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Topic: Small Town Steps in because Feds Are "Failing on Immigration
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Sun 08/15/10 11:59 PM
Arizona is not alone in its fight for immigration reform. A lot of localities are stepping in where they feel the federal government is failing. One such town, Summerville, South Carolina, has just tentatively passed an ordinance that bans illegal immigrants from working and living there.

Walter Bailey, the town council member who proposed the ordinance tells Fox News the town needs to "send the message to Washington on immigration reform... The federal government that should be regulating immigration at our borders but has dropped the ball for whatever reason and somebody has to pick up the slack."

The ordinance won temporary approval earlier this week when the council voted 4-2 in favor of it. But an ACLU spokesperson says the ordinance violates housing laws and warns there are constitutionality issues with the ordinance. She warned the council during its hearing this week that a lawsuit is inevitable and other towns like this have spent a lot of money defending ordinances like this one.

Bailey, a former state prosecutor, says Summerville is ready for that and can't see why this ordinance is getting so much attention. "I am trying to figure out why it is controversial. At some point in our society, taking a strong stance against criminal behavior became controversial and it shouldn't be but we're prepared to do what we have to do to enforce it and if we have to, we will handle it when the time comes."

But there are those in Summerville who say they couldn't afford this lawsuit. Councilman Aaron Brown was one of the two council members who voted against the proposal. He agrees the town can't afford a lawsuit, but went even further saying he voted against the proposal because it is bad for business. Brown insists people won't want to travel to Summerville, a town near the South Carolina coast, if it has something this controversial going on.

The ordinance is up for final approval next month.

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/08/14/small-town-steps-because-feds-are-failing-immigration-0

The ACLU is unbelieveable, they will sue over a town enforcing the law? Wow.

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Fri 08/20/10 02:40 PM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 08/20/10 02:40 PM
lets not sink to the personal posts guys,, the mods wont allow it


but to the topic,,,even if ACLU sues over this, whether we agree or disagree with the decision,,,it wont be the first time the courts have decided a law was not constitutional

I think the issue at hand is not about enforcing laws, it is about whether the laws violate peoples rights,,,,(or overstep authority)


a similar ongoing war of laws occured over the issue of desegregation,,its nothing new, sometimes people stand up for what they think is right even if it conflicts with the laws and sometimes the courts uphold those positions through official rulings even if it means some laws are overturned

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=ItUzAAAAIBAJ&sjid=VOkFAAAAIBAJ&pg=3504,374920&dq=history+of+unconstitutional+us+laws&hl=en

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Fri 08/20/10 02:57 PM
Hussein has too many vacations to plan. Uh, I mean, he has too much on his plate to be concerned with securing the border, deporting Illegal Invaders, or busting Companies that hire them.

Ya' know, doing the things he swore, on the koran, uh, Bible, to do.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 08/20/10 03:09 PM

Hussein has too many vacations to plan. Uh, I mean, he has too much on his plate to be concerned with securing the border, deporting Illegal Invaders, or busting Companies that hire them.

Ya' know, doing the things he swore, on the koran, uh, Bible, to do.


they are right, the government won't allow. they tried it 2 years ago in farmers branch, texas, and they were forced to not have the law. they say it is unconstitutional to not allow "illegals" to live there.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/DN-noamnesty_16met.ART.State.Edition1.3588cac.html

eklectek's photo
Fri 08/20/10 03:10 PM
you mean border jumpers?

eklectek's photo
Fri 08/20/10 03:11 PM
wow, I thought the whole point of being called an illegal was the sheer fact that they are illegally there. How does the constitution protect illegal immigrants?

mightymoe's photo
Fri 08/20/10 03:12 PM

wow, I thought the whole point of being called an illegal was the sheer fact that they are illegally there. How does the constitution protect illegal immigrants?


obama don't understand that...

no photo
Fri 08/20/10 03:13 PM
OK tried this a few years back and the Big Government Boot came down on 'em real fast ... and even back then, Big Government was still ignoring pleas for help by cities and states for assistance against the influx of ILLEGAL ALIENS ... Just like they do today - but there were a lot fewer to deal with back then ... Look at the results of their chickenschit ball-less recruitment effort to get the 'Hispanic' vote fraud machine workin' ... and they wonder why we despise 'em ...

