Topic: Can we stop with all the name calling and butchering?
Dragoness's photo
Tue 10/12/10 10:35 PM


Political correctness is for the birds.
agreed... people shouldn't wear their feelings on their sleeves
plus that, it's just another tool to get people to do what they want...
we are american, not african american, mexican american, just american... they alienate themselves by saying that stuff...


Or they add to the melting pot. It depends on your point of view. I could be a German/Irish/Indian American. It is long but it shows the melting pot of America.

TonkaTruck3's photo
Tue 10/12/10 10:42 PM
Sorry, but Oblowme deserves zero respect. And either does any politician who refuses to do whats right for the country, and the people.

Name calling is a great way to express ones views, and you will find that the politicians partake in the very same thing (witness one of Jerry Browns cohorts calling Whitman a "whore").

Lines have been drawn a long time ago. This country is a divided country, and I stand on one side and oppose the other.

Thats just the way it is.

mightymoe's photo
Tue 10/12/10 10:49 PM



Political correctness is for the birds.
agreed... people shouldn't wear their feelings on their sleeves
plus that, it's just another tool to get people to do what they want...
we are american, not african american, mexican american, just american... they alienate themselves by saying that stuff...


Or they add to the melting pot. It depends on your point of view. I could be a German/Irish/Indian American. It is long but it shows the melting pot of America.


whats wrong with American, of German - Irish - Indian decent?

mightymoe's photo
Tue 10/12/10 10:50 PM

Sorry, but Oblowme deserves zero respect. And either does any politician who refuses to do whats right for the country, and the people.

Name calling is a great way to express ones views, and you will find that the politicians partake in the very same thing (witness one of Jerry Browns cohorts calling Whitman a "whore").

Lines have been drawn a long time ago. This country is a divided country, and I stand on one side and oppose the other.

Thats just the way it is.


i agree... the democrats and repubs divided this country a long time ago... obama talked all this crap about fixing it, and he has just made it worse

Dragoness's photo
Tue 10/12/10 11:07 PM




Political correctness is for the birds.
agreed... people shouldn't wear their feelings on their sleeves
plus that, it's just another tool to get people to do what they want...
we are american, not african american, mexican american, just american... they alienate themselves by saying that stuff...


Or they add to the melting pot. It depends on your point of view. I could be a German/Irish/Indian American. It is long but it shows the melting pot of America.


whats wrong with American, of German - Irish - Indian decent?


Whats wrong with the way I want to say it?

mightymoe's photo
Tue 10/12/10 11:18 PM





Political correctness is for the birds.
agreed... people shouldn't wear their feelings on their sleeves
plus that, it's just another tool to get people to do what they want...
we are american, not african american, mexican american, just american... they alienate themselves by saying that stuff...


Or they add to the melting pot. It depends on your point of view. I could be a German/Irish/Indian American. It is long but it shows the melting pot of America.


whats wrong with American, of German - Irish - Indian decent?


Whats wrong with the way I want to say it?
like i already said, it alienates yourself... you say you don't want to have racism, but by saying it that way your implying your lastly American... I am of Finnish and French decent, but i am American... why would i want to be anything else? if you feel the need to separate yourself, you are feeding the problem. people are just to sensitive these days, it makes no sense to proud of something your not. you grew up here, not in Germany. you went to school here, not in Ireland... America is what made you what you are today, not Germany, Ireland or the Indians.

boredinaz06's photo
Tue 10/12/10 11:20 PM





I have no ill will toward Dragoness or anyone else, in fact I have agreed with Dragoness once or twice, but however misguided her politics is (in my opinion) when she has been right on something she's been right and I will always acknowledge that. As for elected officials, I have very little respect for most of them. Much in the same way I call McCain McLame I will continue to call Obama; Hussein the obamanable simply because I do not like them. as folks on here who have a distaste for Fox News will continue to call it Faux news. I have thick skin and it doesn't bother since its only an opinion. I've made no bones about my absolute contempt for the left and that will not stop. As long as I do not attack anyone on here personally there is no harm no foul. I just wouldn't worry about this too much because I believe that politics aside we would probably all get along pretty good. I have suggested to the mods to do away with this and the religion threads to stop what you're talking about but they chose to leave them up. Just my .02 on the subject.


