Topic: Anne Rice dumps Christianity
markumX's photo
Mon 08/09/10 10:50 PM
lol at muslims started the wars.
1. if you want to even believe that muslims were behind 9 11, there were mostly saudi with 2 egyptians. what's that have to do with Iraq and Afghanistan?
2. If you want to believe 9 11 was actually done by muslims, it was YOUR meddling in the middle east , YOUR imperialism policies, and YOUR support for Israel's crimes that provoked this whole crusade.
Lest we not forget all of the sensless killings done by jews in the OT alone.
i'm tired of you trying to pin this on us alone. Seriously you can't be so arrogant to push around and bully the world for 200 years and not get a slap back.

s1owhand's photo
Tue 08/10/10 07:04 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Tue 08/10/10 07:05 AM

lol at muslims started the wars.
1. if you want to even believe that muslims were behind 9 11, there were mostly saudi with 2 egyptians. what's that have to do with Iraq and Afghanistan?
2. If you want to believe 9 11 was actually done by muslims, it was YOUR meddling in the middle east , YOUR imperialism policies, and YOUR support for Israel's crimes that provoked this whole crusade.
Lest we not forget all of the sensless killings done by jews in the OT alone.
i'm tired of you trying to pin this on us alone. Seriously you can't be so arrogant to push around and bully the world for 200 years and not get a slap back.


1. The 911 attack was led, claimed and celebrated by....Al Qaida!

2. Al-Qaida is a radical Muslim organization.

3. It was terrorism. Senseless targeting of innocent civilians. Killing
men women and children in large numbers on purpose for no reason except
for a political grievance. There is never any justification for terrorism.
It is mass murder.

4. The people responsible are the Muslims who desecrated themselves
and their religion with this despicable act. They made the decision to
do this and they could have made the decision to protest peacefully.
No one else is responsible for their decision and actions.

Simple as that.

michiganman3's photo
Tue 08/10/10 02:25 PM


lol at muslims started the wars.
1. if you want to even believe that muslims were behind 9 11, there were mostly saudi with 2 egyptians. what's that have to do with Iraq and Afghanistan?
2. If you want to believe 9 11 was actually done by muslims, it was YOUR meddling in the middle east , YOUR imperialism policies, and YOUR support for Israel's crimes that provoked this whole crusade.
Lest we not forget all of the sensless killings done by jews in the OT alone.
i'm tired of you trying to pin this on us alone. Seriously you can't be so arrogant to push around and bully the world for 200 years and not get a slap back.


1. The 911 attack was led, claimed and celebrated by....Al Qaida!

2. Al-Qaida is a radical Muslim organization.

3. It was terrorism. Senseless targeting of innocent civilians. Killing
men women and children in large numbers on purpose for no reason except
for a political grievance. There is never any justification for terrorism.
It is mass murder.

4. The people responsible are the Muslims who desecrated themselves
and their religion with this despicable act. They made the decision to
do this and they could have made the decision to protest peacefully.
No one else is responsible for their decision and actions.

Simple as that.


Quoted for Truth.

MiddleEarthling's photo
Wed 08/11/10 08:08 AM
Edited by MiddleEarthling on Wed 08/11/10 08:09 AM


lol at muslims started the wars.
1. if you want to even believe that muslims were behind 9 11, there were mostly saudi with 2 egyptians. what's that have to do with Iraq and Afghanistan?
2. If you want to believe 9 11 was actually done by muslims, it was YOUR meddling in the middle east , YOUR imperialism policies, and YOUR support for Israel's crimes that provoked this whole crusade.
Lest we not forget all of the sensless killings done by jews in the OT alone.
i'm tired of you trying to pin this on us alone. Seriously you can't be so arrogant to push around and bully the world for 200 years and not get a slap back.


1. The 911 attack was led, claimed and celebrated by....Al Qaida!

2. Al-Qaida is a radical Muslim organization.

3. It was terrorism. Senseless targeting of innocent civilians. Killing
men women and children in large numbers on purpose for no reason except
for a political grievance. There is never any justification for terrorism.
It is mass murder.

4. The people responsible are the Muslims who desecrated themselves
and their religion with this despicable act. They made the decision to
do this and they could have made the decision to protest peacefully.
No one else is responsible for their decision and actions.

Simple as that.


1. The 9-11 attack was an inside job by the Neo-cons to dupe the public into war for oil...and to suppport the Military Industrial Complex and rogue contractors.

