and just as faith "educated hope" is still for the hopeless


also hope and faith are not emotions....where do you get this stuff from?

Emotions = Feelings
Faith = you FEEL so and so will happen.

Thus faith is an emotion. It's a feeling. Also you can say "He is faithful that this deal will go through". Thus another example of it being an emotion.

Emotions = Feelings
Faith = you FEEL so and so will happen.
Thus faith is an emotion. It's a feeling. Also you can say "He is faithful that this deal will go through". Thus another example of it being an emotion.

Too funny. That would be "He has faith that this deal will go through"

Maybe if they could read and comprehend well enough then they'd not be all messed on the bible thing.

faith may be used as a reason why emotions were sparked...but faith is not an emotion....if you have a feeling of faith it's more likely just a case of gas

also in the example you used...what happens to faith if the person didn't get the job...did it mean they lacked faith

No, just means he had faith in the wrong thing. Again, faith in itself has nothing to do with God or anything. Faith is purely strong educated hope.

there is really no need to defend ignorance, as it is only a lack of knowledge about something


since I am sure noone here knows EVERYTHING there is to know about EVERYTHING,, I stand by my opinion that a limited thirty question test on the whole subject of RELIGION,, is at best, only an indication of how well people know those things the authors of the test know,,,not an indication of general knowledge of what one is specifically worshipping,,



the questions cited were about religious HISTORY in large,, which is evidence and facts regarding historical FIGURES, and few of the questions were actually about the bible or what the bible teaches,, so the test is not necessarily an indictment against those who follow religion,,,because the topic is too broad to truly encompas SPECIFIC faiths,,,or SPECIFIC beliefs


I could easily find thirty random questions about politics that politiicans wouldnt know , heck, I watch smarter than a fifth grader and there are plenty of things they know that adults dont know,,,,but that is an indication that the kids are learning and using things that the adults just dont use anymore


I applaud knowledge, but I dont expect anyone to know everything on any subject

religion is not about knowledge it's about faith....and faith can only exist due to lack of knowledge

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you don't need faith to eat...you need food to eat



tomorrow never comes...everytime it tries to come it turns into today



faith do not pay any bills...it requires money to do that



if nothing as you say is set in stone...then wouldn't that also apply to faith ...if you claim that it takes faith to get things accomphish...then you are talking about witchcraft not faith

I disagree. No surprise there.

Also, It's my opinion that any adult that loses a contest of knowledge known with a 5th grader should, at the very least, be spaded or neutered so we can get those dumb masses out of the gene pool.
I *hate* that show. It depressith me mightily.

Figures...

"I have heard many times that atheists know more about religion than religious people," Silverman said. "Atheism is an effect of that knowledge, not a lack of knowledge. I gave a Bible to my daughter. That's how you make atheists."

Atheists, agnostics, Jews and Mormons score highest on basic religion test

"Americans are by all measures a deeply religious people, but they are also deeply ignorant about religion.

Researchers from the independent Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life phoned more than 3,400 Americans and asked them 32 questions about the Bible, Christianity and other world religions, famous religious figures and the constitutional principles governing religion in public life.

On average, people who took the survey answered half the questions incorrectly, and many flubbed even questions about their own faith.

Those who scored the highest were atheists and agnostics, as well as two religious minorities: Jews and Mormons. The results were the same even after the researchers controlled for factors like age and racial differences.

"Even after all these other factors, including education, are taken into account, atheists and agnostics, Jews and Mormons still outperform all the other religious groups in our survey," said Greg Smith, a senior researcher at Pew.

That finding might surprise some, but not Dave Silverman, president of American Atheists, an advocacy group for nonbelievers that was founded by Madalyn Murray O'Hair.

"I have heard many times that atheists know more about religion than religious people," Silverman said. "Atheism is an effect of that knowledge, not a lack of knowledge. I gave a Bible to my daughter. That's how you make atheists."

