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Topic: Say Bye-Bye, Dems ...
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Mon 07/19/10 06:30 AM
They've finally realized we were SERIOUS about not wanting all that 'Hopey - McChangey' crap they decided to pass despite knowing that 68% of the American public didn't want it, and they're starting to crap their pants. Good. Let 'em. The logical consequence of 'falling on one's sword' for a 'cause' is always political death. This is only the FIRST in the two-part disassembly of the Communist Revolution that occurred in 2008 and activated in 2009 ... the next part comes in 2012. Be afraid, DemoComs - be VERY afraid ...

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http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,2004646,00.html

Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In

By Mark Halperin Monday, Jul. 19, 2010

Under pressure, the Democrats are cracking. On both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue, there is a realization that Nancy Pelosi's hold on the speakership is in true jeopardy; that losing control of the Senate is not out of the question; and that time, once the Democrats' best friend, is now their mortal enemy. Since January, when Scott Brown won Ted Kennedy's Massachusetts Senate seat, the President's party has tried to downplay in public what its pollsters have been saying in private: that Obama's alienation of independents and white voters, along with the enthusiasm gap between the right and the left, means that Republicans are on a trajectory to pick up massive numbers of House and Senate seats, perhaps even to regain control of Congress.

Evidence of the pervasiveness of this view: Sunday's New York Times op-ed page, which featured a series of short essays from leading Democratic and Republican strategists about how Obama could go about staging a political comeback, focused not on November's midterms but on 2012 — an indication that Washington conventional wisdom has already written off prospects of Democrats sustaining a majority in the legislature.

Even if the midterms end the Democrats' one-party rule, the President may well believe that his accomplishments during his first two years in office were worth it. But it's a sure bet that the vanquished House Democrats who lose their jobs and their gavels won't share that assessment.

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Mon 07/19/10 10:38 AM

They've finally realized we were SERIOUS about not wanting all that 'Hopey - McChangey' crap they decided to pass despite knowing that 68% of the American public didn't want it, and they're starting to crap their pants. Good. Let 'em. The logical consequence of 'falling on one's sword' for a 'cause' is always political death. This is only the FIRST in the two-part disassembly of the Communist Revolution that occurred in 2008 and activated in 2009 ... the next part comes in 2012. Be afraid, DemoComs - be VERY afraid ...

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http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,2004646,00.html

Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In

By Mark Halperin Monday, Jul. 19, 2010

Under pressure, the Democrats are cracking. On both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue, there is a realization that Nancy Pelosi's hold on the speakership is in true jeopardy; that losing control of the Senate is not out of the question; and that time, once the Democrats' best friend, is now their mortal enemy. Since January, when Scott Brown won Ted Kennedy's Massachusetts Senate seat, the President's party has tried to downplay in public what its pollsters have been saying in private: that Obama's alienation of independents and white voters, along with the enthusiasm gap between the right and the left, means that Republicans are on a trajectory to pick up massive numbers of House and Senate seats, perhaps even to regain control of Congress.

Evidence of the pervasiveness of this view: Sunday's New York Times op-ed page, which featured a series of short essays from leading Democratic and Republican strategists about how Obama could go about staging a political comeback, focused not on November's midterms but on 2012 — an indication that Washington conventional wisdom has already written off prospects of Democrats sustaining a majority in the legislature.

Even if the midterms end the Democrats' one-party rule, the President may well believe that his accomplishments during his first two years in office were worth it. But it's a sure bet that the vanquished House Democrats who lose their jobs and their gavels won't share that assessment.



This is exactly what the cabal in the white house wants..

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Mon 07/19/10 11:14 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 07/19/10 11:17 AM

They've finally realized we were SERIOUS about not wanting all that 'Hopey - McChangey' crap they decided to pass despite knowing that 68% of the American public didn't want it, and they're starting to crap their pants. Good. Let 'em. The logical consequence of 'falling on one's sword' for a 'cause' is always political death. This is only the FIRST in the two-part disassembly of the Communist Revolution that occurred in 2008 and activated in 2009 ... the next part comes in 2012. Be afraid, DemoComs - be VERY afraid ...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,2004646,00.html

Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In

By Mark Halperin Monday, Jul. 19, 2010

Under pressure, the Democrats are cracking. On both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue, there is a realization that Nancy Pelosi's hold on the speakership is in true jeopardy; that losing control of the Senate is not out of the question; and that time, once the Democrats' best friend, is now their mortal enemy. Since January, when Scott Brown won Ted Kennedy's Massachusetts Senate seat, the President's party has tried to downplay in public what its pollsters have been saying in private: that Obama's alienation of independents and white voters, along with the enthusiasm gap between the right and the left, means that Republicans are on a trajectory to pick up massive numbers of House and Senate seats, perhaps even to regain control of Congress.