2. Al-Qaida is a CIA name provided to give a scattered haters a central name for Americans to have a one word name for "the enemy".

"Top Ranking CIA Operatives Admit Al-qaeda Is a Complete Fabrication"

http://polidics.com/cia/top-ranking-cia-operatives-admit-al-qaeda-is-a-complete-fabrication.html

3. It was not about politics...to Muslims who hate it's about religion..and since so many Middle East governments are already theorcracies then politics is a moot point. Westerners just walking on their Holy Grounds will result in attacks.

4. The people responsible are/were in Amercan government and corporations who like to war for profits. America was duped on 9-11. The typical Muslim could care less about attacking us - even the leaders (OBL) are just figure heads...OBL is NOT wanted for the 9-11 attacks DOES ANYONE HERE EVEN KNOW THAT SIMPLE FACT? Probably not..

msharmony's photo
Wed 08/11/10 10:27 AM
in modern world, politics and religion are intertwined,, with the US putting so much unconditional support into Israel, where jews are the only permissable citizens

many political issues have been born from that alliance

s1owhand's photo
Wed 08/11/10 12:34 PM
Edited by s1owhand on Wed 08/11/10 12:34 PM

in modern world, politics and religion are intertwined,, with the US putting so much unconditional support into Israel, where jews are the only permissable citizens

many political issues have been born from that alliance


There is complete freedom of religion in Israel. Many faiths and
all are welcome. Your comment is a nasty slur!

surprised

s1owhand's photo
Wed 08/11/10 12:35 PM
2. Al-Qaida is a CIA name provided to give a scattered haters a central name for Americans to have a one word name for "the enemy".


rofl

RoamingOrator's photo
Wed 08/11/10 02:14 PM
I thought we were talking about a some chick that writes crappy books deciding not to go to church anymore?

RKISIT's photo
Wed 08/11/10 05:09 PM
actually stalin and all the people metioned were dictators and communist they had a god complex and i really don't remember them attacking other countries to spread atheism...

MiddleEarthling's photo
Wed 08/11/10 05:52 PM
Edited by MiddleEarthling on Wed 08/11/10 05:52 PM

2. Al-Qaida is a CIA name provided to give a scattered haters a central name for Americans to have a one word name for "the enemy".


rofl



It was ALL made up...Americans tend to be dumb as dirt not to know this simple truth...doomed to see it all repeated.

"Top Ranking CIA Operatives Admit Al-qaeda Is a Complete Fabrication
by Mr. Charrington on January 7, 2008

BBC’s killer documentary called “The Power of Nightmares“. Top CIA officials openly admit, Al-qaeda is a total and complete fabrication, never having existed at any time. The Bush administration needed a reason that complied with the Laws so they could go after “the bad guy of their choice” namely laws that had been set in place to protect us from mobs and “criminal organizations” such as the Mafia. They paid Jamal al Fadl, hundreds of thousands of dollars to back the U.S. Government’s story of Al-qaeda, a “group” or criminal organization they could “legally” go after. This video documentary is off the hook…"

http://polidics.com/cia/top-ranking-cia-operatives-admit-al-qaeda-is-a-complete-fabrication.html

But people, don't bother to look for youself....yeah, keep living by thoes FOCKS sound bites and dumbed downed information...they make you appear as really really smart.







Dragoness's photo
Wed 08/11/10 06:01 PM
Pol Pot was the leader of the Khmer Rouge and the Prime Minister of Cambodia. Under his rule, the combined effect of slave labour, malnutrition, poor medical care and executions is estimated to have killed around 2 million Cambodians(approximately a quarter of the population). He is sometimes pointed out as an atheist in order to show the so called "dangers of atheism" and to pass off the argument that many wars have been done in the name of religion
[edit] Pol Pot based his actions on class struggle

The class struggle of Marxism contradicts the individual competition implied by natural selection of Darwin's theory. Pol Pot tried to erase individuality as he thought that differences create conflicts. With his artificial equality, abolishing private possessions and so erasing natural selection from society he was doomed by Evolution to fail, like all other communists. Pol Pot targeted not just different religions as differences, but education, science and medicine too. Pol Pot’s Khmer Rouge were composed of Buddhists and Pol Pot himself was a communist and Theravada Buddhist. Pol Pot studied at a Buddhist monastery (1 year) and then later at a Catholic school (8 years). As for “Collège Preah Sihanouk” and “Lycée Sisowath” I don’t know if they were secular or Buddhist oriented education institutions. Cambodia’s communism was influenced by Theravada Buddhism (the belief system of 95% of the Khmer people) and its teaching to renunciation of the material world as Pol Pot with his followers organized perfectly by smashing cars and modern industrial equipment with hammers.

