the naysayers will still say NAY,,, and I support his indirect or direct decision not to speak about his personal faith to appease them


but its nice to hear him endorse his preference for being humble and following JC

Wed, Sep. 29 2010 06:37 AM EDT
By Audrey Barrick|Christian Post Reporter

Obama Speaks of His Christian Faith, Jesus Christ


President Barack Obama was forced to open up about his Christian faith on Tuesday when an Albuquerque woman asked him "Why are you a Christian?"


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He responded, "I'm a Christian by choice."

It was a "hot topic question," the woman recognized during a "backyard" conversation on the economy. Obama was meeting with families in the front yard of the home of Andy and Etta Cavalier in Albuquerque, N.M., when the question was posed.

Providing a brief account of how he grew up, Obama said his family members "weren't folks who went to church every week."

"My mother was one of the most spiritual people I knew, but she didn't raise me in the church," he said.

Obama became a Christian later in life.

What drew him to Christianity was "the precepts of Jesus Christ" which spoke to him in terms of the kind of life he would want to lead, he explained.

Those precepts include "being my brothers' and sisters' keeper; treating others as they would treat me."

He continued, "I think also understanding that ... Jesus Christ dying for my sins spoke to the humility that we all have to have as human beings – that we're sinful and we're flawed and we make mistakes; we achieve salvation through the grace of God."

In terms of how he's living out his Christian faith, he said he strives and prays to "see God in other people" and "help them find their own grace."

"I think my public service is part of that effort to express my Christian faith," he said.

Only about a third of Americans believe the president is a Christian, a Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life revealed last month. Last year, nearly half held that perception. Meanwhile, some (18 percent) say Obama is a Muslim and the rest do not know his religion.

Following the release of the poll, the White House and several pastors who advise Obama defended the president's faith and assured the public that he is committed to Christ. Given the increasing misperception, Longwood, Fla., Pastor Joel C. Hunter recommended that the White House be more public about what Obama does to be an active Christian.

A few weeks later, Obama and his family made a rare appearance at church for Sunday worship. They attended St. John's Church near the White House.

After responding to the question about his faith on Tuesday, Obama added that as the president of the United States, he also deeply believes that "part of the bedrock strength of this country is that it embraces people of many faiths and of no faith."

"Their own path to grace is one that we have to revere and respect as much as our own and that's part of what makes this country what it is," he highlighted.

"We were founded on freedom ... the freedom of religion. That's how this country got started. That's why people came here. We have to constantly, I think, reaffirm that tradition even when it sometimes makes us uncomfortable."

Briefly addressing another "hot topic question" asked by the same woman, Obama reiterated his stance on abortion.

Abortion should be "safe, legal and rare," he said.

The decision should be made by the families and the women involved and not the government, he said.

Regarding late-term abortions, he noted that there are "a whole host of laws on the books" in which the interests shift after a certain period so that there are some restrictions, and "appropriately so."

Obama is visiting four states Tuesday and Wednesday to talk about the economy, health care and other topics. New Mexico was his first stop.



http://www.christianpost.com/article/20100929/obama-speaks-of-his-christian-faith-jesus-christ/

Wed, Sep. 29 2010 06:37 AM EDT
By Audrey Barrick|Christian Post Reporter

Obama Speaks of His Christian Faith, Jesus Christ


President Barack Obama was forced to open up about his Christian faith on Tuesday when an Albuquerque woman asked him "Why are you a Christian?"


Evangelicals: Obama Not a Muslim
Obamas Join Worship Service at Episcopal Church
He responded, "I'm a Christian by choice."

It was a "hot topic question," the woman recognized during a "backyard" conversation on the economy. Obama was meeting with families in the front yard of the home of Andy and Etta Cavalier in Albuquerque, N.M., when the question was posed.

Providing a brief account of how he grew up, Obama said his family members "weren't folks who went to church every week."

"My mother was one of the most spiritual people I knew, but she didn't raise me in the church," he said.

Obama became a Christian later in life.

What drew him to Christianity was "the precepts of Jesus Christ" which spoke to him in terms of the kind of life he would want to lead, he explained.

Those precepts include "being my brothers' and sisters' keeper; treating others as they would treat me."

He continued, "I think also understanding that ... Jesus Christ dying for my sins spoke to the humility that we all have to have as human beings – that we're sinful and we're flawed and we make mistakes; we achieve salvation through the grace of God."

In terms of how he's living out his Christian faith, he said he strives and prays to "see God in other people" and "help them find their own grace."

"I think my public service is part of that effort to express my Christian faith," he said.

Only about a third of Americans believe the president is a Christian, a Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life revealed last month. Last year, nearly half held that perception. Meanwhile, some (18 percent) say Obama is a Muslim and the rest do not know his religion.

Following the release of the poll, the White House and several pastors who advise Obama defended the president's faith and assured the public that he is committed to Christ. Given the increasing misperception, Longwood, Fla., Pastor Joel C. Hunter recommended that the White House be more public about what Obama does to be an active Christian.

A few weeks later, Obama and his family made a rare appearance at church for Sunday worship. They attended St. John's Church near the White House.

After responding to the question about his faith on Tuesday, Obama added that as the president of the United States, he also deeply believes that "part of the bedrock strength of this country is that it embraces people of many faiths and of no faith."