Evidence of the pervasiveness of this view: Sunday's New York Times op-ed page, which featured a series of short essays from leading Democratic and Republican strategists about how Obama could go about staging a political comeback, focused not on November's midterms but on 2012 — an indication that Washington conventional wisdom has already written off prospects of Democrats sustaining a majority in the legislature.

Even if the midterms end the Democrats' one-party rule, the President may well believe that his accomplishments during his first two years in office were worth it. But it's a sure bet that the vanquished House Democrats who lose their jobs and their gavels won't share that assessment.




And this is one of the things wrong in politics, people worry too much about which PARTY wins , and then we all lose, because in Government the parties arent supposed to be competing but working together. Want a conspiracy theory, here it goes,,,the government gets us to blame one half or the other, and we are still fighting FOR one half,,,which keeps the whole SYSTEM from being held accountable,,,,,,brilliant

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Mon 07/19/10 11:48 AM
If you think I give a rat's asss about the Republicans, you need to check yourself ... I despise both parties with equal passion 'cuz they've BOTH worked real hard to get us INTO this mess - but for different reasons. The ONLY credit I can give the 'pubs is that they're not Communists or Alinskyites - but they are weasel-y little bastids when it comes to living their principles ... time to clean house and dump the RINOs ... maybe THEN they can be trusted. The DemoComs ... ? Naah - no trust again - EVER. They've made it real plain which side they support, and its symbol is a hammer and sickle.

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Mon 07/19/10 11:50 AM
I can't imagine a life without hope and change. I assure you that more Americans dream of hope and change than can be added up in a selective poll.

"America is too great for small dreams."
- Ronald Regan

"What kind of nation we will be, what kind of world we will live in, whether we shape the future in the image of our hopes, is ours to determine by our actions and our choices."
- Richard Nixon

We have always held to the hope, the belief, the conviction that there is a better life, a better world, beyond the horizon.
- Franklin D. Roosevelt

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Mon 07/19/10 11:52 AM
Edited by Kings_Knight on Mon 07/19/10 11:53 AM

" ... I can't imagine a life without hope and change. I assure you that more Americans dream of hope and change than can be added up in a selective poll. ... "


I can imagine a much BETTER life IF 'hope' and 'change' are DEFINED before pulling the lever in the election booth. Pulling the lever for 'Hopey - McChangey' is a fool's game - as witness the current occupant of the White House. Define terms FIRST. Words. MEAN. Things. ... Elections. Have. Consequences.

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Mon 07/19/10 12:33 PM

I can't imagine a life without hope and change. I assure you that more Americans dream of hope and change than can be added up in a selective poll.

"America is too great for small dreams."
- Ronald Regan

"What kind of nation we will be, what kind of world we will live in, whether we shape the future in the image of our hopes, is ours to determine by our actions and our choices."
- Richard Nixon

We have always held to the hope, the belief, the conviction that there is a better life, a better world, beyond the horizon.
- Franklin D. Roosevelt



Interesting that you chose a quote from Regan. An interesting bit of trivia,,,did you know that at this point in his presidency his approval rating was at 42%,,,,similar path to OBama,,,,so I think you are on to something regarding dreams and hopes...

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Mon 07/19/10 12:46 PM


I can't imagine a life without hope and change. I assure you that more Americans dream of hope and change than can be added up in a selective poll.

"America is too great for small dreams."
- Ronald Regan

"What kind of nation we will be, what kind of world we will live in, whether we shape the future in the image of our hopes, is ours to determine by our actions and our choices."
- Richard Nixon

We have always held to the hope, the belief, the conviction that there is a better life, a better world, beyond the horizon.
- Franklin D. Roosevelt



Interesting that you chose a quote from Regan. An interesting bit of trivia,,,did you know that at this point in his presidency his approval rating was at 42%,,,,similar path to OBama,,,,so I think you are on to something regarding dreams and hopes...


You have pointed out on numerous occasions that it is partisan politics that gets in the way of any true progress and I agree. I was active in politics up until 2006 and quit because all that was ever discussed was how we were going to beat the others guys and jumped on every misquote or bad deed. Living in Canada, we do not have a good political system and our version of Congress is as ineffectual as in the US. The Democrats are very much like the Liberal party in Canada. They just never have their act together and eventually end up losing control of both houses like during the Clinton years. I never wanted to visit the political forums on Mingle but I am still a junkie and oddly still come in here.

I do hope to start some posts that talk about the how's and why's change is needed and have discussions on what can be done as opposed to why everything sucks. Government needs to start governing and stop the constant campaigning and bickering. Before we talk about smaller gov't we need to know what effectual gov't is first.

I got to go, I was recently "downsized" and need to send out a few more resumes.
As I said before, I like the way you think msharmony...keep up the good fight.

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Mon 07/19/10 12:48 PM



I can't imagine a life without hope and change. I assure you that more Americans dream of hope and change than can be added up in a selective poll.