Pol Pot’s Education: 1934 – 1935 Buddhist monastery Wat Botum Vaddei in Phnom Penh 1935 – 1943 Catholic school in Phnom Penh École Miche 1943 – 1947 Collège Preah Sihanouk at Kampong Cham 1947 – 1948 Lycée Sisowath in Phnom Penh 1948 – 1949 Technical school in Phnom Penh 1949 – 1952 École Francaise de radio-électricité
[edit] Pol Pot and Theravada Buddhism

King of Cambodia from 1941, Head of State from 1955 to 1970 who resigned in 1976 Prince Norodom Sihanouk said:

"Pol Pot does not believe in God but he thinks that heaven, destiny, wants him to guide Cambodia in the way he thinks it the best for Cambodia, that is to say, the worst. Pol Pot is mad, you know, like Hitler."

Yes, Buddhists don’t believe in God, but I am ant not sure, that atheists believe in heaven (and Pol Pot’s comparison fellow Hitler in Sihanouk’s description was not atheist too). It seems that Pol Pot was not so big atheist as some Christians would like to present, mixing communism (social relations between humans) with atheism (humans relations with god) - it is absolutely different ideologies.

Pol Pot convinced the Vietnamese to help the Cambodian Communists set up their own base camp. The central committee of the party met later that year and issued a declaration calling for armed struggle. The declaration also emphasized the idea of "self-reliance" in the sense of extreme Cambodian nationalism. In the border camps, the ideology of the Khmer Rouge was gradually developed. The party, breaking with Marxism, declared rural peasant farmers to be the true working class proletarian and the lifeblood of the revolution. This is in some sense explained by the fact that none of the central committee were in any sense "working class". All of them had grown up in a feudal peasant society. The party adapted elements of Theravada Buddhism to justify their non-standard communism.

s1owhand's photo
Wed 08/11/10 06:03 PM


2. Al-Qaida is a CIA name provided to give a scattered haters a central name for Americans to have a one word name for "the enemy".


rofl



It was ALL made up...


Yeah and so was the MOON LANDING!

laugh

Dragoness's photo
Wed 08/11/10 06:05 PM
Kim Il-sung came from a deeply Christian background. In the early 1900s, Pyongyang was known as the "Jerusalem of the East" because of its proliferation of churches, so his father was undoubtedly a devout Christian and his mother was the daughter of a prominent Presbyterian elder.[11] In those days, rumors even circulated in Pyongyang that the Korean people were actually the thirteenth—or "lost"—tribe of Israel. By the late 1980s, Kim Il-sung became quite nostalgic about his youth and parents,[12] not surprising given the well-known tendency among older Korean men to want to return to their home village and its memories. Moreover, in Kim's background there were undeniably expectations among devout Koreans of the coming of the messiah. Needless to say, there is a religious utopian ideal underlying North Korean society, whose impulse likely came from the Christian origins of Kim's family in Pyongyang. In his final three years, Kim welcomed a series of visits by religious leaders, including two from the Rev. Billy Graham, in 1992 and 1994,[13] a large delegation from the U.S. National Council of Churches, as well as discussions on religion with former President Jimmy Carter. But the most important of these series of meetings was with Rev. Sun Myung Moon, founder of the Unification Church as well as the Universal Peace Federation, in late 1991.

msharmony's photo
Wed 08/11/10 06:06 PM


in modern world, politics and religion are intertwined,, with the US putting so much unconditional support into Israel, where jews are the only permissable citizens

many political issues have been born from that alliance


There is complete freedom of religion in Israel. Many faiths and
all are welcome. Your comment is a nasty slur!

surprised




of course there is a certain 'freedom of religion' but it is a state created for the JEWISH people,,, its nice that they are slightly willing to share but it still mixes politics with religion when set asides are given to a certain religous group

