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Mirroring Bush-era police state, Obama supports DNA sampling of public when arrested

David Gutierrez
Natural News
Aug 5, 2010

In an interview with John Walsh of “America’s Most Wanted,” President Obama voiced his support for the mandatory collection of DNA samples from U.S. residents who have not been convicted of any crime.

“It’s the right thing to do [to] tighten the grip,” he said.

Obama told Walsh that he supports the position of the federal government and the 18 states that have passed laws requiring the collection of DNA samples from all people arrested for anything from a felony to a misdemeanor. These DNA samples then become part of law enforcement databases that can then be used in future investigations.

In California, police are also allowed to use DNA databases to conduct “familial searches” for people who are close relatives of the person who presumably left behind genetic material at a crime scene. Police can then question the unknown person’s relatives in the hopes of gaining more information about them.


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The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has filed a lawsuit against California’s law allowing mandatory DNA collection from all people arrested on felony charges. Unlike a fingerprint, the ACLU notes, a DNA sample can provide vast amounts of private information about a person without their consent.

“Regarding fingerprinting, the U.S. Supreme Court has said for more than 30 years that it is not a search,” said ACLU attorney Michael Risher. “But DNA, the method of taking it, is an invasion of our body. The more significant the invasion, the more justification the government needs.

“Our position is before you take somebody’s genetic information, you need either a warrant or that person needs to be convicted of a felony with all the procedural protections anybody gets when you are charged and tried with a felony.”

Obama’s support of compulsory DNA sampling is only the most recent decision to bring him under fire from civil liberties advocates, who accuse him of continuing Bush-era policies. Other such decisions include the refusal to close Guantanamo Bay, reveal information about domestic spying programs (or halt those programs), or repeal the Patriot Act.

Sources for this story include: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/20… ; http://littlealexinwonderland.wordp… ; http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u…

Make y' a bet ... No DNA will be collected from NON-CITIZENS (say 'illegals') ... "That's tightening the grip." ... right - he just ain't sayin' on WHO ... as if we're too stupid to figure it out.

"Papieren, bitte."

fingerprints, dna,,,,,dont get arrested ,both can be damning evidence IF you commit a crime or run up against cops who believe you have...

lol i thought you would have more to say than that...lol

Getting DNA from an Illegal. Either has no papers or someone elses papers. He commits a crime and they go after the real owner of the ID.

That reminds me of times I didn't want more than just a weekend-out-o-town fling with a gal who thought it would go somewhere.

And if she wound up knocked up, I couldn't have been traced.

Now, they can find ya' usin' the drippin's!

But, seriously, folks, BO stinks more and more like the dirty Bush.

lol, I just think if you are arrested, you get fingerprinted already,, sooo whats the big deal

only concern I could have is MISUSE of dna by police which would be easier than misusing fingerprints

Oh - you missed the part that said DNA sampling can be collected from U.S. RESIDENTS who HAVEN'T BEEN CONVICTED OF ANY CRIME, right ... ? Thought so ...

conviction and arrest are different animals

'collection of DNA samples from all people arrested for anything from a felony to a misdemeanor'

they already do it for felons.

Right. Like that'll actually 'mean' anything ... ? Look, it says that DNA samples can be collected from U.S. RESIDENTS (got that?) who HAVEN'T BEEN CONVICTED (got that?) of any crime. That does NOT leave much to the imagination. Under that broad a definition, you can be stopped for 'questioning' and have a DNA swipe done by the simple act of handling a piece of paper. It's not real complex as to how it's obtained. This just confirms the old saying about being able to lead a horse to water and makin' it think ...

THIS..

In an interview with John Walsh of “America’s Most Wanted,” President Obama voiced his support for the mandatory collection of DNA samples from U.S. residents who have not been convicted of any crime


AND THIS

Obama told Walsh that he supports the position of the federal government and the 18 states that have passed laws requiring the collection of DNA samples from all people arrested for anything from a felony to a misdemeanor


are referring to ARRESTS, questioning is NOT an arrest,, possibly a DETENTION< but nowhere does it say being detained is grounds for collecting DNA

unless someone can find these 18 states which have supported randomly collecting DNA from anyone thats 'questioned',

I personally would expect ACLU to be ALL OVER such an action

I enjoy how BO is minimized as not stankin' like his buddy, the dirty old Bush.

If you are suspected, not arrested, just suspected of a crime where DNA was found, you have to either put out the DNA or get an attorney.

Most of us are aware, by requesting and attorney, the cops assume you are hiding something.

Even if you get an attorney, that doesn't guarantee a judge won't order the sample.

When you are absolved of any guilt, they will still have your DNA which goes into an international information bank.

so, I can VOLUNTEER DNA, or I can get an attorney, but attorneys usually indicate guilt?


thats interesting theory considering all the people with attorneys who have cases dismissed, or plead out, or who are found INNOCENT...

so, I can VOLUNTEER DNA, or I can get an attorney, but attorneys usually indicate guilt?


thats interesting theory considering all the people with attorneys who have cases dismissed, or plead out, or who are found INNOCENT...

so, I can VOLUNTEER DNA, or I can get an attorney, but attorneys usually indicate guilt?


thats interesting theory considering all the people with attorneys who have cases dismissed, or plead out, or who are found INNOCENT...

And THIS ...

" ... President Obama voiced his support for the mandatory collection of DNA samples from U.S. residents who have not been convicted of any crime ... " is REALITY.

'have not been convicted of any crime' is a pretty broad statement, and does NOT address the issue of arrest v. questioning v. 'being detained', etc ad infinitum.

As for the ACLU, you certainly have your hopes placed with the wrong organization. They'll be more likely to support the collection of evidence than they'll be to fight it. They're on the side of Obama, not the American people. Why is simple stuff like this so hard to see for some people ... ?

Believe what you want at your own risk ... it'll come back to bite ya - just like 'Hope' and 'Change' ...

the issue of arrest is addressed in the NEXT paragraph, those who are arrested are not yet convicted,,,

You are twisting words.

I said, cops believe, if you request an attorney, you must have something to hide.

Never the less, they will still have your DNA and don't have to give it back.

That was part of my statement, as well.

ok, I have no problem with it, they can fingerprint or DNA , at that point I probably should have an attorney anyway, and they arent gonna fingerprint or DNA without LEGAL cause,....

Their idea of legal cause is "detention on grounds of suspicion."

You get put in jail just for detention, you are fingerprinted.

You don't even have to be charged, just being a suspect can get you fingerprinted and DNAed.

What part don't you comprehend?