"America is too great for small dreams."
- Ronald Regan

"What kind of nation we will be, what kind of world we will live in, whether we shape the future in the image of our hopes, is ours to determine by our actions and our choices."
- Richard Nixon

We have always held to the hope, the belief, the conviction that there is a better life, a better world, beyond the horizon.
- Franklin D. Roosevelt



Interesting that you chose a quote from Regan. An interesting bit of trivia,,,did you know that at this point in his presidency his approval rating was at 42%,,,,similar path to OBama,,,,so I think you are on to something regarding dreams and hopes...


You have pointed out on numerous occasions that it is partisan politics that gets in the way of any true progress and I agree. I was active in politics up until 2006 and quit because all that was ever discussed was how we were going to beat the others guys and jumped on every misquote or bad deed. Living in Canada, we do not have a good political system and our version of Congress is as ineffectual as in the US. The Democrats are very much like the Liberal party in Canada. They just never have their act together and eventually end up losing control of both houses like during the Clinton years. I never wanted to visit the political forums on Mingle but I am still a junkie and oddly still come in here.

I do hope to start some posts that talk about the how's and why's change is needed and have discussions on what can be done as opposed to why everything sucks. Government needs to start governing and stop the constant campaigning and bickering. Before we talk about smaller gov't we need to know what effectual gov't is first.

I got to go, I was recently "downsized" and need to send out a few more resumes.
As I said before, I like the way you think msharmony...keep up the good fight.



thanx, and good luck,,

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Mon 07/19/10 02:13 PM
I think the media just has become bored and needs to have a "shocking" news story.

The dems are not going to fair as badly as people are hoping.

The only places where the dems will lose will be places where people are already predisposed to believing the false rhetoric coming from the fringe including the tea party.

People who know that the recession is not the Dems fault and the recovery from recession takes time and is slow. People who can look at all that Obama and the Dems have been attempting to do and see that they have this countries best interest at heart.

There are lots of people who can see through the false rhetoric of the tea party and all the right wing fanatics who have done nothing but sling mud at this administration since the inauguration.

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Mon 07/19/10 02:29 PM
Either way it takes approximately 12 years to feel a negative or positive count back 12 count forward twelve to future still doesnt matter as long as the fight keeps going nothing will happen and sometimes the chacks and balances save us from many things getting through.....thats the upside the down side is everyone is afraid to change it but I think it should be even more party mixed and represtened of independent through Libertarian sound decisions not teams....

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Mon 07/19/10 02:57 PM
This gridlock is exactly what Thomas Jefferson predicted once a massive centralized government was established.

That is why the tenth amendment was added to the constitution.

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Mon 07/19/10 03:10 PM



Before we talk about smaller gov't we need to know what effectual gov't is first.



True, but Henry Hazlitt already covered this in his book "Why Government Doesn't Work. glasses drinker

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Mon 07/19/10 03:53 PM
Edited by chris_pc on Mon 07/19/10 03:54 PM




Before we talk about smaller gov't we need to know what effectual gov't is first.



True, but Henry Hazlitt already covered this in his book "Why Government Doesn't Work. glasses drinker


I think you mean Harry Browne 1st edition 1995? Thanks, I just downloaded it and it will be next on my list to read.
I also downloaded a Harry Hazlitt publication, title below, which is another I keep meaning to read but never got around to yet.

"The Failure of the 'New Economics': An Analysis of the Keynesian Fallacies, 1959"

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Mon 07/19/10 03:55 PM
democrats, rebublicans, ... whats going to change no matter who's in?

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Mon 07/19/10 04:03 PM

democrats, rebublicans, ... whats going to change no matter who's in?


True and as long as Clinton democrats have power within the Obama administration, it will be more of the same. Or Bu$h's third term as referenced in an article today titled:
Triangulation or Strangulation? Does Obama + Clintonistas = Bush III?


http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/robert-becker/30176/triangulation-or-strangulation-does-obama-clintonistas-bush-iii

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Mon 07/19/10 04:04 PM
I preferred things under Clinton,,,,,but as I say one hundred times,, things dont change because of one party or one person,, there are MANY people involved in the political process of government.

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Mon 07/19/10 04:13 PM


democrats, rebublicans, ... whats going to change no matter who's in?


True and as long as Clinton democrats have power within the Obama administration, it will be more of the same. Or Bu$h's third term as referenced in an article today titled:
Triangulation or Strangulation? Does Obama + Clintonistas = Bush III?


http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/robert-becker/30176/triangulation-or-strangulation-does-obama-clintonistas-bush-iii


It took 18 months before the hardcore left finally figured this out?

WOW....

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Mon 07/19/10 04:19 PM
The hardcore left doesn't like Obama all that much.


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Mon 07/19/10 04:20 PM

The hardcore left doesn't like Obama all that much.




I know...

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