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Spider are you now saying that adoni is not a word for the lord god? |
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Spider are you now saying that adoni is not a word for the lord god? Not at all, Adonai is one of God's many names. I was trying to clarify for you that Adonai doesn't mean The Earth God™. It is a declaration of God's rulership over all rulers on the earth. LORD of Hosts (Lords). |
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Thats only because you do not take the bible literly. I think it is very clear from your info that there are two gods one rules Heaven One rules earth. They were so intertwined into this book that they couldn't just get rid of one so they changed history. |
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Spider
Adonai is not a name. It is like master. satan can be adonai. Like satan is the g-d of this world. Yahweh does not have many names. Do you? Why people want to fight Yahweh's commandment which in my opinion is the unpardonable sin that Yahshua spoke of. Read the 3rd commandment closely. Something in it is very distint from all the others. Yahweh's names that you refer to the tyranslaters left out. Those names you speak of are attributes to his name. Like Yahshalom,Yahzikkenu (Yahweh our Rightousness. read what Yahshua is called when he comes back.Yahshua or Yahwehshua ( Yahweh saves) These are very real if you choose to continue breaking the 3rd commandment as it means nothing. Then I guess you can tell him anouther day.. Blessings..Miles |
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Does anyone else back this theory up miles (about adoni) or is it just yours? |
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No it is fact. no scholar will deny what i have said..Blessings..Miles
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Maybe the chioces are not that simple and one might need God for guidence in making that choice.
I do not think in order to know God I have to learn Hebrew Greek or any other language than my own. I know God by the way he reveals himself to me,,,, end of fire 
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You are right you do not need to learn hebrew or Greek. The names are names. Names do not translate from one language to anouther. Words do. If your name is james dean in the USA your name will sound the same in Russia, Mexico France or anywhere you go. Yahweh says his knowledge is higher than ours. Why not believe his word instead of mans traditions..Blessings..Miles
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No it is fact. no scholar will deny what i have said..Blessings..Miles http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_of_G-d/Adonai/adonai.html Hebrew Names of God... http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/name.html The Names of God I have often heard Christian sources refer to the Judeo-Christian God as "the nameless God" to contrast our God with the ancient pagan gods. I always found this odd, because Judaism clearly recognizes the existence of a Name for God; in fact, we have many Names for God. The most important of God's Names is the four-letter Name represented by the Hebrew letters Yod-Heh-Vav-Heh (YHVH). It is often referred to as the Ineffable Name, the Unutterable Name or the Distinctive Name. Linguistically, it is related to the Hebrew root Heh-Yod-Heh (to be), and reflects the fact that God's existence is eternal. In scripture, this Name is used when discussing God's relation with human beings, and when emphasizing his qualities of lovingkindness and mercy. It is frequently shortened to Yah (Yod-Heh), Yahu or Yeho (Yod-Heh-Vav), especially when used in combination with names or phrases, as in Yehoshua (Joshua, meaning "the Lord is my Salvation"), Eliyahu (Elijah, meaning "my God is the Lord"), and Halleluyah ("praise the Lord"). The first Name used for God in scripture is Elohim. In form, the word is a masculine plural of a word that looks feminine in the singular (Eloha). The same word (or, according to Maimonides, a homonym of it) is used to refer to princes, judges, other gods, and other powerful beings. This Name is used in scripture when emphasizing God's might, His creative power, and his attributes of justice and rulership. Variations on this name include El, Eloha, Elohai (my God) and Elohaynu (our God). God is also known as El Shaddai. This Name is usually translated as "God Almighty," however, the derivation of the word "Shaddai" is not known. According to some views, it is derived from the root meaning "to heap benefits." According a Midrash, it means, "The One who said 'dai'" ("dai" meaning enough or sufficient) and comes from the fact that when God created the universe, it expanded until He said "DAI!" (perhaps the first recorded theory of an expanding universe?). The name Shaddai is the one written on the mezuzah scroll. Some note that Shaddai is an acronym of Shomer Daltot Yisrael, Guardian of the Doors of Israel. Another significant Name of God is YHVH Tzva'ot. This Name is normally translated as "Lord of Hosts." The word "tzva'ot" means "hosts" in the sense of a military grouping or an organized array. The Name refers to God's leadership and sovereignty. Interestingly, this Name is rarely used in scripture. It never appears in the Torah(i.e., the first five books). It appears primarily in the prophetic books of Isaiah, Jeremiah, Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi, as well as many times in the Psalms. Christian and Jewish sources disagree with you. Adonai (Hebrew meaning "lord, ruler") is a name bestowed upon God in the Old Testament. It is retained in the Vulgate and its dependent versions, Exod., vi, 3; Judith, xvi, 16. No other name applied to God is more definite and more easily understood than this. Etymologically it is the plural of Adon, with the suffix of the possessive pronoun, first person, singular number. This plural has been subjected to various explanations. It may be looked upon as a plurale abstractum, and as such it would indicate the fullness of divine sway and point to God as the Lord of lords. This explanation has the endorsement of Hebrew grammarians, who distinguish a plurale virium, or virtutum. Others prefer to designate this form as plurale excellentiæ, magnitudinis, or plurale majestatis. To look upon it as a form of politeness such as the German Sie for du, or French volts for to is certainly not warranted by Hebrew usage. The possessive pronoun has no more significance in this word than it has in Rabbi (my master), Monsieur, or Madonna. Adonai is also the perpetual substitute for the ineffable Name Yahve, to which it lends its vowel signs. Whenever therefore, the word Yahve occurs in the text, the Jew will read Adonai. The above also disagrees with you. The thought that an all-powerful, all-knowing, all-seeing God could have a simple name...that's just silly. Jesus' name is "wonderful", which means it is unknowable. If Jesus' name is unknowable, why assume that the Father's name is knowable? |
