The Earth...its size is perfect. The Earth's size and corresponding gravity holds a thin layer of mostly nitrogen and oxygen gases, only extending about 50 miles above the Earth's surface. If Earth were smaller, an atmosphere would be impossible, like the planet Mercury. If Earth were larger, its atmosphere would contain free hydrogen, like Jupiter.3 Earth is the only known planet equipped with an atmosphere of the right mixture of gases to sustain plant, animal and human life.

existence of GodThe Earth is located the right distance from the sun. Consider the temperature swings we encounter, roughly -30 degrees to +120 degrees. If the Earth were any further away from the sun, we would all freeze. Any closer and we would burn up. Even a fractional variance in the Earth's position to the sun would make life on Earth impossible. The Earth remains this perfect distance from the sun while it rotates around the sun at a speed of nearly 67,000 mph. It is also rotating on its axis, allowing the entire surface of the Earth to be properly warmed and cooled every day.

And our moon is the perfect size and distance from the Earth for its gravitational pull. The moon creates important ocean tides and movement so ocean waters do not stagnate, and yet our massive oceans are restrained from spilling over across the continents.
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The eye...can distinguish among seven million colors. It has automatic focusing and handles an astounding 1.5 million messages -- simultaneously.8 Evolution focuses on mutations and changes from and within existing organisms. Yet evolution alone does not fully explain the initial source of the eye or the brain -- the start of living organisms from nonliving matter

Very cool and intresting to know...wow.

It's just amazing to know how exactly complex the human body is. Strange that some people think this kind of thing could be made by accident, eg., big bang theory or something of such.

It's sad that some people still attribute such things to a godthing.

What that's stranger than believing one "God" is fighting with a fallen "minion" for domination of the souls of the beings of just one planet? Oh yeah, and the "God" is apparently losing the battle at that.

Yeah, that's not strange at all either.

God is loosing at nothing, it was done prophesied many years ago that the world would just keep going down hill.

so going by your logic...God also couldn't have existed by accident..that someone or something else had to have created him

God didn't come into existence though, God has always been and always will be.

why do religious people have an answer for everything? and it's usually the same answer... god... if everyone in history thought that god was the answer to everything, there would be no scientists, and we would still be living in caves with no sense of even trying to figure things out. no cars, no tv's, no nothing. we would still be waiting for god to give it to us.

This argument for the existence of God is as old as any.

It basically goes like this:

Life exists. Life is a miracle. Therefore it must have been created by a supernatural being.

The problem is that the very same line of thinking must necessarily be applied to the supernatural being as follows:

A supernatural being exists. A supernatural being is a miracle. Therefore it must have been created by a super-supernatural being.

The problem with stopping with the supernatural being and claiming "The Buck Stops Here" is that there is no logical reason for that conclusion. It's just as logical to accept the life itself is the only "miracle". Not need to make up an imagined character that doesn't truly even solve the problem.

In fact, if we're going to accept religious views, then which of the following should we accept?

The Eastern Mystic View

Yes, life is indeed miraculous and must ultimately be supernatural, therefore we must ultimately be this supernatual being experiencing this dream we percieve as life.

Or:

The Christian View

Life is miraculous, therefore the egotistical jealous judgemental male-chauvinistic godhead that the Hebrews created in their mythology must be the correct view of the creator of life. Also, never mind that this totally inept godhead is at the mercy of a demonic fallen angel to the point where he had to desperately have his own son nailed to a pole to save a mere few human souls. The fact that this God loses the vast majority of souls that he creates should not be taken to mean that this God is a loser! Also, never mind that this whole religion is based on scriptures and fables that have become the basis of many differnet religious views and beliefs, most of which do not even accept the idea of God having his son nailed to a pole. Oh, and by the way, don't believe that Eastern Mystic crap either! Our creator is a jealous egotistical pig who lusts to be the King of Kings and Lord of Lords over what's left of his pathetic creation after his fallen demonic angel has won the vast majority of souls that he had created. Repent now! Or you'll be cast into the lot of lost souls!

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense alright.

I think I'll go with Eastern Mysticism, it seems a lot more straightforward. Tat t'vam asi.

in that case...perhaps the universe always been ....you are contradicting your own concept...you are trying to claim that nothing complex can be created without a creator but then want to claim that it doesn't apply to everything

The universe may have always been. We have no knowledge of any time frame for the universe. And how is the contradicting my own concept? God has ALWAYS been, there was no beginning for him.

