Is The Rapture the way that God will rid the Earth of Christians and therefore Christianity ...when The Rapture takes place God supposedly will kill/murder all the christians on the planet and take them off the planet thereby ending the religion ...there can be no dispute that in the bible everytime God kills/murder a mass amount of people it was because he was displease with them.... this is why the Rapture can be viewed as being a prophecy of doom for believers instead of a blessing

i think the muslims are doing that now

isn't jesus suppose to interupt this with"hey dad hold on there before you all go gettin buck wild,lets talk this over,let me pick who you can take and who can stay,ok just relax a minute before you go doing your wraith thingy"

Doesn't say our father will kill anyone. Give me one verse that says our father "kills" or "murders" someone. The ONLY way our father kills anyone is at judgement, and that death is from not having received the gift of eternal life.

And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died. (Exodus 12:29-30 NLT)

It never ceases to amaze me how Christians are either completely ignorant of the doctrine they worship, or they are in total denial of what it actually claims.

They like to pretend that God is different from what these myths actually state. Yet they claim to be supporting these myths as the "Word of God".

It's truly amazing.

i'm almost thinking that maybe lucifer was trying to save people from God....

If u understand that it was the Eygptians who's 1st borns were killed.

The 1st born in these society were the heirs to the throne or the blessings and Yahweh took them for keeping the Isrealites in bondage.

Then we see them leaving egypt. We also see in the Holy Days that Feast of Unleavened Bread being commanded for the Israelites to take a good look at themselves.

Many places Eygpt is refered to as sin.. so it is also the coming out of sin that Yahweh had done exactly as he told Abraham would happen on the very day.

The death Angel or when Passover is remembered is never called a Holy Day because of all the death even if it was to Egypt.. But its the day after is Holy when Yahweh delivered on his promice to Abraham Shalom...Miles

First of all this is from old testament, in those days people were judged on earth for their sins. The only reward for sin is death. And we are speaking of the rapture which is yet to come.
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Exodus 12:12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.
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As you can see it was from a judgement of their wrong doings. God didn't just do this out of spite. And also, sins people committed in the time before Jesus walked the earth were passed down generation to generation. As in if i was to have sinned, that sin would carry on to my children and so forth. And again, the only reward for sin is death and here you can see it was their judgement to be killed for their wrong doings.

so you were wrong....

That's your own personal theory. That doesn't come from the Bible. According to the Bible God had men judging each other. Therefore you wouldn't necessarily be judged for your sins but rather you could be killed by any mortal man who simply judged you to be a sinner, whether you were truly a sinner or not.

So your theory simply doesn't wash, IMHO.

The only entity who can judge a person for their sins would be God. The very fact that this fable has God telling mortal men to judge each other flies in the very face of what it supposedly stands for. In fact, this is a very powerful RED FLAG that reveals to us that these are merely the writings of mortal men who knew there is no judgmental God to enforce these laws. That's precisely why they had their readers enforcing their writings and executing the so-called "sinners" instead.

No genuinely all-wise all-powerful God would ever do anything so ridiculous. There would be no need to. God could take care of this himself with no problem at all and thus guaranteed that only the true sinners were smitten.

In short, if this if your version of this mythology then I reject your views twice over. First, because there's nowhere in the Bible where your theory is backed up. And secondly, because it makes no sense anyway.

You have created your own religion, just like all the other religious that were created from this original mythology.

Now we have Judaism, Islam, Catholicism, Protestantism, and Cowboyism.

But don't feel too special, this is actually a common behavior of many "Protestants". This is the very nature of Protestantism. Make up your own version of the religion and declare yourself to be the Paper Pope of that version.

This is precisely why Protestantism is utterly meaningless. No two Paper Popes can agree on anything.

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No genuinely all-wise all-powerful God would ever do anything so ridiculous. There would be no need to. God could take care of this himself with no problem at all and thus guaranteed that only the true sinners were smitten.
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I don't personally know why God did it this way for no one knows God's plan. But in my eyes it seems logical. Was easier and more sufficiant for the low population of people on the earth. If someone as you say just stoned someone by misjudging them, they have their reward lol, nuff said.

The Rapture is a prophecy of doom to unbelievers. Believers will be taken to Heaven when Christ returns. Those left behind will suffer immense disasters on Earth.

No Christians will me killed/murdered.

Right on, Cowboy!

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In short, if this if your version of this mythology then I reject your views twice over. First, because there's nowhere in the Bible where your theory is backed up. And secondly, because it makes no sense anyway.
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The bible completely supports what i say. The law of the old testament says hand for a hand eye for an eye. Sinners were told to be stoned to death. Jesus came and said "I come not to change the law but to fulfil it*not exact words, but i will look up the verse if needed* And in the new law Jesus gave us, Jesus is the judge of our souls now and Jesus tells us not to judge others for we will be judged with the same measure.