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Which one is Adoni? Elohim or Elsahdi? |
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Spider
I wonder who wrote that. Someone with tradition engraved in bthier mind? Just look at this quote from your scholars (?) The first Name ( here spider they say name) used for God in scripture is Elohim. In form, the word ( now spider it becames a word. WHICH IS IT?) is a masculine plural of a word that looks feminine in the singular (Eloha). The same word (or, according to Maimonides, a homonym of it) is used to refer to princes, judges, other gods, ( now His name can refer to other DIETIES) and other powerful beings. This Name ( now it is a NAME again) is used in scripture when emphasizing God's might, His creative power, and his attributes of justice and rulership. Variations on this name include El, Eloha, Elohai (my God) and Elohaynu (our God Spider if your name was John would you be pleased with your friends call out for you say her PIG, Here Pig? Would you? Those are lying pens of the scribes that is prophesied. Blessings...Miles |
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The first Name used for God in scripture is Elohim. In form, the word is a masculine plural of a word that looks feminine in the singular (Eloha). The same word (or, according to Maimonides, a homonym of it) is used to refer to princes, judges, other gods, and other powerful beings. This Name is used in scripture when emphasizing God's might, His creative power, and his attributes of justice and rulership. Variations on this name include El, Eloha, Elohai (my God) and Elohaynu (our God). Notice the word "first", that means that there is more than one. Sorry dude, you are wrong. God has more than one name. Saying YVWH isn't going to get you to heaven, only the blood of Jesus can do that. |
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Spider do you believe this or not?
Ex 20:2-7 2 "I am Yahweh your Elohim, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 3 "You shall have no other mighty ones before me. 4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, Yahweh your Elohim, am a jealous Elohim, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand [ generations] of those who love me and keep my commandments. 7 "You shall not misuse the name of Yahweh your Elohim, for Yahweh will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name. NIV Now is Yahweh your Yahweh or Yahweh your Elohim? Should be self explanitory Spider.. Blessings..Miles |
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Edited by
Spidercmb
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Fri 12/07/07 11:05 AM
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Spider do you believe this or not? Ex 20:2-7 2 "I am Yahweh your Elohim, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 3 "You shall have no other mighty ones before me. 4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, Yahweh your Elohim, am a jealous Elohim, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand [ generations] of those who love me and keep my commandments. 7 "You shall not misuse the name of Yahweh your Elohim, for Yahweh will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name. NIV Now is Yahweh your Yahweh or Yahweh your Elohim? Should be self explanitory Spider.. Blessings..Miles Elohim means "gods". As we see clearly in the Gospel of John and other New Testament writing, Jesus is God. Father, Son and Holy Spirit are God. Therefore, the only God to be worshipped is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. This verse shows God and Jesus both speaking and they say "I am the last; and beside me there is no God." Read that scripture, there is clearly two beings "LORD the King of Israel" and "his redeemer the LORD of hosts", but the scripture doesn't say "we" and "us". No, it says "I" and "we". Also notice that they are both called YVWH. They are BOTH YVWH, not just the Father. This verse makes the verse you quoted perfectly clear. The Father and Son share ONE spirit. We each have our own spirit, but they share one perfect spirit, the Holy Spirit. Thus we have a trinity, three minds, but ONE spirit joining them. Think of an egg, there is the white, the yolk and the shell that unites them. All three peices are what makes an egg. In the same way, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are God. |
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Which one is Adoni? Elohim or Elsahdi? |
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one in unity like your marraige is hopefully..miles
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you mean in the bible where ever they put adoni the original could have been either name? |
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rabbit here is some of the hebrew. Notice that Yahweh's name in in the 2nd one..shalom...Miles
'adown OT:113 /oda* 'adown (aw-done'); or (shortened) 'adon (aw-done'); from an unused root (meaning to rule); sovereign, i.e. controller (human or divine): KJV - lord, master, owner. Compare also names beginning with "Adoni-". (Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.) 'Adoniyah OT:138 hY*n!d)a& 'Adoniyah (ad-o-nee-yaw'); original (prolonged) 'Adoniyahuw (ad-o-nee- yaw'-hoo); from OT:113 and OT:3050; lord (i.e. worshipper) of Jah; Adonijah, the name of three Israelites: (Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.) |
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Edited by
Milesoftheusa
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Fri 12/07/07 12:11 PM
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Here is alittle more it refers to at the end. Notice it is Yah then as they continue with tradition change it to jah covering up the name in our bibles..Blessings...Miles
OT:3050 OT:3050 Hy* Yahh (yaw); contraction for OT:3068, and meaning the same; Jah, the sacred name: KJV - Jah, the Lord, most vehement. Compare names in "-iah," "-jah." (Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.) |
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when there is only one, the name does not matter.
there, i said it again. just say "the one" for example. this was understood even in antiquity. |
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