"Their own path to grace is one that we have to revere and respect as much as our own and that's part of what makes this country what it is," he highlighted.

"We were founded on freedom ... the freedom of religion. That's how this country got started. That's why people came here. We have to constantly, I think, reaffirm that tradition even when it sometimes makes us uncomfortable."

Briefly addressing another "hot topic question" asked by the same woman, Obama reiterated his stance on abortion.

Abortion should be "safe, legal and rare," he said.

The decision should be made by the families and the women involved and not the government, he said.

Regarding late-term abortions, he noted that there are "a whole host of laws on the books" in which the interests shift after a certain period so that there are some restrictions, and "appropriately so."

Obama is visiting four states Tuesday and Wednesday to talk about the economy, health care and other topics. New Mexico was his first stop.



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I am a real Christian because I know Jesus Christ is real and his word is true and he is the son of God.I am a Christian because I know every good thing comes from God.I know there is no other Gods.Christianity defines who I am and I live my life by the teachings of the bible.

This is a huge problem with this godforsaken religion. The people who believe they are "Christians" do nothing but pass judgments on other "Christians" calling them liars and refusing to accept their word that they are "Christians".

The whole religion is nothing more than people using Jesus as an excuse to judge other people.

It's bad enough that they exhibit such hatred toward non-Christians, but when they go so far as to calling other "Christians" liars for claiming to be "Christian" then it gets really scary.

All you've done here is prove my point: Even if the whole world was "converted" to "Christianity" that wouldn't change a thing. All you'd end up with is a bunch of Christians calling each other liars and refusing to acknowledge that they are "truly" Christians.

I'm totally fed up with this hateful bigoted religion. All it does is cause people to point fingers at each other and call each other liars in the name of Jesus.

It's disgusting.

If a person can't even be accepted as being a "Christian" when they say they are, then the religion is totally worthless. Not only is everyone expected to become a "Christian" but they are also expected to live up to all the bigots who have already laid claim to the title and have already decided what brand of hatred Jesus represents.

It's the ultimate hatred preached in the name of Jesus.

A truly sad religion. Even our President can't even be a Christian without being accused of being a heathen.

This just shows how dangerous this religion truly is.

Again, you're pointing fingers at the wrong being. It's not the belief itself that teaches people to be like this. It actually teaches likewise, Jesus told us NOT to judge anyone. So these people doing the judging is in the wrong in the first place, and again does not reflect Christianity.

But that's the problem with the religion. Over 99.9% of what exists out there in the name of "Christianity" has nothing to do with Jesus.

I'll be the first to agree with that.

This is why you should distance yourself from that ungodly label.

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Also Jesus never "told" us anything. On the contrary, all we have is a bunch of undependable and confused "hearsay" of very questionable authors who wrote about what they think that Jesus might have said. They also added highly questionable rumors and fables surrounding the man's life, and death.

Those rumors need to be taken with a grain of salt.

I hold no label. I'm a person following our father.

Call it what you will. All I see is a man who's determined to take every verse and passage of the Bible and interpret it in the most hateful way possible just to support a particular conclusion and perpetuate religious bigotry throughout the world.

The God who hates people for not believing the rumors of a bunch of male-chauvinistic Hebrews?

If such an entity did exist he wouldn't be worth worshiping.

So then alot of history doesn't hold power? For alot of our knowledge of history is from first person perspective documents. Same as the bible, sort of a diary of these men if you will.

And you continuously claim the verses are hateful, but yet you still haven't provided proof for such accusations.

The New Testament does not qualify as an accurate account of "history". On the contrary, it was written by only a very few men. It represent nothing more than undependable rumors. In fact, there is no external historical accounts to back up the actual claims of supernatural events.

For example, Matthew writes of a voice from heaven speaking to a crowed saying, "This is my beloved in son in whom I'm well pleased". Yet there is no historical account of any such event recorded anywhere else in normal historical accounts.

This same author also claims that a multitude of saints rose from graves that were opened and went into the holy city and showed themselves to the people there. Yet again, there is absolutely no historical evidence to indicate that any such thing ever happened.

So to call these fables "history" is to misrepresent them.



I have repeatedly given all the proof that should be required.

Any God who condemns people for not believing in these totally absurd and unsubstantiated rumors would clearly be a hateful entity.

Such condemnation would be totally unjustified, unrighteous, and certainly ungodly.

Thus these stories represent a hateful God who hates everyone and anyone who refuses to believe these totally undependable myths.

That's a story of a hateful God. There's no getting around it.

It's crystal clear on its own.

The God you preach of is a hateful God.

How is that unjustified? Justice is following the law. And Jesus specifically states one law saying "Deny me before man and i will deny you before the father". So therefore with that established it is justifiable for this to be done.

thats pretty kool....hearing him talk about his faith and beliefs and he did so without preaching or being overbearing with it...basically this is what i believe and why i believe...this is my choice ..

also liked how he reminded the woman as well as everyone about freedom of religion.

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Thus these stories represent a hateful God who hates everyone and anyone who refuses to believe these totally undependable
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How is it undependable? ALL history facts are only facts cause people accept it as such. And again, if history was to accept this to be fact they would be supporting a specific religious belief, and history remains non religious as to not cause troubles with people of other beliefs. History remains secular as to not take favors to one side or the other and not discriminate towards one belief or other.