Topic: ‘Great Recession’ over, research group says
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Mon 09/20/10 04:05 PM
The “Great Recession” has ended, officially.

At least, that's the word from the private, nonprofit research organization that calls the beginnings and endings of recessions, the National Bureau of Economic Research.

The NBER said Monday that the recession which began in December 2007 ended in June 2009, which marked the beginning of an expansion. The announcement rules out the possibility of a so-called “double-dip” recession, because any new downturn would be seen as a brand new recession.

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President Barack Obama said that even though the NBER officially named an end to the recession, the economy has a long way to go and much work to be done to become healthy again. "Something that took ten years to create is going to take a little more time to solve," Obama said at a town-hall-style meeting shown live on CNBC.

The NBER said it chose the June 2009 date based on examination of data including gross domestic product, employment and personal income.

"The recession lasted 18 months, which makes it the longest of any recession since World War II. Previously the longest postwar recessions were those of 1973-75 and 1981-82, both of which lasted 16 months," the NBER added in a press release on its website.

Just because the recession ended 15 months ago, it doesn't mean that the economy is healthy, the NBER asserted. "Economic activity is typically below normal in the early stages of an expansion, and it sometimes remains so well into the expansion," the NBER said.

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..In April, the NBER declined to call the end of the recession, and some of its members said at the time they were concerned the economy could dip back into negative territory. In Monday's announcement, the NBER said any fresh downturn would mark a new recession, not a continuation of the one that began in December 2007.

"The basis for this decision was the length and strength of the recovery to date," the NBER said.

U.S. officials have been struggling to find a way to speed up a sluggish recovery that has left unemployment at a painfully high 9.6 percent. The U.S. Federal Reserve's policy-setting committee meets on Tuesday and is widely expect to discuss whether additional measures are warranted to bolster the economy.

The NBER normally takes its time in declaring a recession has started or ended.

For instance, the NBER announced in December 2008 that the recession had actually started one year earlier, in December 2007.

Similarly, it declared in July 2003 that the 2001 recession was over. It actually ended 20 months earlier, in November 2001.

Its determination is of interest to economic historians — and political leaders. Recessions that occur on their watch pose political risks.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39269753/ns/business-eye_on_the_economy/

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Mon 09/20/10 04:06 PM
That's great! Now everyone can just head back to work tomorrow, right?

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Mon 09/20/10 04:08 PM

The “Great Recession” has ended, officially.

At least, that's the word from the private, nonprofit research organization that calls the beginnings and endings of recessions, the National Bureau of Economic Research.

The NBER said Monday that the recession which began in December 2007 ended in June 2009, which marked the beginning of an expansion. The announcement rules out the possibility of a so-called “double-dip” recession, because any new downturn would be seen as a brand new recession.

Story: Obama: Much more work needed to fix the economy
President Barack Obama said that even though the NBER officially named an end to the recession, the economy has a long way to go and much work to be done to become healthy again. "Something that took ten years to create is going to take a little more time to solve," Obama said at a town-hall-style meeting shown live on CNBC.

The NBER said it chose the June 2009 date based on examination of data including gross domestic product, employment and personal income.

"The recession lasted 18 months, which makes it the longest of any recession since World War II. Previously the longest postwar recessions were those of 1973-75 and 1981-82, both of which lasted 16 months," the NBER added in a press release on its website.

Just because the recession ended 15 months ago, it doesn't mean that the economy is healthy, the NBER asserted. "Economic activity is typically below normal in the early stages of an expansion, and it sometimes remains so well into the expansion," the NBER said.

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..In April, the NBER declined to call the end of the recession, and some of its members said at the time they were concerned the economy could dip back into negative territory. In Monday's announcement, the NBER said any fresh downturn would mark a new recession, not a continuation of the one that began in December 2007.

"The basis for this decision was the length and strength of the recovery to date," the NBER said.

U.S. officials have been struggling to find a way to speed up a sluggish recovery that has left unemployment at a painfully high 9.6 percent. The U.S. Federal Reserve's policy-setting committee meets on Tuesday and is widely expect to discuss whether additional measures are warranted to bolster the economy.

The NBER normally takes its time in declaring a recession has started or ended.

For instance, the NBER announced in December 2008 that the recession had actually started one year earlier, in December 2007.

Similarly, it declared in July 2003 that the 2001 recession was over. It actually ended 20 months earlier, in November 2001.

Its determination is of interest to economic historians — and political leaders. Recessions that occur on their watch pose political risks.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39269753/ns/business-eye_on_the_economy/



its slow moving, but I do believe it could have been much worse and that it is on its way back

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Mon 09/20/10 04:13 PM
Edited by heavenlyboy34 on Mon 09/20/10 04:14 PM
Highly unlikely. Gold is up again today, and the dollar is still weak. M2 numbers are still climbing (the money supply is expanding artificially). Unfunded liabilities are also climbing daily. National debt to GDP ratio is about 90%. Not looking good anytime soon.

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Mon 09/20/10 04:18 PM
But, if it was on the news, then it has to be true!

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/20/10 04:28 PM
time will tell,,,,,

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Mon 09/20/10 04:44 PM


it's obvious the research group doesn't live at my house...smokin

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Mon 09/20/10 04:52 PM
Yea, they have a "measurement" that says when we are not in a recession anymore.

It means little to the US citizens though.

If the economy takes a turn for the worse again it will be considered a new recession.

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Tue 09/21/10 09:15 PM

Yea, they have a "measurement" that says when we are not in a recession anymore.

It means little to the US citizens though.

If the economy takes a turn for the worse again it will be considered a new recession.


It's called "propaganda"

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Tue 09/21/10 09:39 PM
No it's called economics.

It was the longest recession in history and hopefully we do not fall into another one.

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Tue 09/21/10 09:45 PM

No it's called economics.

It was the longest recession in history and hopefully we do not fall into another one.



How do you fall into another one a couple of months later? It's the same one we were led into before, and told it was over. Recessions don't happen close together, they never ended yet.

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Tue 09/21/10 09:55 PM

But, if it was on the news, then it has to be true!


laugh rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Tue 09/21/10 09:56 PM
I think that report was written by Obama.

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Tue 09/21/10 10:37 PM


No it's called economics.

It was the longest recession in history and hopefully we do not fall into another one.



How do you fall into another one a couple of months later? It's the same one we were led into before, and told it was over. Recessions don't happen close together, they never ended yet.
It ended in June of 2009 technically so if we have down turn now it will be considered another recession.

It comes down to how the economists measure it.

It doesn't mean we are fully recovered by a long shot.

So we don't feel the difference.

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Tue 09/21/10 11:01 PM
So some Washington based group says the recessioin is over, and all the liberals are jumping for joy!! LOLlaugh laugh
But the joke is on them.

The recession is far from over, its just beginning!!

Oblowme has two more years. Thats two more years of lies and unpopular policies that hurt the American economy and other sectors.

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Tue 09/21/10 11:28 PM
A recession is over when two quarters of growth are recorded.I don't know who is adding these numbers but the economy has not been growing since June of 2009.Anyone who thinks this recession is over is a total fool.You don't grow the economy and have record job losses at the same time.