Topic: Being PC
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Wed 08/25/10 08:32 PM
Edited by Kings_Knight on Wed 08/25/10 08:33 PM
PC is only useful for (a) those who want to control others and (b) those who want to be controlled by others.

People who are capable of thinking for themselves think it sucks.

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Wed 08/25/10 08:41 PM
Actually being PC shows that the person speaking cares about the people they speak of.

It shows a mutual respect.

You know the old saying "you have to give respect to get it"

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Wed 08/25/10 08:46 PM
being PC doesn't necessarily equate to respect, just as not being PC doesn't mean you aren't showing respect.

The example of the KKK member being "PC" doesn't mean that KKK is being respectful.

Mostly it's the context and meaning behind words.

People can be respectful without being PC

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Wed 08/25/10 08:52 PM
When a KKK member attempts to be PC, it is not being PC, it is for deception.

A person who is being PC is showing respect for fellow humans regardless to differences.

PC is not deception or lies.

Deception or lies is what they are.

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Wed 08/25/10 08:54 PM

being PC doesn't necessarily equate to respect, just as not being PC doesn't mean you aren't showing respect.

The example of the KKK member being "PC" doesn't mean that KKK is being respectful.

Mostly it's the context and meaning behind words.

People can be respectful without being PC

it's a generic form of lying...if someone tells you this is how you have to talk, it turns the meanings worthless. it's not how you want to to talk, it's how your being told to talk.

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Wed 08/25/10 08:56 PM

When a KKK member attempts to be PC, it is not being PC, it is for deception.

A person who is being PC is showing respect for fellow humans regardless to differences.

PC is not deception or lies.

Deception or lies is what they are.

so much for not judging the book by it's cover, huh... just because they are kkk, they lie? that kinda says what rose was saying, but you don't see it...

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Wed 08/25/10 08:57 PM
Not true.

Intelligently deciding to choose a word that is not offensive to anyone but gets the point across is not being deceptive or lying. It is using whats between your ears to show respect to all humans.

Choosing not to be pc shows, in my opinion, a person who doesn't want to be respectful and therefore deserves none.

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Wed 08/25/10 09:02 PM

Not true.

Intelligently deciding to choose a word that is not offensive to anyone but gets the point across is not being deceptive or lying. It is using whats between your ears to show respect to all humans.

Choosing not to be pc shows, in my opinion, a person who doesn't want to be respectful and therefore deserves none.


is true.. the only intelligent choice is what word they tell you is ok, you can choose between the two words... very intelligent

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Wed 08/25/10 09:10 PM
Noone tells someone what to say.



If we called all Americans Americans that would be best but if there has to be a label using a PC one is just using the brain to show respect to people.

That is it. No lies needed. No deception needed.

Just respect and using our brain to show it.

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Wed 08/25/10 09:19 PM
It is as I have said before....it's the context and meaning behind the words, not necessarily the words itself. But many times it is hard to tell the meaning behind the words. A person can be disrespected without knowing it just because someone is using nice words.ohwell

A person can be respectful without being PC or using PC terms.

There is nothing wrong with being PC, if that is how the person decides to speak. There is nothing wrong with not using PC words, if that is how a person decides to speak. I don't need people to be PC around me or when talking to me. If they decide to, that is their choice. I would rather have someone speak to me without worrying about offending me with everyday, normal words. That's just me and how I am.

It's all about preference.

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Wed 08/25/10 09:39 PM
I don't know who decides what is PC, but my big problem with PC is that it keeps changing because someone (whoever the powers that be are) decided to replace a word with another. I can't keep up with it.

Common courtesy and common respect with the good intentions behind it are life long

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Wed 08/25/10 09:44 PM
Edited by Kings_Knight on Wed 08/25/10 09:46 PM

Noone tells someone what to say.

If we called all Americans Americans that would be best but if there has to be a label using a PC one is just using the brain to show respect to people.

That is it. No lies needed. No deception needed.

Just respect and using our brain to show it.


Really ... ? Try saying that 'The UN' is the least competent person in any room he enters and see how the PC psychophants 'n psuckups start trying to shut you down ... Try saying that Reagan was the greatest President of the 20th Century and watch the PC libwhacks start foaming at the mouth trying to shut you up ... 'respect' by the PC crowd is 'honored' more in the breach than in the observance ... THEY can say anything THEY want - no one else is granted that freedom by them ...

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Wed 08/25/10 09:45 PM
What I do is ask people what they prefer I use in reference to them while talking to others.

So I hear it from the horses mouth.

I always want to be respectful to all other humans.

It is really important to me and it shows me that others consider being respectful important making them more deserving of respect from others.

It is a good reader of people and their way of treating others.

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Wed 08/25/10 09:48 PM
Kings....IMO that isn't a matter of being PC. There are terms that are clearly derogatory and the only use for those is to belittle and insult people.

