Well, now major American Muslim groups are coming out and saying he should be tried with treason..........

they all should... there was never a draft, it was all a voluntary decision that they made. We have been at war since the 90's with one muslim group or another, and it wasn't a secret. he didn't know when he signed up? BS. he made a mistake signing the papers, he should pay for that mistake. i had to, along with everyone else that joins the military.

McVeigh did not blow up the building in the name of Catholicism.
he was an anti social government hater. end result was the same, but he did not do it for religious purpose.

I love to watch 'em try to divert attention away from the 'cause' they support with deceptive li'l red herrings and straw man side issues ... He's STILL a coward, and he's STILL a muslim, and he should STILL be put into general population at Leavenworth ... better yet, MAKE him do front-line duty so he can 'accidentally' be fragged ...

An American Muslim organization is asking the U.S. Army to deny a Muslim soldier’s request for conscientious objector status, accusing him of treason and urging the military to punish him to the full extent of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Pfc. Naser Abdo, a 20-year-old infantryman who joined the Army one year ago, filed for conscientious objector status in June, saying his faith and the military don't mix. "As a Muslim, we stand against injustice, we stand against discrimination, and I feel it's my duty as an individual to do this," Abdo told FoxNews.com.

The Army has deferred his scheduled deployment to Afghanistan.

But the American Islamic Forum for Democracy (AIFD) says Abdo's claim is “patently false.”

"Muslims serve with distinction throughout the United States Military and AIFD sees Abdo’s traitorous public assertions as a slap in the face to all American Muslims especially those Muslims who fight in our armed forces for the liberty and freedom guaranteed by the American Constitution," the group said in a statement it issued on Friday.

Said Dr. M. Zuhdi Jasser, president of AIFD: “Abdo’s actions are an affront to every American Muslim who has proudly donned a U.S. military uniform. His assertions are not built on Islamic teachings but on a feeble adherence to the global political ideology of Islamism that threatens our security and radicalizes our Muslim youth.”

Abdo said that in addition to conflicting with his religion beliefs, his military duties were also consuming every part of his day and interfering with his religious duties. "I knew that if I went to Afghanistan and, God forbid, something were to happen, that my faith was so weak that I wouldn't be admitted into heaven," he said.

But AIFD on Friday called Abdo’s claim a cowardly attempt to use his faith to make a political statement and said it belies the religious experience of the vast majority of Muslim-American troops who have found the time to perform their spiritual rituals.

“The Military has made the application for CO status extremely clear so that soldiers, sailors and marines can not abuse the system and run from their military responsibility,” said Jasser, a former lieutenant commander in the United States Navy.

Fort Campbell spokeswoman Kelly DeWitt said Abdo's deployment had been deferred, but according to Army regulations he may be deployed to Afghanistan at any time like other members of his unit.

"The Army recognizes that even in our all-volunteer force, a soldier's moral, ethical or religious beliefs may change over time," an Army statement read. "The Army and Fort Campbell has procedures in place for soldiers who declare themselves to be conscientious objectors and who apply for conscientious objector status."

AIFD says it hopes the military denies Abdo’s claim and punishes him to the full extent of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. The group is also asking other American Muslim organizations to speak out and make it clear that no loyal American Muslim should ever seek CO status.

Abdo's attorney, James Branum, says if Abdo's claim is denied, he can re-file with new evidence, seek to take the matter to a federal civilian court, refuse to deploy or drop the matter altogether. He acknowledged that Abdo could go to jail if he refuses to obey orders to deploy.

"We're trying to avoid that kind of showdown," Branum told FoxNews.com. "At this moment, Abdo is in a place where he's not going to violate his conscience."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/02/islamic-group-asks-army-deny-muslim-soldiers-request-conscientious-objector/

It's actually since the late 70's or 80's when the barracks got attacked and the Iranian hostage crisis.

Excuse me? If you know anything about me you would know that I support gay marriage and equal rights for LGBT.

I think Muslim's should be screened very closely before being allowed to enter, including a polygraph.

He should not only have to pay the Military back everything but he should be tried for treason and refusing to deploy and sentanced to the maximum allowable under the UCMJ.

I'd rather him goto Leavenworth and meet Bubba. Cupecake will be the bell of the ball.

Yup, it wasn't due to any religion, just general hatred of the US Government.

only if they change the laws first

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court (article three, section three of the constitution)

they even have a 'consciencious objector discharge', complete with application forms,

'To qualify for discharge from the military you must show that you do, in fact, conscientiously object to participating in war, and that your beliefs have changed, or “crystallized” since you joined the military. If you believe you might fall within this definition'


He is breaking no law and committing no treason, he is doing what plenty before have had the RIGHT to do.

Sure, they all have the right to petition the Military. As long as he follows the Chain of Command and obeys orders.

The Military isn't a Democracy. Enlistees don't get a vote.

Again, if his petition is denied and he is given orders and he disobeys orders, he will face Court Martial.

Need updates to see if his petition is accepted or denied.

Chances are, he won't be given a General Discharge. Given, he could have chosen a non-combat MOS.

It almost feels like he wanted the training to kill.

Hopefully, he will be well interrogated to see if his intent is to use his training against the US.

I would say this follows along the lines of adhering to their enemies and giving them comfort.

but it doesnt fall under an 'overt' act. He is following a LEGAL process that hundreds before him have been followed.

Any time a trainee wants to be treated as "special" they are either put teough the wringer by the training officers and/or his fellow trainees. When one act out, the rest suffer the consequences. They are traeted as a team. One screws up, they all give 'em 20.

His fellows prolly got pretty tired of his, wanting to not be part of the team.

Lots of times, they will throw the trouble maker a blanket party. The trouble maker will either drop out or fall int line.

Just like the rest of the team.

Marching and cadence are just walking if theye aren't all following the same beat.

If he is found guilty and out of line, I recommend Dishonerable discharge.

If he IS granted a DD, they better plan on monitoring his movements and associations, 'cuz at that point he's got a LOT of knowledge he can use against us 'infidels' - who he won't have any 'conscientious objections' about killing ...

A DD is not enough.

yeah, thats PROLLY what happened, small chance some GUNG HO ALL AMERICAN TYPES would be guilty of PREJUDICE against someone just because they found out he was muslim,,,it must have been something HE did wrong for them to do that,,,,,,


come to think of it thats PROLLY what happened with ALL the conscientous objector applicants in the military,, just whinging because of the treatment they got for not 'falling in line'

You have all religions that are CO's. They are the week that joinned for the training, enlistment bonus, and college money. I had a couple when I was in and neither were Muslim but they used the excuse of their religion so they wouldn't have to deploy. I personally hate that there is a clause that they can be CO's. You join knowing that there is a possibility that you will go to war especially in the last 8 years, definitely if you are infantry. If you are against going to war don't join period!!!