Well, he's trying to wiggle out of being wrong by claiming: "And also, sins people committed in the time before Jesus walked the earth were passed down generation to generation."

But that has CHANGE now.

And this comes from a religious myth that claims that God is unchanging and is the same today, tomorrow, and yesterday?

Cowboy's God violates this condition of being an unchanging God. He CHANGES EVERYTHING all the time.

First God tells men to judge each other and he also demands that the sins of one many automatically follow his children around.

Then this God tells man. NEVER MIND I've changed the way I do things! Now I want to make it so that every man sins only for himself and just have one person in charge of all the judging.

What truly amazes me is that Cowboy can clearly see that the Old Testament is completely incompatible with the teachings of Jesus. Or better stated, the teachings of Jesus are totally opposite to what was taught in the Old Testament fables.

From this observation I recognize that Jesus could not have been the son of that fictitious God, but instead he must have been a mortal man who simply recognized how utterly stupid that fable was and tried to teach better morals.

However, Cowboy takes the very same observation and simply says, "Well the unchanging God of the Old Testament must have dramatically CHANGED".

Two different people observing the same FACTS: (i.e. the teachings of Jesus are completely inharmonious and incompatible with the teachings of the Old Testament).

Yet arriving at two entirely different conclusions.

My conclusion is that Jesus was obviously not a continuation of that Old Fabled God.

Cowboy's conclusion is that the unchanging God of the Old Testament had a MAJOR change of MIND and HEART.

So which conclusion makes more sense to you Moe?

You know what I find so interesting? For the most part, it is the same group of "nonbelievers" posting questions and thoughts on Christianity and its principles, in an attempt to "dissuade" us believers from our faith or "prove us wrong".

I wonder why you "nonbelivers" make this your goal. Perhaps it is because, deep down under the surface, you are all seeking to learn the truth about God because something in your lives is lacking. Because you are curious about Him and wonder why we can believe something that seems so impossible.

Ultimately, I think it's because you're struggling with things in your personal life and are seeking guidance and truth. My heart goes out to you all! How difficult it must be to be worried about your impending futures and so much more afraid to even admit it! I will pray for your guidance and understanding of God's truth and not the world's skewed perception of truth!

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Cowboy's God violates this condition of being an unchanging God. He CHANGES EVERYTHING all the time
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Nothing "changed". Jesus didn't come to change anything, Jesus fulfilled what we call the old testament and gave us a new testament. Nothing "changed" in it's exact sense, but two separate sets of laws.
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First God tells men to judge each other and he also demands that the sins of one many automatically follow his children around
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It no longer follows to the child anymore for it has been forgiven and therefore there is nothing to continue on to the child. In the old testament times if that person had given offerings and had been forgiven for that sin it would not carry on to the child for it would have been forgiven. But if that person didn't seek forgiveness it would carry on. That no longer applies for all our sins are forgiven when we accept Jesus as lord and savior. Cause once we do that, we repent from such actions. And yes we'll make mistakes from time to time, but Jesus is there to forgive us, thus again nothing to go to the next generation for the sin has been forgiven.

Yes they do this because as the bible tells us the flesh is sinful. This world is nothing more then a battlefield between good and evil, our father and Satan. So if they have not accepted Jesus as lord and savior our father is not in them, so therefore the only one instructing them is satan........ our flesh. And Satan will continue to try to make controversy for if we all united he would have then lost.

It doesn't support what you SAY.

You said, "First of all this is from old testament, in those days people were judged on earth for their sins."

But according to the Bible they aren't being judged for their sins, they are being judged by other mortal men who were told to judge people for being sinners.

That's a big difference.

I realize that you don't see it. You probably think they are saying the same things, but they aren't. You are saying that men are being judged for their sins. But the bible simply instructs men to stone sinners to death. That is nowhere NEAR the same thing.

You just assume that it's the same because you accept it as 'TRUTH'.

But the fact of the matter is that mortal men could not possibly judge people for their sins in a way that would be totally righteous and perfect in judgment. Therefore the Bible does not support your claim that men were being judged for their sins. All it supports is that the men who wrote the Bible told men to judge each other.

You can't see these contradictions because you are locked into the idea of believing that the Bible is the "Word of God". You can't see beyond that idea because you refuse to even remotely consider that these stories might not be divine.

Therefore, you are probably thinking that if God told men to judge each other then these men would judge fairly and accurately, or some such nonsense.

What I'm saying is that mortal men clearly could not possibly judge each other to be sinners in a fair and just way. So the Bible does not imply that men were being judged for their sin, but rather that they were simply being judged by other men to be sinners.

I realize that this is probably beyond your ability to grasp. But the fact is that the Bible does not support your conclusions. Your "conclusions" are nothing more than a completely unquestioned faith that the authors of the Old Testament spoke for God. You've made your "conclusion" long before you even bother to think about what's these ancient writings actually have people doing to each other.

So, no, IMHO the Bible doesn't support your conclusions at all.