Yea but do you know this is the only board I have ever been on that doesn't have a proper name rule?

You can still show your dislike for someone or something without an insult or name butchering. It is offensive to other memebers in the community plain and simple.


I disagree, politics is like a sporting event where everyone has their favorites. Would you go on ESPN and tell sports fans not to call the Dallas Cowboys the Phallus Chowboys? C'mon, if anyone gets offended on here because some calls Hussein "O'blowme" or something that is a person who is looking to be offended. People will never see eye to eye on something like politics and there will always be slander and perversion of political names. Its variety and that my friend is a spice of life.

boredinaz06's photo
Tue 10/12/10 11:24 PM






Political correctness is for the birds.
agreed... people shouldn't wear their feelings on their sleeves
plus that, it's just another tool to get people to do what they want...
we are american, not african american, mexican american, just american... they alienate themselves by saying that stuff...


Or they add to the melting pot. It depends on your point of view. I could be a German/Irish/Indian American. It is long but it shows the melting pot of America.


whats wrong with American, of German - Irish - Indian decent?


Whats wrong with the way I want to say it?
like i already said, it alienates yourself... you say you don't want to have racism, but by saying it that way your implying your lastly American... I am of Finnish and French decent, but i am American... why would i want to be anything else? if you feel the need to separate yourself, you are feeding the problem. people are just to sensitive these days, it makes no sense to proud of something your not. you grew up here, not in Germany. you went to school here, not in Ireland... America is what made you what you are today, not Germany, Ireland or the Indians.


If you're born in this country you're an American. If you're born somewhere else and migrate here legally, you're an American. If you want to be hyphenated go go to another country. I'm of Irish, German, English, Norwegian decent and I was also born here so I am an American not *****-American.

no photo
Tue 10/12/10 11:25 PM
Edited by massagetrade on Tue 10/12/10 11:26 PM

I think we should all use proper names when talking about persons or businesses or organizations.

....

You automatically lose the debate or discussion when you make comments like that and frankly sound like a third grader.



I agree.

But...can I call the tea part tea baggers if I agree with some of their politics? Its fun!

Edit: as in fun for the third grader in me.

mightymoe's photo
Tue 10/12/10 11:33 PM






I have no ill will toward Dragoness or anyone else, in fact I have agreed with Dragoness once or twice, but however misguided her politics is (in my opinion) when she has been right on something she's been right and I will always acknowledge that. As for elected officials, I have very little respect for most of them. Much in the same way I call McCain McLame I will continue to call Obama; Hussein the obamanable simply because I do not like them. as folks on here who have a distaste for Fox News will continue to call it Faux news. I have thick skin and it doesn't bother since its only an opinion. I've made no bones about my absolute contempt for the left and that will not stop. As long as I do not attack anyone on here personally there is no harm no foul. I just wouldn't worry about this too much because I believe that politics aside we would probably all get along pretty good. I have suggested to the mods to do away with this and the religion threads to stop what you're talking about but they chose to leave them up. Just my .02 on the subject.


Yea but do you know this is the only board I have ever been on that doesn't have a proper name rule?

You can still show your dislike for someone or something without an insult or name butchering. It is offensive to other memebers in the community plain and simple.


I disagree, politics is like a sporting event where everyone has their favorites. Would you go on ESPN and tell sports fans not to call the Dallas Cowboys the Phallus Chowboys? C'mon, if anyone gets offended on here because some calls Hussein "O'blowme" or something that is a person who is looking to be offended. People will never see eye to eye on something like politics and there will always be slander and perversion of political names. Its variety and that my friend is a spice of life.


thats what i was saying about wearing their feelings on their sleeves... if it pisses you off, or makes you cry, then go to the game posts and play there. everyone has their own opinion on everything and the sooner you quit worrying whether everyone agrees with you the better. some people will agree, some won't...doesn't mean anyone is less of a person for their opinions. i personally respect those that don't agree with me, it shows they have independent thought and willing to prove their point. thats what political forums do...

mightymoe's photo
Tue 10/12/10 11:35 PM


I think we should all use proper names when talking about persons or businesses or organizations.

....

You automatically lose the debate or discussion when you make comments like that and frankly sound like a third grader.



