Shot a man who was resisting arrest who was reaching into a pocket who just started a fight, possibly gang related and that's why the cops showed up.

anytime thier is a possiblity of stopping your heart it is a lethal weapon. Tazers should be in that catagory. or let parents control thier teenage kids with them. huh

That makes a 110VAC wall outlet and a fork a lethal weapon, too ...

The cop that killed the kid in Oakland shot him in the temple with his pistol. Even if he had actually used the taser, he'd of still killed him with a shot like that to the brain.

The difference is that there is a completely different set of rules applied when the Gestapo that we masquerade as a policing force actually kills someone. It is still applied when one cop kills another.

Case in point. Brown County Kansas. A deputy sheriff kills not one, but two police dogs (in separate incidents) by leaving them in a closed police cruiser, without air, on hundred degree days. Not only is this officer not suspended or fired, he is not charged with the death of these two police officers. Considering that if any civilian were to kill a police dog, they would be doing 25 to life (for killing a cop regardless of "breed"), this man got away with murder, twice.

The double standard is ridiculous and police should be held accountable for their actions, especially given that any civilian isn't even allowed to defend themselves against a police attack - even when police force isn't justified. This puts cops "above the law" and it is backed by the courts and DA's offices universally. Police should be held to a higher standard than civilians, not a lower one and deadly force should have to be proven necessary beyond a reasonable doubt, not just because it's part of the job.

kind of like the lady in flordia that was tasered 2 times for not getting off her cell phone... she was scared and talking with her husband and the cop told her to put it down, and when she kept talking, the cop tasered, and then again while she was on the ground...
all for a speeding ticket. 2 separate deaths here in houston, one man died while being tasered in a puddle of water, another fell when hit, and hit his head on a rock...

i agree, the double standard is not right. cops can get away with anything they want... there is very little "policing" the police.

No it wouldn't have killed him. There have been shots to the eyes with tasers and it never killed the subject.

Just wondering have you ever had to subdue someone? Let me tell you I have and when it goes south sometimes 4 or 5 isn't always enough.

One of my first stops oout of training I had a guy with 4 bottles of liquor, a huge prime rib and a bag of bell peppers concealed into his shirt(the shirt was tucked into his waistband of his pants). He was a small guy looked to be in his fourties. When I stopped him and went to put him in a wrist lock I got thrown about 4 feet. Luckily the grocery manager, produce manager and the store director saw me go out. The produce manager and Grocerymanager are both huge. One grabed one arm and one grabbed the other, at the same time he launched them about 3 feet. During that I got on the guys back and put him in a headlock and was trying to choke him out. By standers said it looked like I was riding a damn bull. When the other two managers got back up and got there they helped get him to the ground and we still couldnt get his hands behind his back. There were three of us on his body and the store director holding his legs.

I had to choke the sob out to get him cuffed. Needless to say all the bottles got broken when we slammed him and the meat and peppers splattered and went fricking everywhere. When he came to we had him cuffed laying face down on the sidewalk. I had him in a pair of hinged cuffs. He immediately tried to fight again and cut his wrists down to the bone trying to break out of the cuffs and he snapped one of the hinges. We had to hold him with 4 people sitting on him on the ground until the police showed up.

I can only imagine a cop being in that situation and going for his taser and in the confusion grabbing the wrong weapon. When that much $hit is going down it is easy to make mistakes.

No they can't, haven't you ever heard of IAB or Internal affairs? Then on top of it the State Police usually investigates or the state bureau of investigation. There is very little they get away with.

I completely agree. This is one of the more important paragraphs I've read on mingle2. The level of police violence against citizens that is tolerated is absolutely wrong. We should do more to clean up our police force - more police should be fired, suspended, and charged with crimes. We should do this not just for the sake of the citizenry, but also for the good police officers who suffer the consequences of hatred and mistrust towards the police force as a whole.

Not a weapon, as its not at all practical to use it aggressively against another.

A lethal trap, possibly - and anyone who tells a naive and ignorant child to stick a fork in a socket should be charged.

Goodness! When you say 'you can shoot', do you mean 'its accepted by police policies'? How horrible.

If you watch the video, it would appear from the body language of the other officers that they were surprised by the shooting and did not agree that it was an appropriate response.



If this is really true, then the rioters have done more to bring about justice than the legal system.

But I don't believe its true, not in the least. The protesters believed that the cop lied about mistaking his gun for a taser - to appease them, he sentence would be heavier.




The oversight of the cops does restrain some of the murderous tendencies of some of our cops, but they don't do enough.

the first difference is you and the others were not TRAINED police officers

the second difference is noone felt the need to SHOOT the person in quetsion

thats kind of like saying few rapists get away with rape

many victims believe the police are above the law and dont want to go through the FORMAL complaint process and many others are just scared of retaliation of harassment..

then there is always the 'cops' word against 'civilians' word and the thin blue line occasions where cops simply back each other up in their lies,,,


there are MANY of them who do get away with plenty of BS,,,IAB or not

there has not been ONE unjustified police shooting since I have been in Nevada,,and they have shot several people,,,they ALWAYS get cleared , regardless the circumstances

When, where and what department?

I'm starting to suspect you haven't seen the video. It may be true that in your situation, it would be understandable for someone to grab the wrong weapon. In the Oakland shooting situation, its not at all understandable. I'm not saying I disbelieve the officer, but anyone who is so careless as to mistake one weapon for the other under the more controlled circumstance shown in the video should not be on the streets.

It isn't just maliciousness, dishonesty, and disregard for peoples lives which makes some police officers dangerous to our citizenry - it is also incompetence.

Dangerously incompetent officers should not be given the chance to accidentally kill people. The same thing applies to air traffic control, surgeons, even roller coaster mechanics. This is not a judgement against that person: hes probably a better cop than I'd ever be, but still not good enough to be given a gun.

there were nine fatal shootings in 2005 alone,,,just put justified police shoootings Nevada, in your favorite search engine and you will find plenty more,,,,, I have been here since 2005, I dont feel like looking up numbers for each year,,,,

So true!



I have first hand experience of this. Fortunately there are honest police officers, too.



This has been my experience, too - in virginia and in san diego. It almost makes me wish our populace was more inclined to riot - put some pressure on the police to clean up their bad apples.

Your right, I haven't seen the video, I wasn't able to find it. You are also right that a cop that screws up that bad shouldn't be on the streets. But I would have to see the video to really give my opinion.

Do I think he should be criminally tried? Hell no.

there's at least 2-3 a month just by the sheriffs alone here in houston.. they shoot first, ask questions later... and i can't remember any police going to jail for any of them.