That has nothing to do with PC. It has to do with not bashing or insulting.

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Wed 08/25/10 09:54 PM


Noone tells someone what to say.

If we called all Americans Americans that would be best but if there has to be a label using a PC one is just using the brain to show respect to people.

That is it. No lies needed. No deception needed.

Just respect and using our brain to show it.


Really ... ? Try saying that 'The UN' is the least competent person in any room he enters and see how the PC psychophants 'n psuckups start trying to shut you down ... Try saying that Reagan was the greatest President of the 20th Century and watch the PC libwhacks start foaming at the mouth trying to shut you up ... 'respect' by the PC crowd is 'honored' more in the breach than in the observance ... THEY can say anything THEY want - no one else is granted that freedom by them ...


But the whole point is, why would you want to call them like that? Of course they gonna try to shut you down. You are defeating yourself from the first go and you are stereotyping various peoples with names, like they belong to a swarm or something..that all think the same way.

That's the major reason really why. And now you just stereotyped again in your post, throwing the "entire PC crowd" into a group, like they are all the same and it's some sort of an agenda who "tries to shut you up".

"They can say whatever they want" - Who are the "they"? And no they can't say whatever they want at all.


And what restriction of a "freedom" you are talking about?

If someone get criticized for what he or she is saying, that's not limiting freedom. You still said it or wrote it. If you would make your own blog, and write nothing but "ni**ers , you can do that too. But just make sure you can face the criticism. There are actually plenty of blogs like that, even pictures if you google them.

And no, for getting criticism for it, is not "limiting freedom" at all. What would be limiting freedom is not being allowed to criticize you for saying whatever you want.

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Wed 08/25/10 09:55 PM
... and negroid are dated terms, but they were once official as well,,,,,however I have rarely heard either used in a non derogatory context in this day and age


I've occasionally heard caucasoid, negroid, and mongoloid and rarely others (for native american or native australian) in entirely non-derogatory fashion.



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Wed 08/25/10 10:00 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Wed 08/25/10 10:01 PM

... and negroid are dated terms, but they were once official as well,,,,,however I have rarely heard either used in a non derogatory context in this day and age


I've occasionally heard caucasoid, negroid, and mongoloid and rarely others (for native american or native australian) in entirely non-derogatory fashion.





Because those are scientific terms. You gotta call people "something" can't clap and say "that one".

But the word "ni**er" originated from the country name "Niger" and that word originated from the word "negro" which is a latin word for black.

The problem with the 2 "g" version is, that it was hijacked (and spelled incorrectly) and used as a derogatory term from the time of slavery and due to that connection, it's a swear word.

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Wed 08/25/10 10:04 PM
exactly. A lot of words may have started out innocent or whatever but became derogatory due to misuse.

another example (this is just an illustration, not that it is actually a PC term)

ladies - PC

women - normal word still

b*tches - derogatory and insulting

The term b*tch was originally a derogatory term either. It meant female dog, but evolved into an insult

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Wed 08/25/10 10:04 PM


... and negroid are dated terms, but they were once official as well,,,,,however I have rarely heard either used in a non derogatory context in this day and age


I've occasionally heard caucasoid, negroid, and mongoloid and rarely others (for native american or native australian) in entirely non-derogatory fashion.


Because those are scientific terms. You gotta call people "something" can't clap and say "that one".

But the word "ni**er" originated from the country name "Niger" and that word originated from the word "negro" which is a latin word for black.

The problem with the 2 "g" version is, that it was hijacked (and spelled incorrectly) and used as a derogatory term from the time of slavery and due to that connection, it's a swear word.


Well, let's see how this concept gets treated by the PC Police ... 'slavery' began in Rhode Island in 1679 and was continued after the formation of the United States of America until after the Civil War - which means that slavery thrived and prospered under the American, not the Confederate, flag, and was originated by the North - not the South. I'll wait ...

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Wed 08/25/10 10:10 PM



... and negroid are dated terms, but they were once official as well,,,,,however I have rarely heard either used in a non derogatory context in this day and age


I've occasionally heard caucasoid, negroid, and mongoloid and rarely others (for native american or native australian) in entirely non-derogatory fashion.


Because those are scientific terms. You gotta call people "something" can't clap and say "that one".

But the word "ni**er" originated from the country name "Niger" and that word originated from the word "negro" which is a latin word for black.

The problem with the 2 "g" version is, that it was hijacked (and spelled incorrectly) and used as a derogatory term from the time of slavery and due to that connection, it's a swear word.


Well, let's see how this concept gets treated by the PC Police ... 'slavery' began in Rhode Island in 1679 and was continued after the formation of the United States of America until after the Civil War - which means that slavery thrived and prospered under the American, not the Confederate, flag, and was originated by the North - not the South. I'll wait ...


It doesn't really matter who started it. Even if Jesus would have started it, it's still wrong.