I agree.

But...can I call the tea part tea baggers if I agree with some of their politics? Its fun!

Edit: as in fun for the third grader in me.



call them whatever you want, if they cry, they cry...personally, i don't understand why anyone would care one way or the other...personal pride, i guess...

msharmony's photo
Wed 10/13/10 01:54 AM

I have been thinking a lot about this. I know I have a couple of times, and if I have offended anyone I am truly sorry.

I think we should all use proper names when talking about persons or businesses or organizations.

I have been giving a lot of thought to this and it really disrespects the people you are talking to. I am referring to things like Oblowme, Obummer, Obama Bin Laden, Pox News, Dippic, Chimpy, Tea Baggers, Tea Bagging etc. I think you get the picture.

You automatically lose the debate or discussion when you make comments like that and frankly sound like a third grader. I know I am guilty as well and have used the Obama Bin Laden one a couple times.

A lot of those comments are meant to degrade and insult and hurt members and it's just not right. We can disagree and do it civilly.

Again I am sorry to anyone I might have offended especially Dragoness, MSharmony, Kerry O, Atlantis and others.

For the good of the community lets all try to treat each other with more respect.



thank you, I try not to offend either, if I have I apologize

we can all work harder,,,

msharmony's photo
Wed 10/13/10 01:59 AM






I have no ill will toward Dragoness or anyone else, in fact I have agreed with Dragoness once or twice, but however misguided her politics is (in my opinion) when she has been right on something she's been right and I will always acknowledge that. As for elected officials, I have very little respect for most of them. Much in the same way I call McCain McLame I will continue to call Obama; Hussein the obamanable simply because I do not like them. as folks on here who have a distaste for Fox News will continue to call it Faux news. I have thick skin and it doesn't bother since its only an opinion. I've made no bones about my absolute contempt for the left and that will not stop. As long as I do not attack anyone on here personally there is no harm no foul. I just wouldn't worry about this too much because I believe that politics aside we would probably all get along pretty good. I have suggested to the mods to do away with this and the religion threads to stop what you're talking about but they chose to leave them up. Just my .02 on the subject.


How did I get to be the center of this. I am really not bothered at all by all the names used for Obama. It actually shows the mind of the name caller which doesn't harm me at all.

My politics are not even known on here. I play devils advocate many times and go to the extreme on others to make a point. People still don't know me.

I like to make others think. Sometimes you have to be extreme to make people look at the situation in a different light or see it from a different perspective.

And those who cannot do the above make me the target of their issues.

I too have crossed the line on these threads. I have apologized when someone has told me that I hurt their feelings. I get into trouble just like everyone else. I just don't pout about it. Or make a scene. No one knows when I get into trouble. It isn't anyone's business.

I think it is big of Lpdon to even post this thread.



I also haven't seen you cross the line to bad, you seem like a pretty classy lady to me, well most of the time. bigsmile So does MSharmony and I feel bad for the things I have said to her as well, band even tried to apologize to her via email.




is that what the nudge was? oops oops


I thought you had most likely hit me by mistake


you dont HAVE to apologize to me as this is a forum for people to express themself and we all have our own way,, BUT

I do appreciate it when anyone is big enough to aknowledge possible offense to others , it gets rough to tell the personal from the objective sometimes and I think we will all cross that line in 're acting' to posts, but as adults, we CAN all do better

thanx

no photo
Wed 10/13/10 07:41 AM

Sorry, but Oblowme deserves zero respect. And either does any politician who refuses to do whats right for the country, and the people.

Name calling is a great way to express ones views, and you will find that the politicians partake in the very same thing (witness one of Jerry Browns cohorts calling Whitman a "whore").

Lines have been drawn a long time ago. This country is a divided country, and I stand on one side and oppose the other.

Thats just the way it is.


Name calling is a good way to express views? It's also a good way to show immaturity. But, if you're good with that, go for it.

With attitudes like that, the country will stay divided no matter what happens.

AGoodGuy1026's photo
Wed 10/13/10 07:52 AM

I have been thinking a lot about this. I know I have a couple of times, and if I have offended anyone I am truly sorry.

I think we should all use proper names when talking about persons or businesses or organizations.