eklectek's photo
Fri 08/20/10 03:14 PM
lol, what a surprise....you hold him down and ill punch him in the kneecap lol

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Fri 08/20/10 03:16 PM

lol, what a surprise....you hold him down and ill punch him in the kneecap lol


Thanks, but remember, we still got Tonya Harding for that ...

eklectek's photo
Fri 08/20/10 03:16 PM
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Lpdon's photo
Fri 08/20/10 03:32 PM


wow, I thought the whole point of being called an illegal was the sheer fact that they are illegally there. How does the constitution protect illegal immigrants?


obama don't understand that...


Obama diesn't understand the term illegal and he was a lawyer. laugh

Lpdon's photo
Fri 08/20/10 03:33 PM


lol, what a surprise....you hold him down and ill punch him in the kneecap lol


Thanks, but remember, we still got Tonya Harding for that ...


Now there's an idea...........

eklectek's photo
Fri 08/20/10 03:59 PM
I thought so

willing2's photo
Fri 08/20/10 06:15 PM
If towns and states wrote, word for word, the exact Law that's on Federal books, Hussein would still whine about it.

He wants the Corporation Plan. Just like those before him.

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/20/10 06:35 PM
`rhetoric and interpretation


is it protecting ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS? or is it protecting CITIZENS who may be PROFILED as an immigrant and treated as a potential criminal...?


po tay to
po tah to

willing2's photo
Fri 08/20/10 06:49 PM
The citizen who is involved in a traffic stop and is a citizen or legal immigrant they can prove it.

Fake licenses or suspect behavior can be grounds for detention.

By Federal Law, All legal immigrants must carry their papers. Green card etc.

Let me repeat that.

By Federal Law, All legal immigrants must carry their papers. Green card etc.


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Fri 08/20/10 06:57 PM

wow, I thought the whole point of being called an illegal was the sheer fact that they are illegally there. How does the constitution protect illegal immigrants?
it doesn't. as noncitizens they are not entitled to the same civil liberties underthe constitution that American Citizens have. In fact they have less than no rights they r in violation of the law and are supposed to be deported on sight


the problem is that some of our own business owners want them here as a source of cheap labor so as a silent lobby - they act to keep them here

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Fri 08/20/10 07:02 PM

lets not sink to the personal posts guys,, the mods wont allow it


but to the topic,,,even if ACLU sues over this, whether we agree or disagree with the decision,,,it wont be the first time the courts have decided a law was not constitutional

I think the issue at hand is not about enforcing laws, it is about whether the laws violate peoples rights,,,,(or overstep authority)


a similar ongoing war of laws occured over the issue of desegregation,,its nothing new, sometimes people stand up for what they think is right even if it conflicts with the laws and sometimes the courts uphold those positions through official rulings even if it means some laws are overturned

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=ItUzAAAAIBAJ&sjid=VOkFAAAAIBAJ&pg=3504,374920&dq=history+of+unconstitutional+us+laws&hl=en


it is not at all analogous to desegregation. The Jim Crow Black Americans were legally citizens of this country, t ax payers with homes and generations of family and culture they had contributed to our nation - not to mention having fought in the US military since the American Revolution.

Illegal immigrants are not the same. They are here blatantly illegally, willfully breaking the laws of our country by remaining here illegally. I for one do not appreciate that type of disrespect when people from other countries basically laugh in our faces while consuming our tax dollars in aid. Sympathatic to their wanting to be here, maybe, but sympathetic to their blantant & wilfull illegal activity, heck no.

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Fri 08/20/10 07:03 PM
Edited by Kings_Knight on Fri 08/20/10 07:03 PM

" ... the problem is that some of our own business owners want them here as a source of cheap labor so as a silent lobby - they act to keep them here ... "


In case y' haven't noticed how fast business owners are closin' their doors and layin' people off because of 'The UN's 'economic policies' and taxation, that argument no longer holds water ... Business just ain't hiring the way it used to when the FREE MARKET was in effect ...

What DOES hold water is the DemoComs wantin' 'em here to use in their Vote Fraud Machine as 'bloc votes' to steal elections ...

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