sorry Cowboy...but it was the disciples that "literally" followed Jesus around...the apostles were messengers as in missionaries that "literally" follow the teachings of Jesus the same as his followers are required to do ...

perhaps I should start a bible class for you

Perhaps you should read a dictionary and stop spreading false testimony about other's words.

Start with the word "literal"....

jeez...another one that's not paying attention....look Peter_Pan...we were talking about "literally" not "literal" ...

Really? I thought we were talking about you lying and not understanding the root of "literally"....

nope I was talking about Christians perhaps like yourself that praise other christians for giving false testimony instead of correcting them

There you go lying again... So what were you talking about really?
Was it "literally" or false testimony? Get your lies in order and then go buy a pocket dictionary, cause you are one sorry debater and a piss-poor liar.

Peter_Pan..what I'm saying is when a Christian gives false testimony other christians will remain silent ....and amazingly when a non-believer correct the christian's false testimony is when a Christian pops up to speak against the non-believer

unless you also believe that no babies drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark ....not one christian said anything to correct this

Just appologise to the forum for lying about Cowboy's words, face it, you are busted being a hypocrite and a liar. C'mon, ask Cowboy for forgiveness and stop denying the facts that are staring you in the face.

I can't apologize for Cowboy giving false testimony..but I will apologize to the forum for posting something that cause you to start flaming

Can't or won't? Because you certainly did give false testimony.


LOL, if I'm flaming then so are you. If you think I'm flaming then good, cause that is exactly what you do to others.

Now just say these few words... "I funches, am sorry for lying about Cowboy's words on page 17"

I funches, am sorry for Peter_Pan flaming ....please forgive me forum

if you cut peter_pan ..do he not bleed
if you are peter-pan would you not flame

funches, you are still giving false testimony, this is why not one person will respect you, nor debate with you.

Now just admit your error and get back on your merry-go-round. Wait, this is your merry-go-round, isn't it...

Peter_Pan...if you admit that you are a flamer...then perhaps I will admit that you are.....but I do have to admit that you are proving the point of this thread

Wait, the point of this thread is funches is a hypocrite and a liar???

if funches was a Christian then yes.....

How are Christians hypocrites? A hypocrite is someone that tells someone such and such actions is horrible and you're going to burn in hell for doing as such, when Christians will tell you we ALL fall short of the glory of God. No one is greater then any other man. We are all equal and fail our father everyday, NONE of us deserve heaven. But yet God offers it to us, it is in our reach. All one has to do is reach out and grab the opportunity. Again, how are Christians hypocrites when we are ALL sinners and fall short of God's glory?

not all christians are hypocrites I was only responding to Peter the Pan...and not all Christians are liars..I simply called you one because you were either giving false testimony

you were claiming that God never torture/kill/murder anyone when the bible is filled with such incidents ...

He does none of that, you say were as past tense. I still will defend that our father does none of that.

Our father never tortures anyone.
We kill ourselves in a sense through our actions, and murdering is an act of unjustified killing.

Our father himself does NOT torture us nor does he tempt us. He allows Satan to tempt us eg., ying and yang. You know that saying "you never know what you got till it's gone". That relates here very well. If we had no pain in life, no anything negative we wouldn't appreciate the good things. We would take them for granted. So our father allows bad things to happen, thus making us grow closer to the good things that happen and desire more of the good things. This will make it to where we won't take the good things for granted for we know how it was without them.

God and Satan not only teamed up and tried to tempt JOB but also showed their contempt for JOB by killing his entire family and causing him torment ...

that type of defense is called false testimony...it's clearly in the bible that God kills and threatens to kill...you claiming that he doesn't is what I mean by you lying about what's written in the bible

let's see if another Christian post and back up what you say ....can I get a witness?