Dragoness's photo
Wed 08/11/10 06:08 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Wed 08/11/10 06:24 PM
Isn't it always funny to have one religious group dispute another, when they are all the same.slaphead

msharmony's photo
Wed 08/11/10 06:16 PM
i personally wish to see religious and non religious alike be neighborly to each other

but its not in the nature of many people to be neighborly

instead they hold the 'friend of my enemy is my enemy' mentality
which causes them to throw whole groups of people into a box labeled 'them' in the endless war of us vs them

so, a osama bin laden, can see our support of Israel as a friendship with the enemy which makes us the enemy deserving of our fate

and a George Bush, can see inactivity against terrorists, as a friendship with the enemy which makes Iraq part of an 'axis of evil'


I have always thought that particular mentality was barbaric and senseless and pointless,, but muslim terrorists are not the only ones who use such logic

mightymoe's photo
Wed 08/11/10 06:37 PM

Isn't it always funny to have one religious group dispute another, when they are all the same.slaphead


something we agree on!!!!

s1owhand's photo
Wed 08/11/10 06:41 PM



in modern world, politics and religion are intertwined,, with the US putting so much unconditional support into Israel, where jews are the only permissable citizens

many political issues have been born from that alliance


There is complete freedom of religion in Israel. Many faiths and
all are welcome. Your comment is a nasty slur!

surprised




of course there is a certain 'freedom of religion' but it is a state created for the JEWISH people,,, its nice that they are slightly willing to share but it still mixes politics with religion when set asides are given to a certain religous group


Israel is not a theocracy. There is COMPLETE FREEDOM OF RELIGIOUS OBSERVANCE for any religion in Israel. Israel protects and honors access to all religious sites and welcomes all religions.

In light of the attempted extermination of all Jews in the world during WWII many of the remaining Jews wanted to preserve one place in the world to serve as a permanent sanctuary where they would be allowed to freely practice their religion and this place became Israel after the Jews who were already living in Israel welcomed any seeking sanctuary. This is why they are particularly careful to make sure that all religions are welcomed and respected in Israel. Compare this to Afghanistan, Iran or other Islamic countries or Islamic theocracies where Christians, Hindus, Buddhists and Jews are NOT permitted to openly observe their religion and proselytizing or intermarriage is a crime! Israel on the other hand is much like the U.S. except in Israel Jews are in the majority.


Dragoness's photo
Wed 08/11/10 06:51 PM


Isn't it always funny to have one religious group dispute another, when they are all the same.slaphead


something we agree on!!!!


Of course I was not referring to atheism since it isn't a religion.

msharmony's photo
Wed 08/11/10 07:06 PM




in modern world, politics and religion are intertwined,, with the US putting so much unconditional support into Israel, where jews are the only permissable citizens

many political issues have been born from that alliance


There is complete freedom of religion in Israel. Many faiths and
all are welcome. Your comment is a nasty slur!

surprised




of course there is a certain 'freedom of religion' but it is a state created for the JEWISH people,,, its nice that they are slightly willing to share but it still mixes politics with religion when set asides are given to a certain religous group


Israel is not a theocracy. There is COMPLETE FREEDOM OF RELIGIOUS OBSERVANCE for any religion in Israel. Israel protects and honors access to all religious sites and welcomes all religions.

In light of the attempted extermination of all Jews in the world during WWII many of the remaining Jews wanted to preserve one place in the world to serve as a permanent sanctuary where they would be allowed to freely practice their religion and this place became Israel after the Jews who were already living in Israel welcomed any seeking sanctuary. This is why they are particularly careful to make sure that all religions are welcomed and respected in Israel. Compare this to Afghanistan, Iran or other Islamic countries or Islamic theocracies where Christians, Hindus, Buddhists and Jews are NOT permitted to openly observe their religion and proselytizing or intermarriage is a crime! Israel on the other hand is much like the U.S. except in Israel Jews are in the majority.





I agree, except that the natives here were not part of any global ethnic or religious group, their resources were limited to this continent

the Arabs are largly muslim, the muslims largely will see attacks against other muslims as attacks against them (much like westerners see attacks on other western nations)

so, I think a more accurate analogy would be if the UN came in and said,,,,hey USA,Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Utah, and California are all originally spanish territories, so we are going to alot that land back to spanish control,,,,but you are free to live there

I dont think americans would take it any more lightly than arabs have, nor would their 'allies'

in this case, the territory was set aside based on religious categories instead of ethnic,,but its essentially tying up religion with politics and causing conflict based in religion