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Children abused, killed as witches in Nigeria
"Religious leaders capitalize on the ignorance of some parents in the villages just to make some money off them," "They can say your child is a witch and if you bring the child to the church we can deliver the child but eventually they don't deliver the children... The parents go back to the pastor and say, 'why is it you have not been able to deliver the child' and the pastor says 'Oh - this one has gone past deliverance - they've eaten too much flesh so you have to throw the child out.'" And most pastors charge a fee for deliverance -- anywhere from $300 to $2,000. "One of the most notorious and influential pastors is Helen Ukpabio of Liberty Gospel Church. Her 1999 film, the widely distributed, "End of the Wicked" has been attacked by child rights groups for its depictions of Satan possessing children. She had agreed to an interview but the meeting was continually postponed for two days. But in her preaching at Liberty Gospel Church, she heralds success stories of how she has driven out demons through deliverance. "Witches and wizards, they started getting afraid. I never gave them rest!" she shouted to a cheering congregation. Some pastors believe education is a more powerful tool against witchcraft fears." http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/africa/08/25/nigeria.child.witches/index.html?hpt=C2 "So who is this Helen Ukpabio and why has she rightly reserved her spot in Hell lest she repent? She’s a self-proclaimed “prophetess” who is becoming rich on the abandonment, abuse, and murder of innocent children. She runs Liberty Gospel Church and is responsible for much of the false teaching in Nigeria. You can learn much more about her from the documentary exposing the wickedness that she’s up to her neck in. If you haven’t seen it, you can check out the fruit of Helen Ukpabio’s false, Hell-spawned “gospel” in the six-part video on the post Charismania Unrestrained: Africa’s Witch Children. You cannot remain unchanged or at least unaffected after viewing it." http://defendingcontending.com/2009/03/09/the-hell-bound-false-prophetess-helen-ukpabio-of-liberty-gospel-church-in-nigeria/ |
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I didn't click on the links, but from what you posted here...this is nothing new.
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I didn't click on the links, but from what you posted here...this is nothing new. It's a Pentecostal thing....in case you were wondering the religion responsible for being used yet again for money or power...or to hate...SSDD with religion's weirdos. |
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I didn't click on the links, but from what you posted here...this is nothing new. It's a Pentecostal thing....in case you were wondering the religion responsible for being used yet again for money or power...or to hate...SSDD with religion's weirdos. What is SSDD? |
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I didn't click on the links, but from what you posted here...this is nothing new. It's a Pentecostal thing....in case you were wondering the religion responsible for being used yet again for money or power...or to hate...SSDD with religion's weirdos. What is SSDD? Same "Stuff" Different Day... |
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I didn't click on the links, but from what you posted here...this is nothing new. It's a Pentecostal thing....in case you were wondering the religion responsible for being used yet again for money or power...or to hate...SSDD with religion's weirdos. What is SSDD? Same "Stuff" Different Day... |
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So why should I care about Nigerian children??
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Foolishness to believe in possession, even more foolish to pay that kind of money. This is why education is so important. When people can read on their own, evaluate critically, think for themselves, decide for themselves, there is so much less of this insanity.
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may the lord help us all, from what ive read in here we need it. #1 we all should care for one another.the bible says "to love one another" and that means everyone#2 it's not just pentecostal, u'll find that in every religion.#3if possession is not real then ur sayin the bible is a lie or better yet, jesus isnt the son of God.because he himself cast out demons.read ur bible people. and if that dont work for ya than ask God himself. "seek and you shall find", "knock and the door will open unto you".i know ill hear alotta flack about this, so ill pray for ya'll and ask the lord to open ur eyes.and while ur at it, look up the true meaning of a witch. i promise you . its not what most people think.thank you and God bless. your friend and mine .... ME lol
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What is the true meaning of a witch?
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may the lord help us all, from what ive read in here we need it. #1 we all should care for one another.the bible says "to love one another" and that means everyone#2 it's not just pentecostal, u'll find that in every religion.#3if possession is not real then ur sayin the bible is a lie or better yet, jesus isnt the son of God.because he himself cast out demons.read ur bible people. and if that dont work for ya than ask God himself. "seek and you shall find", "knock and the door will open unto you".i know ill hear alotta flack about this, so ill pray for ya'll and ask the lord to open ur eyes.and while ur at it, look up the true meaning of a witch. i promise you . its not what most people think.thank you and God bless. your friend and mine .... ME lol well put,,, |
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As most people think witches are thought to be devil-worshippers and spell-casters and making potions, etc. Some might consider themselves that now, but the true "witch" worshipped the earth goddess and the "horned man". And what they did was paid homage to the earth. They give love back to the earth. They were far from a "devil worshipper" as we say today. It was Shakespeare's "Macbeth" that twisted the original definition for the sake of drama. There are DVD's in your local library called "A&E: Supernatural", not to be mistaken with the television series.
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and there are books also on the subject.and no i didnt learn all this on a&e lol. i started out about 7yrs ago wanting to know if there was a God and if everything mama and the preacher man on tv said was true.i ask God to show me in a way that only i would know, not because ppl said so. and he did.ive studied just about every religion out there. i found that alot of religions were made up by ppl who disagreed with each other about what the bible meant but all were based on the God's word when it came down to it.im not pentecostal but thru my studies they came the closest to the bible.i hope this helps you and hope u look into urself and not take my word for it.study and pray and ask the lord to show u . as the bible says he is our teacher. so we should never take anyones word and put it in our pocket.good luck and God bless you.i added you to my prayer list, hope u dont mind.
