No sarcasm intended.

If you look back over some of your last posts, you might see you've been proving a process going on.

No, Hussein didn't start the implementation of enslaving Americans or turning our country third-world.

But, he's not doing anything to stop it.

He wouldn't have been bought in if he wasn't willing to pick up and carry the ball his predecessors provided him.

this is so off topic, but if you saw zoolander, I am right now visualizing will farrel's character, jacobib, on the runway at the end saying 'IM so tired of blue steel, its the SAME look, all of his looks are the same look, doesnt anybody see this,,,am I taking CRAZY pills or something?!"

this is kind of how I feel about the constant nagging and nit picking of everything the President does or doesnt do,,its the same complaint, he is wrong, he is wrong, blah blah blah

,glad to know its not crazy pills and someone else sees it too,,,

The funniest part of Stewerts gig was when he said "ok so if Obama would have gone to the boyscout jamboree the republicans would say "Oh so he was invited to an open forum to discuss womans issues on national tv and choose to go meet with adoreing uniformed youth standing in an open field.. hmmmm I wonder who else would have made that choice?
as he gives the one arm hitler salute

Oddly enough, Jon Stewart, 'The Daily Show', 'The Colbert Report', 'South Park' etc etc etc ad infinitum have nothing whatever to do with Obama's activist plan and program to preside over the planned destruction of this country to turn it into a Third World 'Zimbabwe / Rwanda / Uganda / Chad / Ethiopia / Somalia' (insert 'most-favored-nation here). There has been NO other president in American history who took pride in the destruction of this country - Obama wallows in it. He sees it as his task - or route to Muslimic 'redemption' - to preside over the piece-by-piece disassembly of everything that has been built and defended for 234 years. No other president EXCEPT HIM took pride in being the 'president who presided over the destruction of America'. He asked for the job in order to do precisely that. Bailouts create nothing. 'Stimulus' creates nothing. Unions create nothing. Illegals create nothing. GM's new 'VOLT' gets FORTY MILES on a charge, and has to have a $7,500 TAX CREDIT to even get people into the showroom to look at it. FREE MARKETS create jobs. FREE MARKETS provide paychecks. FREE MARKETS provide people with the ability and the income to aspire to - and attain - a better life. Obama's Command-And-Control Communist economic model will make America a failed nation every bit as much as it has made every OTHER nation that has tried it. NOW does it make sense why he want his own private 'National Defence Corps' ... and a broken military? If y' can't read them kinda tea leaves, there's no hope for ya. More Kool-Aid® ... ?

I just hope he doesnt kill the prime minister of malaysia,,,

I read in that bill, a president will be able to decide which registrants will do civil service and which will do Military service.

The ones who claim their religion keeps them from killing can still be put into Military service and into war zones.

They will have every right to not kill.

exemptions

(a) Qualifications- No person may be inducted for military service under this title unless the person is acceptable to the Secretary concerned for training and meets the same health and physical qualifications applicable under section 505 of title 10, United States Code, to persons seeking original enlistment in a regular component of the Armed Forces.


(a) Claims as Conscientious Objector- Nothing in this title shall be construed to require a person to be subject to combatant training and service in the uniformed services, if that person, by reason of sincerely held moral, ethical, or religious beliefs, is conscientiously opposed to participation in war in any form.

(b) Alternative Noncombatant or Civilian Service- A person who claims exemption from combatant training and service under subsection (a) and whose claim is sustained by the local board shall--

(1) be assigned to noncombatant service (as defined by the President), if the person is inducted into the uniformed services; or

(2) be ordered by the local board, if found to be conscientiously opposed to participation in such noncombatant service, to perform national civilian service for the period specified in section 104(a) and subject to such regulations as the President may prescribe.

The Kool-Aid® really DOES work ... remember, you saw it live here first ... Don't be gettin' all whiney 'n stuff when it's YOUR kid who gets his draft notice in the mail ...

lol, could already be my kid, since SELECTIVE SERVICE was implemented over fifty years ago and he has had to register,,,,,and I wont have OBama to blame for that,,,I will have to research further at who implemented THAT bill to figure out whom I should whinge about,,,lol

This won't be a-comin' from no 'Selective Service' board - but it WILL be the DRAFT that every Liberal Socialist Progressive marched against in the streets during the '60s ... Santayana was right - too bad more people don't read him and take him seriously.