Tell me, if god isn't losing to a subordinate, why are the descriptions of hell showing it packed with souls while the description of heaven is of an empty ghost town.

The whole story of Job, is like a bad side bet between the two, though while god won that one, I'd say Job was the loser. I'm sure the tempter was laughing mightly when he "lost" that one. Yeah a god that does nothing while his worshipers are tortured for life, I can see why you follow him. The benefits are fantastic. Heck you get the exact same rewards as the guy doesn't worship at all.

I dont think this is something most non believers will grasp, as it seems some only accept what their MORTAL knowledge can explain,,and anything else is not possible,,,

The humans love meunconditionally and give me offerings. I MUST be God!

-The Cat

Heh

Truly. I love it!

Such impecable logic! How could it not be true?

if perhaps the Universe like God has "always been" and wasn't created...then that would mean that complex things sure as Man can exist or come into existence without a creator ....

Ah u make me smile. Knowing the kind of work u at least did do and where u r cominng from with your disdain for so many lies that r just excepted as truth.

But then i turn and look at the sky, sun and moon and see so much truth in this article that noones mind can wrap around the possibility of all that being a happenstance.

Oh well no different that when i skip a rock it finally sinks.


These space being with all thier technology though probally told man about his planet in words he could understand.

Job 26:7-10
7 He stretches out the north over empty space;
He hangs the earth on nothing.
8 He binds up the water in His thick clouds,
Yet the clouds are not broken under it.
9 He covers the face of His throne,
And spreads His cloud over it.
10 He drew a circular horizon on the face of the waters,
At the boundary of light and darkness.
NKJV


now I wonder what man says about what holds the earth in every way?

Here is a very good question for all the so called humans can figure that out eventually people. That no man in the sky will fool me..haha.

Verse 8 above.

8 He binds up the water in His thick clouds,
Yet the clouds are not broken under it

Scientifically what does this mean. Explain this possibility to me.

So here is a little trivia question that can be explained very easily I am sure.. No man in the Sky did this or for that fact thought about this and had us write it down in such easy yet complex terms..

http://faculty.ccc.edu/aberger/Weight%20of%20Water%20per%20Acre%20from%20One%20Inch%20of%20Rain.htm


Water is an integral part of living systems and is essential for plant and animal life. Water in the form of precipitation is unevenly distributed over the land. Each inch of rain is relatively heavy. One inch of rain on a square foot of land weighs 5.20 pounds. One inch of rain on one acre of land weighs 113.31 tons.



so a city like Nashville Tn. Since we all heard of the flooding that went on thier this year.

thier is 526 square miles of land/buildings/water/lakes in the city limits.

526 sq miles thats alot.

as a farm raised chaild I know thier are 640 acres in 1 sq mile.


so if thier is 526 sq miles in Nashville as our friendly wikipedia says thier is.


then 526 x 640 since both are in square miles will equal=== 336,640 acres of land.


Now we are getting somewhere getting ready for the real calculations which i will round down for this example.


336,640 acres x 113 tons ( the appr. equilivant of 1 inch of water on 1 acre of land.

so to make this easier to see i will go on ahead and turn 113 tons to lbs = 226,000 lbs of water from 1 inch of rainfall from the clouds now on 1 acre of land.

so we have 336,640 acres x 226,000 lbs per acre for 1 inch of rainfall.


336,640 x 226,000 = drums rolling eyes staring a whopping......

76,080,640,000 pounds of water over the city of Nashville sitting thier in the clouds waiting to fall and this is for just 1 inch of water.

WOW 76 Billion.. Help we need a Bail out Help.. Obama Help.. Just kidd'in

Wow I wonder how that all works that much wieght in the sky.

The sky is Falling The Sky is Falling..

Pretty close to the truth I guess the sky is falling.


What did Yahweh have Job say again. Or was Job that smart?

Job 26:7-10
7 He stretches out the north over empty space;
He hangs the earth on nothing.
8 He binds up the water in His THICK clouds, ( REALLY THICK)
Yet the clouds are not broken under it. ( THE SKY IS FALLING)
9 He covers the face of His throne,
And spreads His cloud over it.
10 He drew a circular horizon on the face of the waters,
At the boundary of light and darkness.
NKJV

Blessings of Shalom...Miles

it's just that non-believers do not use the concept of faith to play like things are true