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and there are books also on the subject.and no i didnt learn all this on a&e lol. i started out about 7yrs ago wanting to know if there was a God and if everything mama and the preacher man on tv said was true.i ask God to show me in a way that only i would know, not because ppl said so. and he did.ive studied just about every religion out there. i found that alot of religions were made up by ppl who disagreed with each other about what the bible meant but all were based on the God's word when it came down to it.im not pentecostal but thru my studies they came the closest to the bible.i hope this helps you and hope u look into urself and not take my word for it.study and pray and ask the lord to show u . as the bible says he is our teacher. so we should never take anyones word and put it in our pocket.good luck and God bless you.i added you to my prayer list, hope u dont mind. I am already familiar with what a witch is....just curious as to what you thought it was. Thanks for taking the time to share. I'm not really interested in being prayed for, but I appreciate the thought and gesture. |
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So why should I care about Nigerian children?? Umm....because they're children? |
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may the lord help us all, from what ive read in here we need it. #1 we all should care for one another.the bible says "to love one another" and that means everyone#2 it's not just pentecostal, u'll find that in every religion.#3if possession is not real then ur sayin the bible is a lie or better yet, jesus isnt the son of God.because he himself cast out demons.read ur bible people. and if that dont work for ya than ask God himself. "seek and you shall find", "knock and the door will open unto you".i know ill hear alotta flack about this, so ill pray for ya'll and ask the lord to open ur eyes.and while ur at it, look up the true meaning of a witch. i promise you . its not what most people think.thank you and God bless. your friend and mine .... ME lol Excellent point!Little know fact that even Mary Magdalene had demons inside her. Mark 16:9 "Now after he had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons." Luke 8:2 "And also some women who had been healed of evil spirits and sicknesses: Mary who was called Magdalene, from whom seven demons had gone out." |
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too late ruth, i already put u on my prayer list lol
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thank you thomas, glad someone reads their bible lol
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I need to correct myself.
In some Afro-Carribean religions...possession by spirits is practiced, what is described in the previous links is a different story. |
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Edited by
MiddleEarthling
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may the lord help us all, from what ive read in here we need it. #1 we all should care for one another.the bible says "to love one another" and that means everyone That's not the flavor of today, Christians are standing idly by while a full assault on Islam is in progress. It's like the 60's again except blacks are not the main target anymore...well except for one...Obama, but then he's part of the demonization now that the RW Christians call him a Muslim too...well placed BS! Sure a few rational Christians are speaking up but for the most part I see people who claim a moral authority leading the attacks. To them it's screw the US Constitution...they have a crusade to commit. #2 it's not just pentecostal, u'll find that in every religion. Exactly and let's not forget that Hitler was a devout Christian and his flock gladly followed the anti-Jew hype and fear of that led to "regular Christians" rioting against Jews...just like Watts yo. The post's subject is yet another example of how ANY religion can get out of hand...am not sure why people of religion cannot respect humanity, how can they blindly turn into zomibes on command? Glenn Beck is now their savior? LOL...Pat Robertson? Ted Haggarty...oh wait, he's not back yet....id he cured? LOLOL…that is so stupid….anyway. #3if possession is not real then ur sayin the bible is a lie or better yet, jesus isnt the son of God.because he himself cast out demons.read ur bible people. There's more than ONE book in the world. I need scientific evidence of your claims about the bible's validity. Never seen a thing...and no, no hand-me-down folk lore speak. Basically the bible is a mere fairytale that has been humanity's ball and chain forever. Example: Would you believe that 60% of Americans do not believe in evolution? Now how stupid is that? Are we not all grown up and do we not possess the basic abilities to understand the fundamentals of our environment and our history? I've read your bible, took some theology courses and have attended churches before...nah, never caved to that idealogy and I'll save the hypocrisies for later but literalists are just absolute bat loons...if I had lost my mind like that I believed then I'd keep it to myself...or seek professional help. and if that dont work for ya than ask God himself. "seek and you shall find", "knock and the door will open unto you".i know ill hear alotta flack about this, so ill pray for ya'll and ask the lord to open ur eyes.and while ur at it, look up the true meaning of a witch. i promise you . its not what most people think.thank you and God bless. your friend and mine .... ME lol If people use "god" in an indefinable belief system that's ok with me...I've had many fine Christian women, shucks some of them have even called ME "god"...at times....lol...but to organize religion and make it a public spectacle, to vote for morons that they think will promote their[/] faith system (and WALK ALL OVER our Constitution), if they want to ignore thread's subject then shame on them...to put it mildly. I swear, half the time here I feel like I am talking to a 10 year old child who has to be told the truth even if it hurts....let them eat tears, they gotta grow up and face the facts. Life is not a fantasy....when you god people grow up use the fantasies for the bedroom. Let the America Christian Soldiers go over to Nigeria and stop the madness…no takers? Did any ANY of you bother to donate or blog elsewhere to raise awareness? Call your representative?...oh that's right, your reps are busy opposing reforms for political gains...and resticting women's right...etc etc etc. What’s the Palin crowd saying about this? Nothing right? Now brush your teeth and go back to sleep. |
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