The Selective Service System and the registration requirement for America's young men provide our Nation with a structure and a system of guidelines which will provide the most prompt, efficient, and equitable draft possible, if the country should need it. America's leaders agree that despite the success of the All-Volunteer Force, registration with Selective Service must continue as a key component of national security strategy.

http://www.sss.gov/what.htm

but I guess that LIST will just be ignored for Rangels bill,,,,,

The bolded parts.

And look, every important part, they are sure to add, a pres. has the final say.

There are many non-combatants in War Zones. They get killed as easily as ground pounders.

Finally, the Pres. has the final say.

No, just because a kid is in College does not exempt them from draft.

Again, that final decision is up to Hussein.

It don't matter who they are or what they believe. If the war machine needs more meat to grease the wheels, they will be picked.

Don't try to kid yourself.

Every Mammas baby is at risk.

and? it was the Presidents call before Obama, its called selective service and the draft

neither of which were implemented under this presidency or even in my lifetime,,,

It seems that msharmony has the strongest understanding of this bill. While this bill may serve to identify the population who might best be considered ‘combat material’ (ie. military prospects), its scope and base more broadly represents citizen interaction with their nation as a community. It is an opportunity to serve the country in a way which accommodates the ethical and philosophical ideals of young people.

Volunteer records indicate that more young adults and teenagers are ‘volunteering’ in far greater numbers than ever before. Some scientists in the social fields suggest the evidence indicates that young adults are aware of the struggles of people as they attempt to overcome the failing economy and feel a need to act – to serve the broad community of ‘nation’.

Others suggest that our ever present media, specifically the internet, and thousands of grassroots spokes persons are serving to inform these people of the national situations. Being more informed of what need is present, and having a greater connection to a broader community through those avenues inspires people to act, to be connected, to be part of something bigger than themselves.

This is a pretty new concept and is still being explored BUT in either case we find that people are actually ‘willing’ to commit themselves to the service of others. Basically this bill takes advantage of this new information. Again, the bill does utilizes the data base for broader, military purposes, but it is not solely a creation to that end.

In fact, the President would have a flexible say over the types of service which would be deemed acceptable to fulfill their national obligation. For example, the nonprofit agency, Americorps, has some intensive and very educational programs which many college students and recent college grads want to get into. They offer long-term (two year) programs, and pay a small living wage, and in many cases they offer college loan repayment benefits and some colleges double those benefits by including scholarship awards. Americorps trains people, and sends them where they are needed most – could be to a site like New Orleans after Katrina – and they did so, and still have a presence in the area helping the recovery effort.

Americorps is just one example. This is ‘civil service’ at its finest. The government gives grants to these organization and the organizations obtain funding from several other sources. This relieves the federal government from the massive expense of creating new programs to train, house, and pay people for the service they are providing. It also offers people the opportunity to learn a great deal, and to satisfy their desire to be part of a bigger community, to serve their countrymen, and to be involved and interactive as citizens.

So while there is a great deal of BOO HOOing this bill – there is much more to be considered than most have given thought to.

The bill is not a militaristic concept, though it is a method which would assist our government in recruitment efforts, should they be necessary.

So - msharmony, your daughters have much to gain from such a bill - given the President is in favor of non-profit types of civil service as fulfillment of the obligation.

There are even a great many Christian organizations similar to Americorps that may better serve the ideals of some members of our community. The idea is, of course, an extension of a nationalistic view (which I don't agree with) but in this case it serves to vastly broaden the horizons of American people who have enclosed themselves in 'American ideals'. And broadening that horizon is something I am in favor of because allows us to envision the global community as the biggest part of ourselves.

Many posters seem to the feel that this bill is militeristic - it is far more than that. It does expemt someone in college - read the bill.

Also, when military service is required by the government, the same concientious clauses fall into place. This bill is not a DRAFT, those who would qualify for military service (when it is needed) are not INDUCTED without concent from the obligatory ranks that this bill employs.

LOGIC must be employed here. It is not logical to 'assume' that the government can afford to obligate every able bodied citizen between the ages of 18 to 45 to militerist 'training' for the 'just in case' scenario. That would be extrememly redundant as we already have a volunteer military AND military reserve AND a Homeland Security force.

We could NOT POSSIBLY support that number of people in 'military' servic for small stints of two years. Employment of broader thought processes when reading this bill is necessary.

Before, all males between 18 and I think 35 had to be registered.
All have/had a 6 year obligation to serve if called upon or recalled to service.

I understand, this bill says 2 years but, we've all seen extensions added to troops who were scheduled to rotate.