keep our brothers alive. And yes we abide by the Geneva convention (rules of war) that have gotten my friends killed because we couldn't act upon our instincts and had to wait till we were fired upon. So when you've been in that situation come talk to me! Untill then all tour BS claims are just hurting those who have lost loved ones!!!!!!!! 
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I'm FUC**NG sick and tired of you IDIOTS condeming our troops!!! For 1 you can't approve of water boarding as enhanced interrogation then all of a sudden decide it is torture after the fact! Yes there was a few soldiers that did some stupid things but don't put the rest of our troops in that catagory! The few bad apples were prosicuted for what they did! Untill you FUC**NG go over and have people shooting at you while your defending our country then you need to SHUT THE FU*K UP!!!!! We do what we have to do to keep our brothers alive. And yes we abide by the Geneva convention (rules of war) that have gotten my friends killed because we couldn't act upon our instincts and had to wait till we were fired upon. So when you've been in that situation come talk to me! Untill then all tour BS claims are just hurting those who have lost loved ones!!!!!!!! Now here's the truth. Thank you, Sir. |
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I'm FUC**NG sick and tired of you IDIOTS condeming our troops!!! For 1 you can't approve of water boarding as enhanced interrogation then all of a sudden decide it is torture after the fact! Yes there was a few soldiers that did some stupid things but don't put the rest of our troops in that catagory! The few bad apples were prosicuted for what they did! Untill you FUC**NG go over and have people shooting at you while your defending our country then you need to SHUT THE FU*K UP!!!!! We do what we have to do to keep our brothers alive. And yes we abide by the Geneva convention (rules of war) that have gotten my friends killed because we couldn't act upon our instincts and had to wait till we were fired upon. So when you've been in that situation come talk to me! Untill then all tour BS claims are just hurting those who have lost loved ones!!!!!!!! No one disrespected the troops on this thread nor anywhere else I've seen this subject presented. The emphasises are on the leaders who went into a war unprepared and wreckless then held no one accoutable for the crimes committed, then on the military leaders who should have conducted invesitgations on accuastaions of abuses. The first crime was invading a sovernign nation that never attacked us...tho~ the fringe element in this country think Saddam Hussein was in on the 9-11 attacks the truth is he was not. This was an illegal invasion. The Geneva Convention's Rules of Engagement specifically forbids the things reported in the Wikileaks reports. I respect the troops but know from my own service that not all troops act honorably. It's up to the UCMJ and the Geneva Convention to be applied but they weren't. |
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I'm FUC**NG sick and tired of you IDIOTS condeming our troops!!! For 1 you can't approve of water boarding as enhanced interrogation then all of a sudden decide it is torture after the fact! Yes there was a few soldiers that did some stupid things but don't put the rest of our troops in that catagory! The few bad apples were prosicuted for what they did! Untill you FUC**NG go over and have people shooting at you while your defending our country then you need to SHUT THE FU*K UP!!!!! We do what we have to do to keep our brothers alive. And yes we abide by the Geneva convention (rules of war) that have gotten my friends killed because we couldn't act upon our instincts and had to wait till we were fired upon. So when you've been in that situation come talk to me! Untill then all tour BS claims are just hurting those who have lost loved ones!!!!!!!! No one disrespected the troops on this thread nor anywhere else I've seen this subject presented. The emphasises are on the leaders who went into a war unprepared and wreckless then held no one accoutable for the crimes committed, then on the military leaders who should have conducted invesitgations on accuastaions of abuses. The first crime was invading a sovernign nation that never attacked us...tho~ the fringe element in this country think Saddam Hussein was in on the 9-11 attacks the truth is he was not. This was an illegal invasion. The Geneva Convention's Rules of Engagement specifically forbids the things reported in the Wikileaks reports. I respect the troops but know from my own service that not all troops act honorably. It's up to the UCMJ and the Geneva Convention to be applied but they weren't. You posted a pic of the soldier with the detainee on a leash. And that is disrespectful to soldiers because it doesn't depict what is accually going on. And that soldier was dealt with accordingly. You also posted about water boarding, which are enhanced interogation methods not torture as you stated. You know if people like you wouldn't take a few atrocities commited by the very few bad apples it wouldn't be a huge ordeal and maybe the US wouldn't be "hated by other countries" Things happen in war and they may not allways be right but it doesn't need to be plastered all over the media for the world to see. If you believe the wars are illegal then do something about it. You belittle yourself when all you do is call people names, and makes it hard for anyone to take you seriously. |
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