Among the topics covered in the survey were: Where was Jesus born? What is Ramadan? Whose writings inspired the Protestant Reformation? Which Biblical figure led the exodus from Egypt? What religion is the Dalai Lama? Joseph Smith? Mother Theresa? In most cases, the format was multiple choice.

The researchers said that the questionnaire was designed to represent a breadth of knowledge about religion but was not intended to be regarded as a list of the most essential facts about the subject. Most of the questions were easy, but a few were difficult enough to discern which respondents were highly knowledgeable.

On questions about the Bible and Christianity, the groups that answered the most right were Mormons and white evangelical Protestants.

On questions about world religions, like Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism and Judaism, the groups that did the best were atheists, agnostics and Jews.

One finding that may grab the attention of policy makers is that most Americans wrongly believe that anything having to do with religion is prohibited in public schools.

An overwhelming 89 percent of respondents, asked whether public school teachers are permitted to lead a class in prayer, correctly answered no.

But fewer than 1 in 4 knew that a public school teacher is permitted "to read from the Bible as an example of literature." And only about one third knew that a public school teacher is permitted to offer a class comparing the world's religions.

The survey's authors concluded that there was "widespread confusion" about "the line between teaching and preaching."

Smith said the survey appeared to be the first comprehensive effort at assessing the basic religious knowledge of Americans, so it is impossible to tell whether they are more or less informed than in the past.

The phone interviews were conducted in English and Spanish in May and June. There were not enough Muslim, Buddhist or Hindu respondents to say how those groups ranked.

Clergy members who are concerned that their congregants know little about the essentials of their own faith will no doubt be appalled by some of these findings:

— Fifty-three percent of Protestants could not identify Martin Luther as the man who started the Protestant Reformation.

— Forty-five percent of Catholics did not know that their church teaches that the consecrated bread and wine in holy communion are not merely symbols but actually become the body and blood of Christ.

— Forty-three percent of Jews did not know that Maimonides, one of the foremost rabbinical authorities and philosophers, was Jewish.

The question about Maimonides was the one that the fewest people answered correctly. But 51 percent knew that Joseph Smith was Mormon, and 82 percent knew that Mother Theresa was Roman Catholic."

http://newsok.com/atheists-agnostics-jews-and-mormons-score-highest-on-basic-religion-test/article/3499273

Since I do not believe in other religions or the Gods they worship I do not waste time learning about them.I couldn't tell you the first thing about Buddhism,or Hinduism.I'm sure I would flunk their test on religion but could pass on test on Christianity with flying colors.

"The more you know, the less you'll believe."---unknown

if one truely knows that God truely exist...then there would be no reason to truely believe......

this is why "to believe is to doubt"

Believing isn't to doubt. If you are sure of something, you believe you're right. If you believe a lemon is yellow, you know the lemon is yellow.

If you know what science tells you, you BELIEVE it to be true. Believing has no doubt.

here's a simple question...

do you "believe" that you yourself exist to yourself or do you "know" that you yourself exist to yourself?

please choose only one of the two words...either "believe" or "know" ...and please do not substitute any other words for those two words

I know i exist, i can touch my arm and feel myself.

that you feel yourself probably is a conversation meant for Mingles2 sex forum ...but anyway....

you "know" that you exist to you yourself... but can only "believe" that God exist....

and that is why to "believe" in anything or to have a belief in something is to have doubt because you do not have enough knowledge to actually "know".. and doubt is the true purpose of having faith

No

I KNOW I exist because i can touch my arm and FEEL myself.
I KNOW our father exist because I can reach out to him and FEEL him as well.

Ask anyone that believes in God and i'm sure they'll tell you of atleast one incident of them feeling the presence of our father.

nah....now you're making up stuff...because if you could reach out and touch God then you wouldn't still be out there knowingly sinning ....which means what you feel is either Satan or you have a case of gas

but you proved my point when you answered the question...you "know" that you exist but you can't claim that you know that God exist until you meet him on judgement day...which is why you can only have faith that he does exist