I have been giving a lot of thought to this and it really disrespects the people you are talking to. I am referring to things like Oblowme, Obummer, Obama Bin Laden, Pox News, Dippic, Chimpy, Tea Baggers, Tea Bagging etc. I think you get the picture.

You automatically lose the debate or discussion when you make comments like that and frankly sound like a third grader. I know I am guilty as well and have used the Obama Bin Laden one a couple times.

A lot of those comments are meant to degrade and insult and hurt members and it's just not right. We can disagree and do it civilly.

Again I am sorry to anyone I might have offended especially Dragoness, MSharmony, Kerry O, Atlantis and others.

For the good of the community lets all try to treat each other with more respect.


well said, I agree. A certain level of civility should be maintained... no matter what your beliefs...

$.02 drinker

MiddleEarthling's photo
Wed 10/13/10 08:32 AM
Respect has to be earned but rather than debate the issues and have a thick skin (to defend their racisms and the devaluing of American values) some resort to feigning insult. When that's all they have left it's very clear who deserves a formal name and who deserves public ridicule.

Grow up already.





willing2's photo
Wed 10/13/10 08:55 AM

Political correctness is for the birds.

PC is BS.
There are those who believe Politicians aren't playing them.
Personal attacks and denial are the only defense they have.

Seakolony's photo
Wed 10/13/10 09:04 AM
Everyone should respect each others opinions, but I agree PC is ridiculous........I do not see why everyone can not respect everyone else's opinions and still maintain their beliefs.....isnt that waht the US is supposed to be.......no matter how bad culture shock to another's beliefs that we should respect them despite that fact we may or may not understand the motivations behind the theories or beliefs of others..........

KerryO's photo
Wed 10/13/10 04:33 PM

I have been thinking a lot about this. I know I have a couple of times, and if I have offended anyone I am truly sorry.

I think we should all use proper names when talking about persons or businesses or organizations.

I have been giving a lot of thought to this and it really disrespects the people you are talking to. I am referring to things like Oblowme, Obummer, Obama Bin Laden, Pox News, Dippic, Chimpy, Tea Baggers, Tea Bagging etc. I think you get the picture.

You automatically lose the debate or discussion when you make comments like that and frankly sound like a third grader. I know I am guilty as well and have used the Obama Bin Laden one a couple times.

A lot of those comments are meant to degrade and insult and hurt members and it's just not right. We can disagree and do it civilly.

Again I am sorry to anyone I might have offended especially Dragoness, MSharmony, Kerry O, Atlantis and others.

For the good of the community lets all try to treat each other with more respect.


Truth be told, you're not a bad sort-- I've had far more agressive leisure debate partners over the last 20 years of discussing politics on the Internet. The nature of the beast seems more aptly described as triage surgery in a war zone. A lot of the ideas die on the table and it's a messy bidness.

Paradoxically, often the most interesting people are the ones with whom you disagree the most vehemently. And they're often the ones who have the most staying power, as they can take a roundhouse punch with a million dollar smile and land one in their opposite's intellectual solar plexus before their opponents know what hit them.

I'd never run for office myself. LOL, these days you have to some kind of masochist with a post-grad degree in narcissism to get anywhere.



-Kerry O.

Dragoness's photo
Wed 10/13/10 04:41 PM






Political correctness is for the birds.
agreed... people shouldn't wear their feelings on their sleeves
plus that, it's just another tool to get people to do what they want...
we are american, not african american, mexican american, just american... they alienate themselves by saying that stuff...


Or they add to the melting pot. It depends on your point of view. I could be a German/Irish/Indian American. It is long but it shows the melting pot of America.


whats wrong with American, of German - Irish - Indian decent?


Whats wrong with the way I want to say it?
like i already said, it alienates yourself... you say you don't want to have racism, but by saying it that way your implying your lastly American... I am of Finnish and French decent, but i am American... why would i want to be anything else? if you feel the need to separate yourself, you are feeding the problem. people are just to sensitive these days, it makes no sense to proud of something your not. you grew up here, not in Germany. you went to school here, not in Ireland... America is what made you what you are today, not Germany, Ireland or the Indians.


It doesn't alienate me..it actually brings me into many groups along with being an American.

I think it adds to my communities not diminishes them.